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Humans Not Evolved for IT Security

Stony Stevenson writes to tell us that at the recent RSA Conference security expert Bruce Schneier told delegates that human beings are not evolved for security in the modern world, especially when it comes to IT. "He told delegates at the 2007 RSA Conference that there is a gap between the reality of security and the emotional feel of security due to the way our brains have evolved. This leads to people making bad choices. 'As a species we got really good at estimating risk in an East African village 100,000 years ago. But in 2007 London? Modern times are harder.'"

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  1. really by snarkh · · Score: 5, Funny

    As a species we got really good at estimating risk in an East African village 100,000 years ago.

    I wonder how many days would that guy last in an East African village 100,000 years ago.

  2. Ms Abacha? by Mr_Icon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Looking at the number of people falling for Nigerian scammers, I'd say that our ability to "estimate risk in an East African village" is not so hot either. :)

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  3. Humans Not Evolved for IT Security by Daimanta · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thank God I was intelligently designed for this kind of thing ;)

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    1. Re:Humans Not Evolved for IT Security by gammygator · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's because in Soviet Kansas, nothing evolves...

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  4. Bad Analogies Abound by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "The brain is still in beta mode, it's got all sorts of patches and workarounds. It's not perfectly created, it's clearly evolved up." Wow, just ... wow. I'm not even a biologist but I know that's a terrible analogy. You can't compare the brain to software. We can control software and decide when it 'goes live,' there are no prototypes in nature or evolution. Every attempt is an iteration of the process and the process is never ending. Furthermore, the existence of an absolute of 'perfectly created' is debatable on any level in regards to any process or system.

    Exaggerate uncommon risks -- for example, air travel is safer than cars but because car accidents are common they are seen as less risky Maybe because everyone involved in an air plane crash usually dies. Automobile deaths are much less. There's this idea of risk = probability * impact. In the case of automobiles, probability is high but the impact is low. It's the other way around in aircraft failures.

    Personified risk -- Osama Bin Laden is scarier than a faceless threat How in the hell does this relate to IT security? I think IT administrators are more afraid of the people they don't know hacking their systems then the people they actually employ doing the same. In the end, I'm sure more attacks come internally or from an ex-worker than someone unknown. Maybe the face you know should be more scary than the face you don't at the office?

    Risks that could be controlled -- The DC sniper caused a few deaths but the response was way out of proportion. Please elaborate, I know of the John Lee Malvo incident but I have no idea how this relates to IT security. Are you telling me that shutting down a system to protect a database from a possible threat or virus is overkill? I would respond with that varying on a case by case basis but at my job, offline databases are worth maintaining the integrity of the data inside them.

    I know I'm really coming off as a jerk when I say this but I don't think this article helped me in anyway. All I saw was someone over simplifying a complex problem--thereby making them seem smarter to the people they were explaining it to.

    Don't read this article, it has nothing to offer you. If you don't know this subject, I believe this article will only add to your confusion and lack of understanding.
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    1. Re:Bad Analogies Abound by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This is actually a hot psychological topic right now; humanities tendency to poorly conceptualize risk. We're far more worried about diseases we're unlikely to catch, than ones we are. Plane crashes are scary because planes aren't familiar to most people; poor understanding of the risks magnifies fear. People always worry about the stereotypical malicious strangers, when most assaults come from people you already know.

      I think mostly he's just pointing all this out as background to the tendency to poorly appreciate risk. He's basically saying, "People apply more worry to splashy things that aren't likely to happen, and therefore we have these huge data breaches because who cares about SSNs when the terrorists could be blowing up a nuke plant?"

      The only place where I think he's totally off base is calling the brain "a patchwork". It's not, in fact. It's extremely finely tuned to do what we need it to do...It makes us ferociously competitive animals, and that is proven rather than disproven, by all the security problems that we've been having. If we weren't competitive, we wouldn't have problems. The fact that not everyone works at the same level is irrelevant.

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  5. Smith by pete-classic · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Only human."
    --Agent Smith on IT security

  6. Re:do you want to check my shoes? by Kjella · · Score: 5, Informative

    And don't forget CYA security - security rules that aren't being followed and aren't being enforced either - but that exist solely so that when shit hits the fan, the bosses can say it was against policy. These are usually extremely draconian, impossible to implement or practicly impossible to follow while getting work done. But hey, it looks good on paper...

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  7. Re:Lets think about this. by joto · · Score: 5, Interesting

    but in an era where there is (comparatively) little immediate threat to life, we are not overly prepared to deal with subtle threats to information or technology

    If somebody breaks into my computer, will I die? No. Will I become sick of temporarily disabled? No. Will I lose money? Possible, but unlikely, and in any case the insurance company will get them back for me. Should I therefore hire a security consultant? NO!

    I believe most people get this analysis right.

    We are prepared to react to predators that want to eat us and starvation, but ill prepared to deal with people that want to defraud us and steal possessions that may not be immediately with us.

    More importantly, we are unable to plan for long-term security. If the planets ecosystem is under attack from global warming, creating and/or spreading lots of new diseases (harming us, our food, or in some other indirect way), do we stop emitting pollutants contributing to global warming? No. Do we invest money into biological research and education so we can handle the new diseases? No. Do we invest significantly in technological countermeasures, such as painting Sahara white, building dams against floods or the rising ocean, or even storing CO2? No. Do we do anything at all? Not really, unless you count selling quotas to each other.