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Linux-Powered Lego-Like Devices Target Developers

An anonymous reader writes "A six-person startup is readying a product resembling nothing so much as a set of electronic Legos for device designers. The idea is to provide a set of snap-together components from which engineers can build 'anything,' the company claims, without having to learn solid state electronics. Both hardware and software (Linux/Java phoneME/OSGi) are open source, so that over time, the Lego box will grow, the company hopes. Initially, there's an ARM11-powered base with built-in wifi, and modules for camera, GPS, motion detector, LCD display, keyboard, touchscreen, and stereo speakers. Ooh, and a mysterious 'teleporter,' too."

164 comments

  1. Do you program them in Logo? by Apple+Acolyte · · Score: 4, Funny

    Haha. It's a joke!

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    1. Re:Do you program them in Logo? by ady1 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Its LEGO, you insensitive clod!

    2. Re:Do you program them in Logo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, I hope that's not a real joke. You do remember that Legos offered a Logo interface, right? we were writing that shit when I was in like 4th grade. It was awesome. I don't remember exactly how it worked, but instead of moving around the little mark ('turtle') you'd send commands to the ports into which the Legos were plugged. The only real stuff I remember was one or two electric motors to spin stuff (I remember our merry-go-round) and both force (a button) and light sensors.
      god, that shit was off the heezy.

      so your joke was spot on, bro.

    3. Re:Do you program them in Logo? by doti · · Score: 1

      Man, that's the best advice I ever had. Thanks!

      I'll start today by throwing away my Linux PC, where I develop my shitty hobbyist games, and just buy a Playstation and a Mac! It will be great, I don't even have to think anymore. Maybe I'll just think about which of the many hot girls that will instantly be throwing at my arms I will hit first. Wo-hooo!!!!

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    4. Re:Do you program them in Logo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      You damn right, go fuck some hot chicks,,, in the ass. Nothing beats blowing your load in some bitches ass and pulling out with shit on your cock.

    5. Re:Do you program them in Logo? by awrowe · · Score: 1

      tomato skins.

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  2. Right.... by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 4, Funny

    But who's gonna wanna develop a hardware- and software-based solution from pieces called 'BugModules'? I mean, if I'm a developer, do I want to use something that has 'BUG' right in the name? That doesn't instill any confidence in the product, if you ask me...

    1. Re:Right.... by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      I mean...imagine going to your customer and saying "Yeah, and we built it outta BUGS!!!!"

    2. Re:Right.... by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hm.. a GPS module.. Who wants to bet that someone makes a product called a "bug tracker" :)

    3. Re:Right.... by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      Or ... Bugzilla!

      Oh, wait....

    4. Re:Right.... by slashdotlurker · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't worry. The best selling digital multimeters in many labs are from a company called "Fluke" (German I think).

    5. Re:Right.... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      I think that pales in comparison to a popular consumer electronic whose trade name sounds like a euphemism for penis.

    6. Re:Right.... by Gospodin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sell it as environmentalism. "We take discarded bugs from software around the world, run them through our industrial-grade recycling plant, and turn it into pure, post-consumer recycled BUGS(r)."

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    7. Re:Right.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Yeah, and we built it outta BUGS!!!!"

      Cue ASP.NET jokes in 3... 1... 2...

    8. Re:Right.... by KudyardRipling · · Score: 1

      How about DOS for Dummies? A cardinal rule of marketing was violated by insulting the potential customer. What out there does NOT have its corresponding For Dummies(tm) book nowadays?

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    9. Re:Right.... by zurtle · · Score: 1

      Is that right? I remember as a junior I had to find the instruction set for an obsolete signal generator. The only source was from an English electronics company.

      Maybe your popular penile electronics euphemism (P-PEE) may be serviced here?

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    10. Re:Right.... by Linker3000 · · Score: 1

      Agreed - much better to use off-the-shelf hardware and tell your customer you sat in front of Gutsy Gibbon (or Flatulent Flamingo..whatever..) to develop the firmware - much more professional

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    11. Re:Right.... by tehmorph · · Score: 1

      And very nice they are, too. I personally could see these things taking off with developers- especially the younger generation, especially if the interface is nice and polished.

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    12. Re:Right.... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 0, Redundant

      "Yeah, and we built it outta BUGS!!!!"

