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Students Assigned to Write Wikipedia Articles

openfrog writes "An inspired professor at University of Washington-Bothell, Martha Groom, made an interesting pedagogical experiment. Instead of vilifying Wikipedia as some academics are prone to do, she assigned the students enrolled in her environmental history course to contribute articles. The result has proven "transformative" to her students. They were no longer spending their time writing for one reader, says Groom, but were doing work of consequence in a "peer reviewed" environment, which enhanced the quality of their output."

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  1. Doublt benefit.. by JustShootMe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And when the wikipedia admins come through and start wholesale editing or deleting articles, and then banning them when they try to defend their changes, they will also get a lesson in what happens when online communities start losing track of their core mission and are taken over by people with exaggerated egos and an axe to grind.

    Oh, wait. This is slashdot. No one here has any idea what I'm talking about. Nevermind. :)

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    1. Re:Doublt benefit.. by Doppler00 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, I've noticed wikipedia is becoming more like that lately. Like, someone thinks it's their duty to go through every article and say "trivia sections are discouraged" or other nonsense little warnings that don't contribute anything to the article. All because it's some inside knowledge that they think they are so great they know all these "rules" about wikipedia and try to make you follow them.

    2. Re:Doublt benefit.. by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I was going to moderate your comment down, but instead, fine: I'll rise to the bait. Frankly, your comment isn't very insightful, and it doesn't inspire much conversation. You're simply not as thought provoking as you apparently think that you are. Maybe that's what behind your moderation, instead of some vast /. groupthink. Even if your point has a shred of interesting commentary, you lose that behind aggressive and inflammatory language. There is a way to make a point without using insulting language. If anything, it's for the tone, and not the comment, for which you will be modded down. Finally, if you don't like /., go start your own site. Start a blog, call it wiki-hater-blog, whatever. Then you can write whatever you like, and if people find you interesting they'll read your comments, drive ad revenue to you, leave comments, etc. There. There's your conversation. Fun, huh?

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    3. Re:Doublt benefit.. by Domstersch · · Score: 5, Informative

      Guess what? Academics are often "MANDATED" to "(not just submit, but) actually publish articles" in peer-reviewed journals, or at least publish their findings in other area-specific literature (perhaps books, etc.). Is that an "indication of arrogance and incompetence" on the part of the university/college that employs them? Hell no - it's a condition of their employment that they produce a quantity of quality writing and original research. Or, to look at it another way, it's what academics do.

      Such writing is often under time pressure - that doesn't mean it ends up being plagiarized, or a pack of lies, or 'just' journalism as you imply.

      One reason this project works - one reason it's a good exercise to put students through - is that it forces them to synthesize their knowledge on a subject and practice writing in a vigorous, academic style, with the benefits of peer-review, but without the pressure of formal publication.

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  2. Deleted! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    And of course, because their articles were new and not notable, they were promptly put up for a deletion vote.

  3. Linda Mack! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Obviously they weren't writing about Lockerbie Scotland (see Admin Slimvirgin aka the intelligence agent Linda Mack), or Circumcision (see admin Jayg). Or wrote something either of these admins felt was not notable, and deleted wholesale.

    I'm tripping over myself to donate more money to WalesCultBomisOPedia!

  4. Re:Makes perfect sense by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I once asked some of my comp sci lecturers why they didn't get students to do something useful, like work on open source, instead of assigning them pointless busy work projects. Two main answers:

    1. it's too hard to grade
    2. it's seen by many to be exploitative.

    So there ya go.

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  5. Damn... by Derek+Loev · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My school blocks Wikipedia entirely. When asked why the answer is "anybody can edit it". I don't think they understand the fact that nobody is going to cite Wikipedia as a reference for a paper, but Wikipedia does offer great sources that can be used to further explore a subject.
    I would suggest teaching students how to find legitimate sources instead of using the brute-force method of blocking everything they don't understand.

