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NBC Chief Slamming Apple

On the heels of the beta of NBC's and News Corp.'s less-than-killer Hulu music store, NBC's chief Jeff Zucker is speaking out and saying the darnedest things. First, news.com reports, with derision, that Zucker demanded a cut of Apple's iPod revenue. That'll sure happen. Next, AppleInsider caught Zucker urging colleagues to take a stand against Apple's iTunes, charging that the digital download service was undermining the ability of traditional media companies to set profitable rates for their content online.

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  1. hehehe by rastoboy29 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Go ahead, scream motherfucker, for all the good it'll do you!

  2. Hey Zucker, go $#!^ in your own hat. by BWJones · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ah... Hey Zucker, go shit in your own hat.

    No, seriously. You want a cut of iPod revenues? Do you make hardware? Do you demand a cut of the manufacturers who produce DVD players? Do you demand a cut of the Internet carriers? Come on now. How about sticking to content creation and paying good writers to create quality content?

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    1. Re:Hey Zucker, go $#!^ in your own hat. by works · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I love the logic in that. If these were the car and oil companies, Shell would be seeking a free revenue stream from Ford because, god damnit, their cars run on Shell's content. Albeit that Shell has already been paid for that content, but anyways. WE WANT MORE MONEY, GIVE IT TO USSSSS!

      Some cleanup is needed in the high-up of media companies, how can these asshats even remotely expect to run a profitable distribution system in the near future.

    2. Re:Hey Zucker, go $#!^ in your own hat. by asc99c · · Score: 5, Insightful

      People buy iPods because they're a nice bit of easy to use hardware. Apple also created a nice bit of easy to use software for buying content. The hardware is at a good cost that people are happy to pay and the software is free. Apple's profit margins are testament to the fact that most people are happy to pay sensible prices when they are getting what they want.

      Meanwhile, the media companies have invested absolutely zero money and effort into providing their content in a form desired by consumers. While I like the iPod, I'm not expecting to always want one, or willing to buy any media that will only play on an iPod. That has ruled me out of buying anything from iTunes (until the DRM free stuff which is now out). I've got used to the hassle of ripping CDs now, but it's not an ideal solution. This is entirely the media companies fault.

      I'm happy for Apple to profit - the media companies need to look at their own actions.

    3. Re:Hey Zucker, go $#!^ in your own hat. by ChrisA90278 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "The problem with NBC is that they drive shows into the ground. They're doing it with Deal or No Deal and Law & Order. They did it with Dateline before."

      You don't understand how TV works. Some smart TV exec long ago noticed that viewers decide IN THIS ORDER (1) "I want to watch TV", (2) "What's on?" So because they operate in this order all you need is to have the show that sucks the least. They have already decided to watch something. it does not need to be good. To make money you want to spend the smallest amount of money and suck the least do that and you can get rich.

  3. Still stuck in the past.. by arthur5005 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I just wrote quite the comment on the previous story on HULU, of what I think about the traditional Media Industry: my view

    it's complete rhetoric, but I believe networks like NBC have lost their usefulness in light of real choice based network (ie internet).

  4. The true face of media industry. by rolfc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He is just showing the world that they are building their revenues on monopoly, and that they do not like competition, as it has the tendency to lower margins. This is the behaviour that our politicians are protecting with new privacyinvading laws and software patents.

  5. You know you're doing something right by wickerprints · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...when the movie/music industry execs get their panties up in a wad and behave like crybabies, insisting that they "deserve" a cut of profits on hardware sales. Each successive generation of corporate big shots is increasingly afflicted with the seemingly unstoppable disease that is called self-entitlement. "I'm going to cut in line because I'm busy and can't wait." "I'm going to swerve across 4 lanes of traffic while talking on my phone because I'm more important than everyone else." "That money is mine because I say it is."

    As children, these folks were the ones who stood alone on the playground at recess, holding the ball, because for all intents and purposes, they believed the entire world belonged to them. And they haven't grown up since then. The only reason why they've gotten as far as they have in life is because their limitless greed and egotism is repeatedly mistaken for ambition and confidence. The sad truth is that they only have as much power as others are willing to concede to them, and so their existence is more a reflection of the inability of our society to stand up and refuse to reward such psychopathy.

  6. To be fair to traditional media companies... by MojoRilla · · Score: 5, Funny

    NBC Universal chief executive Jeff Zucker on Sunday urged colleagues to take a stand against Apple's iTunes, charging that the digital download service was undermining the ability of traditional media companies to set profitable rates for their content online.
    To be fair to traditional media companies, blow and hookers cost a lot of money.
  7. Really worried about losing his stranglehold by antifoidulus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    he sees what is happening to the RIAA and is scared. Labels are really no longer necessary for a large number of bands to get their music out, with digital distribution, significantly lower production costs etc. And a lot of bands are dropping their labels as fast as they can. The reason the RIAA hates iTunes is that iTunes isn't controlled by them thus has no qualms about selling independent content. They want to launch their own service that only has bands signed by them to try to force bands to stay signed, but its just not going to happen.

    NBC is worried about following in their footsteps. While the bar for TV shows is a bit higher, its certainly not out of reach. For instance, how much would it really cost a group of independent people to make the next Seinfeld? Not a lot, esp. now that good video editing tools are pretty cheap(if not free in some cases). Look at how "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" started, the pilot episode cost them less than $100 to make. Imagine if they promoted that on iTunes instead of selling it to a network? They probably could have got enough money to continue to make more episodes and live comfortably. NBC sees its own irrelevance and is doing everything it can to try to stay relevant, but long term its just not going to happen.

  8. Re:Cut of iPod revenue... by calcapt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think that makes any sense at all. I'd wager that the iPhone is getting AT&T a significant number of contracts; AT&T is not helping Apple sell iPhones. In actuality, it's probably making the iPhone less appealing to consumers. Based on that, it makes sense that Apple gets a cut of AT&T's revenue.

    Likewise, NBC is not helping Apple sell iPods/iPhones with their content. Ask anyone who owns an iPod/iPhone; NONE will tell you that they got it to watch officially sanctioned NBC/big time media corporation content on their devices. Most of them can get their media through other means (and these means are more likely than not illegal). If anything, Apple is doing these companies a favor by presenting the media in a highly accessible/available/cheap format for the more conscientious consumer. If anything, Apple is helping them sell content that would otherwise be pirated.

    Now, it can be argued that the conscientious are provided more incentive to buy an Apple media device with the availability of officially sanctioned content. But I highly doubt that the content would draw significant numbers to warrant Apple giving up revenue. I feel that having video playback capability in the media players is enough to draw customers, even without the availability of actual content, especially when content can be user generated.

  9. Re:I paid 99 cents for a comcast ppv NBC show by Professor_UNIX · · Score: 5, Funny

    If they don't include some kind of commercial interruption it screws up the flow of the show. After a witty comeback or cliffhanger the show needs to break to give the viewer time to process what they've seen. It's artistic integrity we're dealing with here people. That's why we need to preserve the commercials in their entirety whenever possible.