      Cue ASP.NET jokes in 3... 1... 2... Your countdown seems a bit buggy ...
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    13. Re:Right.... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      What out there does NOT have its corresponding For Dummies(tm) book nowadays? Is there a "Slashdot for Dummies"?
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    14. Re:Right.... by linuxboredom · · Score: 1

      Well, I saw an Internet for Dummies the other day. Does that count?

    15. Re:Right.... by Reaperducer · · Score: 1

      Is Wang still popular? I haven't seen a Wang terminal since the 90's.

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    16. Re:Right.... by Nazlfrag · · Score: 3, Funny

      Digg?

    17. Re:Right.... by hitmark · · Score: 1

      i think that may be below the belt for the dummies of this world...

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    18. Re:Right.... by istartedi · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but that's probably just a... I dunno. But it's not common. Definitely not. It's probably just a... Dammit. I know I'm reaching for something here.

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    19. Re:Right.... by Pogdranaut · · Score: 1

      Don't worry. The best selling digital multimeters in many labs are from a company called "Fluke" Thats nothing. Our company used to buy its DVMs from Wayne Kerr
    20. Re:Right.... by moosesocks · · Score: 1

      Sell it as environmentalism. "We take discarded bugs from software around the world, run them through our industrial-grade recycling plant, and turn it into pure, post-consumer recycled BUGS(r)."


      +2 Interesting. Sometimes the mods around here frighten me.
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    21. Re:Right.... by mikael · · Score: 1

      Silicon Graphics Inc. (SGI) build their systems out of bricks.

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    22. Re:Right.... by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

      Don't worry. The best selling digital multimeters in many labs are from a company called "Fluke" (German I think). I'm sure that was just a ... coincidence.

      - RG>
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  3. So.. by Richard.Tao · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is this like and adult open source version of lego mindstorm? I remember loving that as a kid, never really figured out how to make it do anything, though....

    1. Re:So.. by GiMP · · Score: 4, Funny

      Is this like and adult open source version of lego mindstorm? I remember loving that as a kid, never really figured out how to make it do anything, though....


      They weren't even released until 1998. You either weren't a kid, or I have good reason to feel old.
    2. Re:So.. by satoshi1 · · Score: 1

      I was totally a kid in '98, when I first got my mindstorms. Graduated from my elementary school in the 6th grade in 2000. Currently in my second year of college. I know I shouldn't, but I totally feel old now realizing that I was playing with Mindstorms nearly a decade ago now.

    3. Re:So.. by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      To do: build a mindstorm robot that chases kids off your lawn.

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    4. Re:So.. by Kamots · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Mmm... adult?

      We used the lego-mindstorms in my grad-level robotics class. We were using a C compiler for them (think it, and the OS we were loading were open source even), and as long as you remembered that you didn't have any floating point... (i.e., 5/2*2 would be 4 not 5...) and that you had very limited stack space with no protection (use more than 1k stack and you were overwriting your heap...) you could do pretty much whatever you wanted. For example we were doing onboard inverse kinematics and pathfinding algorithms. Then you add in the ability to talk to them... and you start being able to get them to perform cooperative tasks.

      What I found most interesting about them was due to thier "legotastic" nature, it become very apparent how much influence the physical design has on your software design... and how difficult software problems could be changed with minor hardware tweaks and vice-versa. Having the ability to modify the physical design of the robot taught a *lot* more than merely being able to work with software did (as some work we later did with some Aibo's showed).

    5. Re:So.. by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 1

      To do: build a mindstorm exoskeleton that assists you in crushing small countries and chasing kids off your lawn

    6. Re:So.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They weren't even released until 1998. You either weren't a kid, or I have good reason to feel old.
      You think you feel old? When we wanted to make something "similar" when I was a kid we would have to do it with cam controlled clockworks. Have any idea how much time that would take? How much wax, assorted metals, clay,,,,? Access to an anvil, forge, crucible, oven, files,,,,,. How many complete tear downs and redos? So mostly we just took our pocket knives, carved some stuff out and used our imaginations. Now get off my pile of wood shavings!
    7. Re:So.. by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 1

      Or he's still a kid and he just thinks that he's not.

    8. Re:So.. by justfred · · Score: 0

      I for one welcome our Lego mindstorm exoskeleton overlords.