    1. Re:Damn... by JebusIsLord · · Score: 5, Insightful

      God, i wish we'd had wikipedia when i was in school. The references section is often a wonderful, up-to-date collection of very citeable resources.

      The library was a wonderful place to get peer-reviewed articles that were 20, 30 years obsolete.

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  6. Re:I've suggested this by JonathanR · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Of course, another activity could be for students to take a snapshot of an article, and proceed with research (web or otherwise) to review and validate all the claims/statements. It would be a good exercise in citing sources and tuning their bullshit/propaganda detectors.

  7. Oh noes! They can edit teh internets!11one by serviscope_minor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My school blocks Wikipedia entirely. When asked why the answer is "anybody can edit it".

    As opposed to the rest of the internet which is chock-full of nothing but the highest quality, peer-reviewed content, written universally by the finest experts, hand selected from across the world?

    I can only guess you're not reading this from a school computer, since anyone can post comments... and frankly anyone frequently does so.

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  8. Re:not the first by GaryOlson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not sure it is newsworthy.
    No one was murdered, raped, bribed, extorted, or assaulted. I would claim TFA is far more newsworthy than most of what is claimed as news.

    In this exercise the sum total of human achievement is increased rather than decreased. I find that highly newsworthy.

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  9. Re:Makes perfect sense by jadeforrest · · Score: 5, Informative
    My wife, a research librarian, attended a conference last week where Professor Groom presented on this topic. What she found interesting were a couple of points:
    • The students thought the assignments were more meaningful because they weren't just thrown away at the end of the assignment.

    • The fact that assignments were written for the public instead of just one professor gave a whole other level of meaning to the assignments, and meant that they were getting another level of feedback. It is a touch of what peer-review is like.

    • Selecting the assignments was often very difficult, because by the time the article had been written, the article would have already been filled in. Also, a lot of topics are already taken.

    • She taught some classes where she allowed them to fill in already existing articles, and some where they had to come up with something new entirely.

    • She had to prepare them when there were controversial topics, and in one case she actually had to intervene because people were being so rude to a student (I guess the student was also new to wikis). There was a fair amount of orientation into the wiki community.

    • She partnered with a technical person during the project. I think it might have been his idea actually.

    • Some students had lasting connections with their topics even after the assignments finished. One student was written by a researcher in the field he or she had written the article about, praising them for doing such a thorough, well-written article. That type of validation is hard to get from conventional articles.

    • Students generally thought writing a wiki article would be easy, but were not very well prepared for doing so. Writing a well-researched, well-documented summary is very different than typical persuasive essays.

    • Original research doesn't belong on Wikipedia unless it's published elsewhere first.

    • Grading seems like it would be very difficult. How do you account for what the student contributes, and what other people contribute. Also, how would the student write the article over a course of a few weeks, incrementally, or all at once, and what kind of version control issues would ensue?
    So imagine if more schools did this. What would Wikipedia look like then? Any different? It seems like it would encourage a lot more citations if nothing else. It also seems like you would reach a point where it gets increasingly difficult to find a topic that's not incredibly obscure. And then it would be exactly like academia today :)
  10. Re:Double benefit.. by sahai · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'll come out of the closet here. I have assigned this to my students in advanced courses as well. But I always make it optional. Students have a choice: write up lecture notes for one lecture to share with their fellow students in class or find an article related to the course material in Wikipedia and improve it substantially.

    My experience has been that those that do this have made very nice contributions for the community. I check up on it to make sure that it is not confused. Of course, I have only tried this in the relatively small classes that we have here at Berkeley.

    The academic world is about the developing and sharing of knowledge with our fellow human beings. Wikipedia seems like one of the right ways to do this for well established results with immediate benefits and very little pain.

  11. Articles created by the students by utkarshraj · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is not the first assignment of its type. There have been more than 40 such projects; there are at least 10 more in progress. The students and the professors need to be aware of the "No original research" policy. Many university-level assignments involve original research, and Wikipedia is not the right place for publishing original research.

    Here are some of the articles created as a part of the assignments we're talking about: