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Blogger Wins 1.5 Year Legal Battle

FixYourThinking writes "After nearly one and a half years of harassment from a relentless attorney, it seems that quietly a blogger in South Carolina has won a monumental ruling in favor of bloggers. In a summary judgement requested by the Defendant, Philip Smith was able to obtain a special sanction after the Plaintiff attorney put a 'notice of lien' (called lis pendens) on Smith's residence. The judge also reprimanded the Plaintiff attorney for abusive deposition and court procedure. The case set forth the following; 'It's not the format; it's the content and intention that make text journalism / reporting.'"

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  1. I just wish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The ruling made it clear that blogging is commentary and/or editorializing, but not reporting in the journalism sense. In 99% of all cases, bloggers are not journalists and they should not be given the rights of someone who holds a press card.

    1. Re:I just wish by Br00se · · Score: 3, Interesting

      At the risk of feeding a troll. There is no reason to provide any special protections to a "professional" journalist. Anyone that keeps a record of events should enjoy all the protections allowed by law. Having a press card does not make you immune from making mistakes or from being unethical or incompetent. Trust me, I've worked in newspapers for 17 years. I've worked with people who are considered processional journalists and with citizen journalists in my community, and there is no reason to legally distinguish between the two.

    2. Re:I just wish by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A "press pass" is not a governmental issued thing, period. It would be unconstitutional for the government to issue any such thing and only allow people with the "press pass" to engage in *press*. Read your Constitution, make sure you understand the big words, starting with "Constitution".

      Three words: Free Speech Zones.

      Compare and discuss amongst yourselves. Is it constitutional to say that you can express dissent locked up inside of this fence after we've already corralled and ID'd you, or do you have the right to free speech everywhere. Don't taze me bro!!

      Two more words: Habeus Corpus.

      Is it constitutional for the government to suspend Habeus Corpus of citizens and non-citizens alike as they see fit? Bonus points if you can identify the part of the constitution which expressly forbids this.

      Three more words: Warrantless Wire Tapping.

      Surely, it can't be constitutional to eavesdrop on everyone in case you might be able to find something, right? Because, you're supposed to be secure in your person and papers from unreasonable search and seizure, right?

      The current administration, with the help of their crack (head) legal minds, have allowed all sorts of things to happen which are blatantly unconstitutional. Singling out this one aspect (while, theoretically valid) is, in practice, pointless.

      If they can get an AG to issue a legal opinion, claim executive privilege to prevent any form of legal action, as well as refusing to answer questions to congress ... then, in effect, they can do anything they want to. And, apparently, there is nobody around who can force them to comply with the law. They passed into unconstitutionality years ago, and they seem to be making up exceptions that allow them to override the rule of law and the oversight of Congress.

      A right cannot be taken away. It is a right, you have it, period.

      Let us hope that remains true. Because, the government has already taken away rights. And, they continue to do so. As has been stated here on Slashdot so often, "National Security" and "Protecting Children" are the secret codes to unlock the constitution.

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    3. Re:I just wish by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's brain dead easy to get a press pass to most any event. Hell I got a camera bag full of them from the past 4 years, over 1/2 were given to me without me asking... I walk into the event with 3-4 digital slr's around my neck and a vest and the gate guy hands me a press pass.

      99% of being "press" is looking and acting like you belong there. the rest is talking your way into getting the pass.

      Hell I did it so good last year, I was asked before I left the event that if I could be paid to be their official photographer next year. I got a paying photog job out of just looking like I was a press photographer.

      By the way, keep every press pass you are given. If you are questioned about where your pass is (because you did not social engineer one at the entrance and wandered in from the side) and you are rummaging through a bunch of old ones they usually wave you through. Worst case they send you to the trailer to get one. then it's a 50/50 chance you get one or you get told no.

      The fun part is getting back stage at concerts.. sometime a press pass can get you there.

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    4. Re:I just wish by Sique · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If a blogger wants to call themself a journalist, they'll have to earn it - just like someone working for a print publication.