    9. Re:So.. by Tetsujin · · Score: 2, Informative

      and as long as you remembered that you didn't have any floating point... (i.e., 5/2*2 would be 4 not 5...) That's actually true whether you have floating point or not... Not a policy I really love but it makes sense from an efficiency standpoint...
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    10. Re:So.. by glittalogik · · Score: 4, Funny

      Next project:
      - Build an adjustable motorized ramp, so your robot can go uphill both ways.
      - Find some snow.

    11. Re:So.. by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      Erector sets......that little red and white gear box ruled.....

      Layne

    12. Re:So.. by merreborn · · Score: 1

      Is this like and adult open source version of lego mindstorm? I remember loving that as a kid, never really figured out how to make it do anything, though....
      They weren't even released until 1998. You either weren't a kid, or I have good reason to feel old.


      I saw a demo of something functionally equivalent to Lego mindstorms in 1992, in summer school in Palo Alto. The 1998 launch date for mindstorms suggests that it wasn't the mindstorms brand, but *someone* had something similar back then (and presumably earlier).

      Of course, being as this was in Palo Alto, it may have been some Stanford students testing a prototype on their potential target audience.
    13. Re:So.. by TheThiefMaster · · Score: 1

      I'm 22, in '98 I was 13. Most definitely a kid.

      Enjoy feeling old.

    14. Re:So.. by Kamots · · Score: 1

      well, true... guess that's what I get for oversimplifying my example. :P

      The point was just that you had unexpected effects arise due to the constraint. (Especially since the float and double keywords were still valid...)

    15. Re:So.. by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      IIRC the immediate inspiration for the mindstorms stuff with the mit programmable brick, indeed the term pbrick is quite common in lower level mindstorms documentation.

      There was also the lego dacta control lab from which the RCX borrowed it's sensors, the control lab was/is a teathered soloution supporting 4 unpowered sensors (color coded yellow), four powered sensors (color coded blue) and 8 motors and programmed in a logo based language which ran on the connected computer (PC mac or archimedes)

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    16. Re:So.. by hitmark · · Score: 1
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  4. Capella by Prysorra · · Score: 1

    Remember those toys?

    This makes me think of an adult version of that. Just sayin'.

    1. Re:Capella by bendodge · · Score: 1

      I think you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsela
      I was playing with some of those just the other day (got tons of them from various sources). They are some of the coolest toys ever made. It is a shame, though, that the new owner has introduced funky colors. And that it costs a fortune to buy a large enough collection to really have fun.

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    2. Re:Capella by fireboy1919 · · Score: 1

      I think he did mean capella. I used to play with those. I asked for an mp3 player for Christmas, and I asked for some music, or an instrument, and what did I end up with? A capella.

      It doesn't even work right without at least four people to play. My capsela set was way cooler. It wasn't nothing, unlike the capella. It was an actual thing.

      I remember taking it to class to demonstrate the concept of polarity by switching the wires connected to the battery and showing the motor changing direction (I was 7).

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    3. Re:Capella by Drantin · · Score: 1
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  5. Yes, but... by crowbarsarefornerdyg · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh, wait. It DOES run Linux!

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    1. Re:Yes, but... by Nazlfrag · · Score: 1

      Imagine a beowulf cluster of Lego - woah, that was damn easy to imagine.

  6. The plural of Lego by lobiusmoop · · Score: 4, Informative

    is Lego. (or Lego Bricks to be _really_ picky)

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    1. Re:The plural of Lego by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For anyone who watched family guy last night:

      Commence the beat down followed by the "It's the law, asshole" stamp.

    2. Re:The plural of Lego by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, I meant Robot Chicken, not Family Guy

    3. Re:The plural of Lego by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have to be picky then it is actually LEGO (all caps)

    4. Re:The plural of Lego by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LEGO my Eggo!

    5. Re:The plural of Lego by davidsyes · · Score: 2, Funny

      Legoose?

      What's good for legoose is good for le gander?

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    6. Re:The plural of Lego by jcuervo · · Score: 1

      Legoose? Anyone else read that and immediately think "legose.cx"?
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    7. Re:The plural of Lego by noidentity · · Score: 2, Informative

      And it's LEGO, not Lego.

    8. Re:The plural of Lego by Speare · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sure, what kid hasn't read the little brochure in their packet of Legos that explains that you don't call them Legos, but you call them Lego Bricks? For a while I thought it was pretty leet, like it was a cool "in" phrase. Now I just realize that they're doing what they gotta do to defend their trademark, which is "necessary" for them to lose protection in the face of cultural dilution. You know what, though? I ain't their bitch. I call 'em Legos. Yeah, too bad. Seeing as how everyone in America says Legos and applies the concept to everything (including TFA), I'd have to say they already lost this battle. I'm not going to go out of my way to explain their recommended legal terminology. Put another way, I'm going to speak English and not Corporate.

