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GNOME Foundation Helping OOXML?
christian.einfeldt writes "According to long-time OpenDocument Fellowship member Russell Ossendryver, it appears that GNOME founder Miguel de Icaza's widely-publicized praise for OOXML as a 'superb standard' is being followed up with on-going support by the GNOME Foundation in 'resolving' the thousands of criticisms leveled against Microsoft's proposed standard. In an open letter in his blog, Ossendryver urges the GNOME Foundation to halt its apparent support for OOXML as a standard and to put its efforts behind enhancing adoption of the genuinely open standard, ODF, which was approved by the world standards bodies as ISO/IEC standard 26300 on 2 May 2006."
and GNOME has become the bloated pig just like Microsoft wares, I'd get rid of him for that reason. I changed over to KDE because now it is the best of the two for my limited memory older machines.
The GNOME boys didn't get their monthly manila envelope from Microsoft.
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This site is so bitter and angry... what a bunch of whiney babies
One cool thing about mono is that they're using MS' strategy right back at em: Embrace and Extend. In some ways, Mono has more features than .NET, and in some cases (Silverlight 1.1) is ahead of Microsoft. That should make quite a few open source lovers cackle with glee more than anything :)
KDE uses Trolltech's Qt toolkit that is LICENSED UNDER THE GPL and (in version 4)
Yes, Qt is licensed under the GPL; however, it is owned by Troll Tech.
(unless you're interested in a proprietary license, you can buy one from them too)
See, you understand yourself that the software is proprietary, you simply try to pretend that it isn't.
Troll alert. Why don't you go drink some more of that sweet sweet tasting Microsoft Kool-Aid. Maybe after drinking it you will stop praising a convicted Monopoly. *Done on Kubuntu 7.10*
Actually, you are either a troll or a shill.
Definition of proprietary: "Exclusively owned; private". None of which applies to Qt under the GPL. QED, you are a moron.
Qt is exclusively owned by Troll Tech. Troll Tech requires copyright assignment for contribution.
Mono is most definitely using a proprietary Microsoft interface. It's not code, but that makes it even MORE limiting than even access to proprietary code.
Mono is using no Microsoft-proprietary code, nor does it rely on Microsoft-proprietary interfaces.
If you choose to, you can use Microsoft proprietary interfaces from Mono, just like you can from any other language; few people do, and the corresponding packages aren't even installed by default in distributions like Ubuntu.
Go shill/troll/be a retard elsewhere
It's the KDE promoters that are the shills, trolls, and retards. They almost screwed the Linux desktop once by falling for Troll Tech's license, and now they are trying to screw the Linux world once more with their "but-it's-also-GPL-so-it's-good" idiocy and their "C++-is-good-enough" attitude. I don't care much whether Gnome or Mono win in the long term, but if KDE wins, the Linux desktop is dead, both technologically and commercially.
"If everyone likes C# so much, then we should take matters into our own hands and implement a language with the features we like that is under our control!"
who the fuck is "we"? You never wrote one line of code to implement a language in your life.
I like how slashdotters all talk about "we" should implement this, and "we" have implemented that. None of you guys ever wrote anything worthwhile in your lives. You're posers, living vicariously through others (e.g. Linus), nothing more.
Can someone please mod kdawson +1 flamebait. Providing as the one reference in the submission a random dude's blog is lame.
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Microsoft may call in all their patents and make half of Gnome illegal in the US.
We can only hope.
The Farewell Tour II
Miguel is not our enemy. GNOME is an incredible contribution to humanity, and is just one of Miguel's many contributions to FOSS. I have spent probably 5 hours talking with Miguel and interviewing him for the Digital Tipping Point film project, and I know that he is very passionate about freedom. I don't always agree with everything that Miguel says, but he is one of the brightest minds of the FOSS community, and people really need to stop saying mean things about him. The mere fact that we do not agree with everything that Miguel says or does is no reason to speak poorly of him like this.
So there you have it, a mouthful of personal opinions. I bet you wanted to spend your time doing something else, like making out with your girlfriend (haha, just kidding) personally if I were you I wouldn't waste my time flaming superstars on message-boards, in my experience the must effective technique if you want to register strong disaproval and influence change is to slow handclap someone while they speak. YHNG HAND
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The reason *I* dislike C# is because it is so similar to java that it it a waste of effort. It only has one advantage over Java and that is M$ have full control over it. That advantage is an advantage for M$, not for me.
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