      It's interesting to listen to your statement about journalists, but it just describes how you define a journalist.

      I don't know the legal situation in the U.S. that much, but at least in Germany journalist is not a protected profession. Everyone and his dog has the right to call themselves "journalist". If you write for a respected magazine or for the unregurarily edited paper of the local sunflower growers association, doesn't matter. You don't even need to have published anything and are still allowed to call yourself a journalist.
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  2. Re:1.5 years for a court case isn't that bad by edward2020 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And don't forget R. Kelly's criminal suit that he has pending against him. That's been, what, like 6-7 years since he... well, we know what he did.

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  3. IANAL, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
    From TFA:

    The Plaintiff attorney forced me to reveal trade secret information regarding an invention of mine and also forced me to reveal several of my clients personal information. One subject of a completely unrelated article that I posted was contacted and prompted to say something bad about me. Instead, he contacted me and I posted his letter on my website.
    IANAL, but isn't there an issue that the plaintiff could raise here? I would think contacting a third party & requesting them to issue derogatory comments was actionable in some way.
  4. Does this work in reverse? by TheGoodSteven · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If a blogger can be given the same rights as a journalist because of the content of his message, does that mean that media outlets - TV shows, newspapers, etc., can have it taken away if it is found that their content isn't really news?

    1. Re:Does this work in reverse? by BadMrMojo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The quote in TFS implies a similar issue. This is not as much a monumental success for blog[i]gers[/i] as it is for blog[i]ging[/i].

      The quote says that text is possibly protected, regardless of format. While I approve wholeheartedly of that notion, it also implies that for any text to be considered protected as journalism, it needs to meet an nebulously-defined standard of "content and intention." I also happen to agree with that as well but I can see how others might not share that opinion. Most bloggers, even after this decision, still fall under the same unprotected, non-informative, masturbatory umbrella as before - the medium itself just got a little official recognition.

  5. Now if he could get paid for the inconvenience ... by meburke · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The article didn't mention whether the sanctions had any fines or reparations attached. Luckily the blogger was able to argue his case pro se, but this is not normally advisable and it is mostly unsuccessful. The original blog was apparently written in high temper, but the writer still managed to keep his cool. As a warning to other bloggers: Speak from verifiable experience (yours or others'), and speak the truth with precision. You may be entitled to your opinion, but you may have to defend it, so hyperbole and angry characterizations count against you.

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  6. Why the third person? by cooley · · Score: 4, Interesting
    From TFS:

    After nearly one and a half years of harassment from a relentless attorney, it seems that quietly a blogger in South Carolina has won a monumental ruling in favor of bloggers Directed at the story's submitter, "fixyourthinking":
    Hey buddy, I'm really glad you (rightfully) won your court case and all against those jerks, but why post it to Slashdot with a sentence like that? The use of the word "seems" implies to me that you're trying to pretend you're not Phillip Smith.

    Aren't you, in fact, the defendant in this case? Submitting stuff and pretending you're not the owner of the blog you're linking to, and implying you're not the fellow referenced in the case, is just a little lame IMHO.
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  7. Re:What's so special about that press card? by monkeyboythom · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If I'd written all the truth I knew for the past ten years, about 600 people - including me - would be rotting in prison cells from Rio to Seattle today. Absolute truth is a very rare and dangerous commodity in the context of professional journalism.
    - Hunter S. Thompson

  8. Bullshit. by PhxBlue · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The ruling made it clear that blogging is commentary and/or editorializing, but not reporting in the journalism sense. In 99% of all cases, bloggers are not journalists and they should not be given the rights of someone who holds a press card.

    Okay, go to a local newsstand. Pick up a paper, pay the $.50, and open up to the editorial page.

    What's the difference between that editorial page and a blog? The format. So saying that "blogging is commentary ... but not reporting in the journalism sense" is bullshit.

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  9. Re:What's so special about that press card? by cHiphead · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But why is that right extended to CORPORATE news org employees and not Slashdot commentors? We regularly act a proxy for the wider population in our comments, whether or not that wider population agrees with what we have to say or report (which is the same case as a news organizations' reporters and editors content).