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    9. Re:The plural of Lego by JasterBobaMereel · · Score: 1

      Lego is self plural .... Like Sheep, it English not corporate (actually it's Danish "leg godt" Play Well)

      One Sheep
      Two Sheep
      Three Sheep

      One Lego
      Two Lego
      Three Lego

      You sound like a fool saying Sheeps/Sheepsies ... the same as you do saying Legos/Leggoes

      If you want to you can say One Lego Brick, Two Lego Bricks .....

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    10. Re:The plural of Lego by awrowe · · Score: 1

      Unless you are talking collectively about different breeds of sheep, in which case sheeps is correct. Mind you, you would then have to ask yourself why you were talking about different breeds of sheep and possibly also think about whether somewhere in the back of your mind you were also thinking about gum boots and the notorious 'cliff push back' reflex. Ask someone from New Zealand or Australia, they will explain it better.

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  7. Yes, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    will it blend?

    1. Re:Yes, but by dasPlookenMeister · · Score: 0

      can it fold space?

  8. Without Learning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Great, now so-called engineers can build things without knowing how they work, doesn't sound like an engineer to me, more like a simple programmer, more specifically, a java programmer. Nothing more than a glorified typist.

    Don't worry about the 'complex' stuff, let java do it FOR you.

    No need to learn electronics, let other people do it for you. Just snap together the components.

    I look dread the new crop of programmers and 'engineers' being 'output' by the educational system.

    1. Re:Without Learning? by SigILL · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No need to learn electronics, let other people do it for you. Just snap together the components.

      Actually, this is ideal for prototyping.
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    2. Re:Without Learning? by edittard · · Score: 3, Funny

      Bah! Off the shelf standard screws? In my day each one was individually designed to fit. And the apprentices had to cut the threads using their own teeth. If they'd grown any yet, otherwise, better toughen up them gums, kid.

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    3. Re:Without Learning? by kebes · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And I suppose you wired your house yourself, then? You would never use an ethernet card without first fully understanding all its circuitry? And you programmed all your apps yourself, in assembly?

      There's nothing wrong with using high-level programming languages, software libraries, and pre-built hardware. Using these pre-built components to build a useful device is no different than combining servers, routers, and wiring to build a network. You do *not* have to be intimately familiar with the low-level details of all the hardware in order to combine it together in a useful way.

      These hardware modules looks like they could be very fun and very useful. A great way for a DIY person to put together a fun toy, or an inexpensive solution to a problem, etc. It could also be quite useful for people who want to prototype new device ideas without commissioning expensive custom components.

      No one is arguing that the existence of these modular devices will replace the need for dedicated hardware for many applications (and the associated specialized engineers who design that hardware). The idea instead would be to lower the barrier to creating novel devices, so that hobbyists and non-specialists can try out new ideas that would have been prohibitively expensive otherwise.

      I know many people bemoan this "Cult of the Amateur" (e.g. Wikipedia, blogs, citizen journalism, high-level programming languages, etc.); but to me the whole "point" of technology in general (and computers in particular) is to reduce the barriers, so that "ordinary people" can do things that previously only a "selected few" were allowed to do. I find that this push towards community-driven work and lower barriers to technological progress and education are very much good things.

    4. Re:Without Learning? by moogied · · Score: 0
      Ya hes right..

      the second people stop reinventing the wheel the world wilL END!

      Eventually it will become so complex that learning both the higher levels of engineering(See robots, networks, etc) and the lower levels(EE, Circuit desgins, etc etc) will not be possible.

      No need to learn electronics, let other people do it for you. Just snap together the components.

      EXACTLY RIGHT. Stop working about electronics, concentrate on making impressives designs.

      It sounds to me like someone got an EE degree, and now wish they had simply major'd in robotics.

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    5. Re:Without Learning? by RManning · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have mod points today. I was going to mod your post but I couldn't find 'Bitter' or 'Grizzled'.

    6. Re:Without Learning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Great, now so-called engineers can build things without knowing how they work, doesn't sound like an engineer to me, more like a simple programmer, more specifically, a java programmer. Nothing more than a glorified typist.


