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Apple Says 250,000 iPhones Sold to Unlockers
Hugh Pickens writes "Timothy D. Cook, Chief Operating Officer at Apple, disclosed during Apple's conference call to discuss their fourth quarter earnings that they estimate 250,000 of the 1.4 Million iPhones that have been sold were bought by people intending to unlock the phone. 'The elasticity in demand with the price drop] enabled us to far surpass our expectation of hitting around a million units cumulatively by the end of the quarter. Some number of these were sold to people that have an intention to unlock and [while] we don't know precisely how many people are doing that, our current guess is there is probably 250,000 of the 1.4 million that we sold where people had bought them with the intention of doing that. Many of those happened after the price cut.' Apple knows how many iPhones have been sold and how many have been activated with ATT. The difference is the number that are unlocked."
Based on apple's revenue recognition, and deferred revenue balances, it looks like AT&T did. Apple got about 108 million in revenue from sales of 1.1 million iPhones this quarter. That's an average of about $100/phone. However their iPhone related defferred revenue increased by about $300/mo. Meaning AT&T pays for the phones each month subscribers stay with them. No subscription=no payment.
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17.857% of the market is willing to brick their phones
Once the web browser on the iPhone can support shockwave, flash, and javascript, I will be interested.
As it stands a lot of the sites that I visit won't work on the iPhone, because of that lack of support.
I bought the iPhone the day it came out thinking I'd have the same reaction ("it's just a phone"). I then immediately took it on a multi-week vacation and used it every day. I found some features invaluable.
* The "real" web browser can be a lifesaver. I was able to conduct business as usual, accessing OWA, using PayPal, etc. No Blackberry-ized web.
* "Real" email is also a plus. Getting PDF attachments and actually seeing them rendered as they're supposed to be rendered helps.
* Visual voicemail was a great benefit on vacation. When you have 10-12 messages to go through, a day, seeing exactly who sent what and picking/choosing was a godsend.
* Video plays very well on it, and was a great benefit on 8-hour plane flights.
* Even "just as a phone", there's a number of features that it just does better than other phones. I never could recall, for example, the key combination to do 3-way calling on my Blackberry. On the iPhone it was just a couple of button presses.
It's still not perfect. If you receive a large attachment (e.g. a 1 MB+ JPG) it can error. I've seen the web browser crash a few times while playing music. Also, the screen is a fingerprint magnet.
That said, the same people complaining "What's so good about an iPhone?" are likely the same that complained years ago "What's so good about carrying around a cell phone?" Until you have one, using it every day, you don't realize how good beneficial it can be.
I can only hope that other manufacturers copy the design well enough that someone else can release a model at a lower price.
Completely agree. Set aside how thin it is and the screen, the UI is amazing. From a product development standpoint, it's an amazing piece of user functionality (or human interface whatevertheycallit). It's fast, easy access to all of the different types of information on the phone. (Yeah, this sounds like fanboy crap, but I got to play around with one last week and I understood how to use it pretty much instantly. That's not the case with a lot of phones, where you have to dig through menus to get to features.)
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Your math is off by a factor of ten: $.03 * 1000 = $30.
Actually, the word "vacation" comes from the Latin phrase translated as "vacant days". These "vacant days" were the days that weren't "holy days", from which we get the word "holiday". So "vacation" is actually supposed to be a work day, not a holiday. Sorry, but the Brits have this one right for a change.
Just for reference, the Romans had almost 180 "holy days" each year, making for about a 50/50 split between work and days off. Again, we workaholic Americans have it all wrong.
Welcome to what Smartphone and Pocket PC owners have been enjoying for over 5 years, plus quite a bit more since there are over 3000 games, 5000 applications, GPS, and 100's of devices which support the windows mobile platform.
Sure the WM platform has its problems, it just amazes me people are stunned when can use a web browser, read PDF, and view video on a phone when it has been around for so long, and oh yeah, you can get a better equiped Smartphone for about $200 less than an iPhone, and most of them are already unlocked.
* The "real" web browser can be a lifesaver. I was able to conduct business as usual, accessing OWA, using PayPal, etc. No Blackberry-ized web.
* "Real" email is also a plus. Getting PDF attachments and actually seeing them rendered as they're supposed to be rendered helps.
Yes, like Symbian and Windows Mobile phones have had for many years.
I can only hope that other manufacturers copy the design well enough that someone else can release a model at a lower price.
I hope nobody copies the iPhone; it's a big step backwards compared to modern cell phones. What I hope they copy is the iPhone style, look, and screen.
So tell me what you think what have transpired had Apple simply sold the iPhone already unlocked right from the start without having any contract with any provider at all? Do you think cell carriers would have turned down the signups they get? You can buy imported unlocked phones now and signup with a carrier. How many more iPhones would have sold had it
Traditionally, locked phones are sold by the carrier at a deep discount, or in some cases given away, with cost recovery through term service as the lockin justification. If I get a phone from party A, I pay party A for it, whether that be all at once now, or through a time payment plan, or some combination of that. But with the iPhone we have a case of party A selling phones that require service from party B. I don't know where any anti-trust laws prohibit that now, but IMHO they ought to (so that means if they don't, I favor changing them so they do).
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The word vacation comes from the Latin vacationem, which means "free from work" or "at leisure." It indicates a day off from work. The word "holiday" does not have a latin root, so your statement about the Romans' use of the word is meaningless.
As far as whether the British use of the word holiday versus the American use goes, neither is right or wrong. They're just different dialects.
Battery life has been great for me so far. On the odd week where I don't use the iPod features much, the phone goes for 3-4 days on standby, which is on par with the phone I had previously, though certainly not long lasting phone by any stretch.
I've also had hour-long calls with the SO, and there's no noticeable hit to the battery for that - so I'm convinced the talking power on a full charge is pretty high, though I've certainly never pushed it to the limit (even whilst having 2 hour calls, I'm pretty impressed).
Listening to the iPod all day at work, along with standing by on phone functionality, generally necessitates a recharge every two days, though I also use it a lot as a general surfing tool while out, so YMMV.
The iPhone charges through USB cable - there are quite a few USB-batteries on the market these days (one showed up on Engadget yesterday that I'm keenly interested in), so if you want a backup for the road those will do just fine.
And the "plug charger" that it comes with is really just a standard Apple charger with a USB power output, which is great, since anything that charges via USB (which is a lot of stuff these days) will just work with it :D
And the uber-bonus is that the charger is standard Apple, meaning the plug detaches and can be swapped out for a longer extension, if you need the length or just don't want the brick to take up space on your wall!
Try again:
Vacationem: "leisure, as being free from duty."
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* "Real" email is also a plus. Getting PDF attachments and actually seeing them rendered as they're supposed to be rendered helps.
Yes, like Symbian and Windows Mobile phones have had for many years.
You mean like Symbian and Windows Mobile phones have been trying to do for many years. I've had a Series60 phone and a Windows Mobile phone, and neither could render webpages decently. Opera and Opera mini were usable, but Safari on my iPhone actually makes browsing on EDGE useful.
The scrolling in opera mini is well designed, browsing isn't half as difficult as you think, obviously not as good as with a pointing device... but that adds bulk. Personally, I prefer to have a phone that fits in my pocket.