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Google Begins "Gmail 2.0" Rollout

Stony Stevenson writes "Google on Tuesday confirmed it is giving Gmail a new look. This blog post has screenshots of a new Gmail interface that has been made available to a limited number of users. They are calling it "Gmail 2.0" even if Google isn't. Google confirmed the update is underway at its new San Francisco office, just prior to a briefing on an unrelated upcoming Google announcement. A Google spokesperson said that the new look has been made available to about one percent of all Gmail users and is being rolled out the rest on an ongoing basis."

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  1. 2.0? by Sporkinum · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I guess I didn't realize that gmail was past 1.0 yet. I thought it was still a beta.

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    1. Re:2.0? by nschubach · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm guessing they are calling it 2.0 because of the URL: http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2 instead of http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=1

      But they should be calling it Gmail UI2 instead of 2.0.

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    2. Re:2.0? by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm afraid google use the term 'beta' correctly. They just have higher standards than you.

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    3. Re:2.0? by Chelloveck · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The whole "Beta" thing that google and company do is really starting to piss me off. It's getting regular users to expect "Beta" to mean "1.0" and when Beta turns out to actually mean Beta, they get all pissy.

      I lay the blame at the feet of open source developers who started this nonsense. Far too many open source utilities have had years of stable versions numbered <1.0. These apps are in permanent "beta" simply because the developers don't want take responsibility for a finished product. It ate your hard drive? Ooh, sorry. You gotta expect some bugs in a beta. We expect it to be finalized sometime before the heat death of the universe. But don't quote us on that.

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    4. Re:2.0? by Spokehedz · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wow... 110% you say? that explains the email from 'unbornfetus33421@gmail.com' I keep getting.

    5. Re:2.0? by alexgieg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You prefer that users expect 1.0 to mean 'beta'?
      Thanks to Microsoft, I think most already do. Isn't it common nowadays for users in general, and those in TI in particular, to expect any new OS developed by them to only work correctly after its first service pack? I know I do. 2000 wasn't good. 2000 SP-1 (or more, I don't remember) made it good. XP wasn't good. XP SP-1 was. Vista isn't good. Vista SP-1 probably will be. And so on and so forth.

      Actually, even back in the days Microsoft used numbers to differentiate product versions, it was common sense that "x.0" versions weren't worth it. Those who knew advised users to prefer a previous version with a higher number after the dot, as by then it would be stable and actually working as expected...

      In short: whenever Google decides to remove the "beta" tag from Gmail, I doubt they're going to call it "Gmail 1.0". It wouldn't be good for business.
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    6. Re:2.0? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dear Spokehedz,

      GET ME OUT OF HEEEERE!!!!!!!

      Yours,

      unbornfetus33421

  2. JavaScript back-end? by jeks · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...thanks to a JavaScript back-end rewrite...

    I highly doubt that GMail uses JavaScript on the back-end. In fact, it is pretty well known that GMail is written in Java and only uses JavaScript on the front-end.

    1. Re:JavaScript back-end? by Khuffie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      From a purely client-side perspective, what he sees, the images, html and all that, is the front-end. What deals with all the different states on the client-side, is also the back-end.

    2. Re:JavaScript back-end? by BESTouff · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's the frontend's backend. What's hard to understand here ?

  3. Faster access due to pre-fetching and caching by jbarr · · Score: 5, Informative

    Apparently, one of Google's goal in releasing this new version is to provide a new code framework that will help them to speed up Gmail's response time in a number of areas. One feature of note is that Gmail now pre-fetches and caches messages in the current view, so when you click on a message, it loads almost instantly. On my broadband connection, I see much improved response--clicking a message now displays it almost instantly--no lags or delays.

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    1. Re:Faster access due to pre-fetching and caching by jbarr · · Score: 4, Informative

      >>Apparently it crashes Opera faster than ever.

      Until Google develops to make it more compatible with Opera, you may want to either try the "Older version" link at the top of the page, or the "Basic HTML" link at the bottom. At least they're providing viable options.

      -Jim
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  4. Re:still in beta by hcmtnbiker · · Score: 5, Funny

    What is a beta of a beta?

    A Microsoft beta

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  5. Re:[whine]... by Gleng · · Score: 5, Informative

    IMAP seem to be only rolled out to people with English(US) language settings at the moment. To enable IMAP, I had to:

    1) Change the language setting from English(UK) to English(US).
    2) Go back to settings, and then into the newly available "Forwarding and POP/IMAP" tab.
    3) Enable IMAP.
    4) Configure my client (Thunderbird) and make a successful connection.
    5) Go back into the settings, and change the language back to English(UK). The "Forwarding and POP/IMAP" tab changes back to just "Forwarding and POP".
    6) Continue using my sweet, sweet, IMAP.