      That's right! How dare anyone presume to build something without the proper background? I would never consider a project that didn't allow me to design my own programming language, write a compiler, write and compile my own operating system, and all running on silicon I designed and fabricated, after mining the silicon myself mind you, up hill both ways in the snow!

      How about you get over yourself? You do not need to be a professional engineer or computer scientist just to touch hardware or code. Allowing more people to work with hardware on a budget is a great tool for students, hobbyists, and even engineers. Exposing more people to these fields is a good thing; you don't need to be a professional chef to cook dinner, you don't need a degree in literature to write your blog, and you don't need to be a professional engineer before you can touch any piece of hardware.
    7. Re:Without Learning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I suppose you wired your house yourself, then? You would never use an ethernet card without first fully understanding all its circuitry? And you programmed all your apps yourself, in assembly?

      Yes, I did wire my house..it's nice to have an electricians license.

      I do program in assembly, I learned on a 68HC11, I learned to program small and fast code. I built most of the support circuitry myself, a keyboard reader, LCD module, extra RAM, DAC, etc.

      "You do *not* have to be intimately familiar with the low-level details of all the hardware in order to combine it together in a useful way."

      OK, I agree, but simply mashing together some technologies does not an engineer make.

    8. Re:Without Learning? by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      I'll go with the "prototypes" idea. I can actually deal with a lot of basic electronics, but being able to get the concept right and present it to someone that's paying for the work before going though an otherwise tough prototype development phase has plenty of value. There's nothing more annoying than a miscommunication about the functionality and having to rework the project.

    9. Re:Without Learning? by langelgjm · · Score: 1

      I figured someone would post exactly this comment. I sort of had an urge to mod you down as a killjoy, but you are partially right. I know from experience how much more you learn by building things from scratch than using some sort of kit.

      But the benefit this sort of kit can have is to lower the barrier to entry for more people. Maybe this kit will get people excited and show them the potential of what's possible to build; then, if they go on, they can learn the details. People have to start somewhere. Or is LEGO itself too simplistic for you? Sure, some kids rebuild junk cars for fun, but others don't have the time, space, or resources to do that. LEGO is a great way to get kids interested in mechanics; most of them might just end up building pirate ships, but there are always a few that take it further.

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    10. Re:Without Learning? by MythMoth · · Score: 2, Informative

      Good programmers are good programmers on any platform. Even ones you think are crappy.

      Bad programmers think they're good programmers, think pretty much everyone else is a bad programmer, and thinks that platforms matter more than they do.

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    11. Re:Without Learning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh cute little Stevie, you're so funny when you try to sound like you know what you're talking about. BUT YOU DON'T.

      Look at your posting history you stupid piece of shit. Look at it. Hardly a single comment has gone by in the last three months without us being able to turn it into a way to insult you. Do you honestly think you'll ever be able to get away from us? Do you honestly think we'll ever stop watching for you? We modded your last three posts Troll just because we can, because nobody likes you. Nobody ever has. Nobody ever will. Face it: We have more money, we have more social connections, we know more system administrators, we know more managers, we have people in insurance and investing and banks and in military and in government. We can find you wherever you go.

      And wherever you go there will we be. We will be there just waiting to SHIT ALL OVER ANYTHING YOU DO!

      So KILL YOURSELF Stevie! It's the only thing left for you to do.

      Don't worry little Stevie. You can always run off into the mountains... and then we'll just hunt you down and kill you where there won't be anyone to see, hear, or even care that you're dead.

      Not like anyone ever did anyway. You're so fucking worthless you should have died in a fire a long time ago.

    12. Re:Without Learning? by glindsey · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You do *not* have to be intimately familiar with the low-level details of all the hardware in order to combine it together in a useful way."

      OK, I agree, but simply mashing together some technologies does not an engineer make. Perhaps not, but it's a damned good start. I was just thinking about the world my seven-month-old daughter will be growing up in. Computers are ubiquitous, nearly throwaway, and run extremely complex operating systems that abstract out the hardware as much as possible. Electronics of any complexity require you to use surface-mount components on two or four-layer PCBs, well beyond the breadboard-and-solder level. There's no real analogue to the DOS command line and GW-BASIC I grew up learning to program on. Assuming she grows up being a computer geek like her father (a huge assumption, but still something to consider), what's out there to honestly get her interested in electronics or computing?