    The "dont tase me bro" guy is an exception and a straw man argument to level in this discussion, although his intent must be proven as non-news and fictional. In retrospect, his incident DID finally inspire me to read the Greg Palast book (Armed Madhouse), so perhaps even the pranksters can have a news worthy purpose.

    Do/Did you work in a news org of some sort?

    Logistics are not the issue, control of the news flow(not just from a propaganda angle, from a corporate value and advertising revenue viewpoint as well) is the real issue.

    Cheers.

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  10. Check out Daily Kos by coyote-san · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Check out Daily Kos (http://dailykos.com) yesterday. Some idiot 'with a press card' was basically making the same point, and specifically named Markos ('kos') as an example.

    Oops. As Markos points out, the critic didn't even bother to click the 'About' button where he would learn that he has an undergraduate degree in journalism, has actually worked as a paid journalist, and oh yeah also has a law degree. He isn't some guy ranting from his mother's basement.

    I've seen this pattern countless times. Someone says a "blogger" isn't qualified, yet even a casual examination shows that the blogger is not only highly qualified, they're often more qualified than their would-be critic.

    Does this mean that this is true of all bloggers? Of course not. But at this point I think we've clearly crossed the "better to let 20 murderers walk than hang one innocent man" threshold and bloggers should be treated with respect and as bona fide journalists unless they demonstrate otherwise.

    Unrelated note: you do realize, don't you, that Fox News has successfully argued in court that it should not be held accountable for factual errors in its reports because it presents 'opinion and commentary', not 'news', programming? Why are they entitled to 'journalist' protection while people with appropriate experience and/or advanced degrees are held up for ridicule?

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    1. Re:Check out Daily Kos by R2.0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "But at this point I think we've clearly crossed the "better to let 20 murderers walk than hang one innocent man" threshold and bloggers should be treated with respect and as bona fide journalists unless they demonstrate otherwise"

      Absolutely. And since I wouldn't piss on a J-school graduate if he was on fire, much less treat him with respect, I guess that's how I'll treat bloggers as well. As for the government, "journalists" should have no fewer rights than I do, but certainly no more.

      Somewhere along the way, the journalists have gotten it into their head that they are part of a fourth branch of government: "representing" the people and providing oversight. And now, they have started acting like members of government - priveledged, out of touch with reality, and believing the laws don't apply to them.

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    2. Re:Check out Daily Kos by zildgulf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Unrelated note: you do realize, don't you, that Fox News has successfully argued in court that it should not be held accountable for factual errors in its reports because it presents 'opinion and commentary', not 'news', programming?

      Not just factual errors, but known factual errors (the rest of us call them lies). They were given a statement, they checked and found the statement to be false. They used the statement anyway because it sounded better than the truth. They knowingly spread information they believed to be false.


      That is called "Truthiness", or by Fox News "Fair and Balanced", or by many people in my neighborhood, "The Truth".....

      Let's call it "bald-faced lying" and go home :)

  11. Did the system work? by walterbyrd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Okay, this guy decided to fight, and he won. But, what about the other 99% of the time when the blogger just says "f**k it" and removed the blog entry? What about huge legal fees that bloggoers may be forced to pay, just to use their constitutional rights?

    What about the chilling effect that this bogus litigation has on other bloggers?

    IMO: the system working is debatable.

  12. Re:What's so special about that press card? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    What differentiates a "press pass" from a piece of paper I printed out on my home inkjet that says Press Pass and lists my publication? In other words, who gets to decide whether or not I am conveniently a member of the press?

  13. Re:What's so special about that press card? by 2short · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "You can say that he has the right to speak, sure, but that's not the same thing. "

    Freedom of speech isn't the same as freedom of the press? I agree, and so do the authors of the first amendment, who chose to protect both.

    What protections, rights or privileges do you think should be extended to journalists who have press passes and not to journalists who do not?