    This method is hit and miss it seems. But hopefully some people might be lucky.

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  6. Re:still in beta by daem0n1x · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, a Microsoft 1.0 is Alpha, MS SP1 is Beta and MS SP2 is the 1.0 version. When the product is good enough it's discontinued and the whole cycle starts again.

  7. What I REALLY want is... by MrZeebo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's great that they're improving the interface, and being able to access mail stored on Google's servers via IMAP is a nice addition. But what I REALLY want is to be able to store my mail on MY server, and access it via Google's awesome interface. Really, just use Google as an IMAP client to my mail server.

    I know they offer to do that via POP, but I want the "live" copy of my mail to remain on my server, and for Google to access it via IMAP. I don't like the idea of all my mail being stored on someone else's server, especially when I'm not paying anything for it and therefore should have no real expectation of it still being there tomorrow.

    Google for domains seems at first glance to do this, but your mail is actually still stored on Google's servers.

    Has anyone ever heard of this sort of feature coming in the future?

  8. But by witte · · Score: 5, Funny

    is it compatible with Comcast ?

  9. Re:is 2.0 automatically secure? by Chroniton · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just use the Customize Google firefox plugin. It will automatically do that for you.

  10. Re:still in beta by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Because it's true.

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  11. Re:still in beta by drspliff · · Score: 4, Funny

    It compiles! Quick ship the release candidate :D

  12. Just start there by chphilli · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just set your bookmark to https://mail.google.com/ - you'll start & stay in SSL. I've been doing this for a really long time ( I can't remember when I even created the bookmarks I have in all my browsers to do exactly this. )

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  13. Re:still in beta by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't know what their actual problem is...Design by committee probably. I think one of Apple's greatest strengths right now is that they have a real solid clarity of vision; they have people who know what would be cool and useful and they give them the freedom to make it happen.

    Microsoft has bits and pieces...Some teams know what they're doing, and put out good products...I'm not displeased with IE 7, or Office, aside from the usual proprietary crap. Vista...Well, I haven't used it much, so I'll not claim to be an expert. But it fails on some of the most fundamental stuff, stuff that should be right as a given, like file copying and responsiveness. The security features are executed really poorly from a user standpoint; it's much more friendly to turn them off.

    To me that just suggests that no one is in charge. The worst design decisions almost always result from committee and compromise. You need to hire a good lead, and let them stamp their vision on it.

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  14. version 2 had better sync ! by johnjones · · Score: 5, Interesting

    first of all lets me get this straight I think Gmail is good client and the IMAP access has gone a long way to make it even better BUT

    gmail does NOT SYNC with anything e.g. my contacts in my phone

    solution = syncML !

    contacts, calendar etc lots of others e.g. plaxo (annoying interface) and ZYB have this sorted and here I am fumbling around with CSV files

    I hate it I try and sync with many differant devices and just wish there was a nice way
    hell there is a thunderbird plugin there is a outlook plugin and MOST phones support it....

    please please google gmail 2 should focus on contacts and introduce syncML !

    regards

    John Jones

  15. Re:Trust? by Ticklemonster · · Score: 4, Funny
    I trust it enough to use it for email. Anybody who would email stuff that was sensitive is kinda nutty. I mean come on, it's the internet, crackerland, insecurenet, etc. So what if you use super encryption and all that jazz? If you send something sensitive, somebody can get hold of it one way or another. I guess there's some thrill involved in all of that, but when I contact the mothership, it's always face to face. No reason letting you humans in on the secret.

    Oops.

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  16. "I just want" by zippthorne · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just want...


    **shiver**

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  17. FTP loses based on ease of use by sjbe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sheesh, when will people understand that EMAIL was *not* concieved for large binary attachements...


    They won't. Not trying to be snide but that battle was lost long ago. It does not matter that FTP is technically more efficient and better designed for file transfer. Attaching a file is simple and, like it or not, using an ftp server involves more steps, additional software, additional security, and additional training. FTP fails the mom test. It's harder than attaching a file for NO additional benefit to the user in 99.999999% of cases. Furthermore, most people do not have or know about ftp servers, they have email accounts. So they use the tool they have and know how to use.

    Does this cause problems for the network admins? Sure. Doesn't matter though. Ease of use/learning for the user wins here. If you want ftp to be used, make it easier to use than attaching a file and people will flock to it. Until then, it's going to be used only by nerds like me in the few special cases where ftp is the only alternative.
  18. Re:Why not use a protocol concieved for attachment by MonoSynth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...and how are binaries on usenet less hackish than binaries in e-mail??