      I came up with a concept about a year back that was similar to this, although cheaper and cruder in concept: modules a bit more complicated than Mindstorms, all cubes in shape, communicating and getting power along a sort of wire mesh using a serial protocol favoring fault tolerance over speed. A CPU module could query everything on the bus to see what is connected, get responses back, and interface with a PC, which would present a list of the modules and the functions each of them can provide. (You know, like object-oriented programming, but with physical objects.)

      Unfortunately, I don't have the time, money, or mechanical/electrical skills for such an endeavor, but that's the sort of electronics and programming lab I would have killed for as a kid. You get the cost of each module down to around one to five bucks (depending on the module's capabilities) and you have a totally expandable, programmable building system.
    13. Re:Without Learning? by Abcd1234 · · Score: 1

      OK, I agree, but simply mashing together some technologies does not an engineer make.

      Did anyone say that? No. Nice strawman, though. You knocked it down valiantly.

      I, however, can only assume you are, yourself, an engineer. And evidently a rather defensive one...

    14. Re:Without Learning? by Indiana+Joe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There's no real analogue to the DOS command line and GW-BASIC I grew up learning to program on.

      Maybe on your computer there isn't... but I can double-click Terminal and drop straight into bash. From there I can launch vi/emacs, code in C, Java, perl, python, or ruby, and then compile and launch the program, all from the command line. I admit there isn't a Basic interpreter - should there be one?

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    15. Re:Without Learning? by obarel · · Score: 1

      10 LINE(100,100)-(200,200)

      Now do it in C, Java, perl, python or ruby.

      Then explain it in a single sentence.

    16. Re:Without Learning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Grow up you asshole. I bet you don't understand the minutiae of every single device you use in your work from its interface all the way down to the physics beneath it. There's a little something called abstraction that you must have ignored when you were at school.

    17. Re:Without Learning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yeah, I hope you finish writing your string function "class" (not 'String' of course) before the end of the month. I'll just use the one that exists in the JDK for now...

      Cheers,

      A java developer

    18. Re:Without Learning? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      You forgot the SCREEN 2 to switch to graphics mode. You cannot draw lines in text mode.

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    19. Re:Without Learning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But can you write a simple graphical game from scratch in any of those languages from scratch without resorting to Google or a CS education?

      GW-BASIC was of immense value in making young people (like myself) interested in programming for one reason - it was easy to learn and easy produce results which were flashy and interesting.

      When I was 10, I wrote a program in GW-BASIC which approximated the random swimming behavior of a sea monkey, all using the simple built-in functions and the integrated helpfile. I'd never had any computer science education of any kind - this was 1985.

      Doing the same in Java would probably be easiest out of all the languages you mentioned, and even that would require digging through the impenetrable and massive list of functions in Java, as well as Googling for a few hours to find some good examples which could make clear to you the fundamentals of the language.

      His point was that there isn't that easy little thing sitting there to attract the attention of a child around anymore - at least nowhere near as easy to use.

    20. Re:Without Learning? by Myopic · · Score: 1

      I look dread the new crop of programmers and 'engineers' being 'output' by the educational system.

      Yes, and the English majors being 'output' by the education system look dread you.

    21. Re:Without Learning? by owlstead · · Score: 1

      Uh, it doesn't say that you cannot mess with the internals. If they GPL the software that comes with the hardware, then you have got all the tools for messing with it. You'll have to interface it with Java at some point, but that ain't too hard. And Eclipse and OSGi is a very nice environment to create some serious applications in. 400MHz and MP4 encoders? You won't have too much problems with performance either I presume.

      Furthermore, Java + OSGi do indeed take away lot of pain. But that will just let you focus on the actual application, nothing wrong with that.

    22. Re:Without Learning? by totally+bogus+dude · · Score: 1

      I think the modern equivalent would be a web scripting language; most likely PHP because it has a very low barrier to entry, but any will do.

      It's really easy to start, and you immediately have something "on the internet" which you can show to other people and feel like you're making something cool like all those other web sites you visit.

      As a kid I was into game programming, use Borland Turbo C under MS-DOS. Then I got my very own computer in '96 for my birthday, which came with Win95... and suddenly programming on it seemed mighty difficult. Suddenly everything's buried under layers of APIs, and I didn't know where to look for documentation. At that point, I pretty much gave up programming.

      At the end of that year I discovered Linux, and of course it became very easy to get a web server up and running with a scripting language - and that was pretty exciting. Suddenly I'm a "web programmer"!

    23. Re:Without Learning? by mcrbids · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No need to learn electronics, let other people do it for you. Just snap together the components.

      I look dread the new crop of programmers and 'engineers' being 'output' by the educational system.


      Yeah...

      I suppose you layered the LCD screen on your laptop yourself, cast the engine block on your car yourself out of aluminum and oil-sand, burned a DVD with a pencil laser by hand, and fabricated the CPU of your computer with a blow torch on the beach?

      Come off your high horse, man. As technology progresses, and gets more complex, the complexity of it is buried in abstracted "boxes" with vastly simplified interfaces that make it easier to use. You don't work out the details of range detection for interpersonal radio communication, you pick up your cell phone and dial a telephone number. If you are a programmer, you *might* write to registers, and you *might* understand memory offsets, but it's unlikely that you actually bother computing an offset with any regularity. And neither is particularly beneficial to getting the job done except in very rare cases.

      There's evidence that that's how your mind works - intelligence involves the development of abstract ideas in order to make the cost of computation cheaper. By the time you are conscious of what you are seeing, most of the detail in what you actually see has been stripped out and replaced with vastly simpler, less detailed, abstract ideas.

      You don't see the details of a house as you drive by, you see the abstract idea of "house". The lower layers of your brain have stripped away all the minutiae and replaced the image of the house with the idea of house. It's so effective that even as you are looking at it, if somebody asked you what color the house was, you'd have to take a brief moment to figure it out, first.

      It's not shameful, it's an ordinary part of legitimate progress!

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    24. Re:Without Learning? by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      OK, I agree, but simply mashing together some technologies does not an engineer make.
      An engineers job is to solve a problem in a way that satisfies the requirements of the client and any applicable regulations for an acceptable cost. IMO what defines an engineer is not the levels of the modules they work with but thier skills in combining those modules to create systems that solve problems or larger modules that will be usefull to other engineers.

      Particularlly the computer industry is already heavilly modular, the logic cell designer combines transistors to make logic cells, the chip designer combines logic cells to make chips, the board designer combines chips to make boards, the computer designer combines the boards to make computers and the network/soloution designers combine computers to make networks that serve some function.

      In the engineers mind there must always be the upfront/marginal tradeoff, designing custom boards is expensive so is making small runs of them so you only want to do it if either you have no real choice (say because your soloution needs to be very compact or existing boards doing what you require don't exist at a reasonable price) or you are producing large volume. Custom chip design has even higher upfront costs so it is something that you want to avoid unless you are doing HUGE production runs. A resistor costing 1 cent could potentially be removed by some design adjustments, if you are making a hundred units that is a dollar, hardly worth looking into. On the other hand if you are making a million units that is 10 thousand dollars, enough to cover over a engineer-month in working out how to eliminate it.

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    25. Re:Without Learning? by strfsh5 · · Score: 1

      And you programmed all your apps yourself, in assembly? Of course, on my homebuilt CPU
    26. Re:Without Learning? by aproposofwhat · · Score: 1
      An antebellum Slashdotter?

      Whitworth standardised screws in 1841, and I believe Sellers did the same in the former colonies in 1864.

      Whitworth also designed a rifle which fired hexagonal bullets, accurate at up to 1500 yards (pretty hardcore, even now) - I believe the Confederacy got hold of a few, and had they had more, they might have won :).

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    27. Re:Without Learning? by darkvizier · · Score: 1

      Yes, it's called abstraction. Without it, computer science would be pretty worthless.

    28. Re:Without Learning? by obarel · · Score: 1

      You're absolutely right.

      Even so, it's so much easier than doing the same using the GDI (yes, I know it's extreme, but even in Tkinter it's not that simple).

      And even more so with sound - compare:

      10 SOUND 700, 5

      to ... I don't even know what library can do that without creating an audio file first (doesn't look like SDL can).

    29. Re:Without Learning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a developers forum has been setup at www.bugmodules.co.uk

  9. Stuff of Nighmares by wsanders · · Score: 1

    That big picture at the top is the stuff of friggin' nightmares:

    http://linuxdevices.com/files/misc/buglabs_community_legos-sm.jpg

    "How come I don't hear nothin' when I connect my speakers to my GPS? I tried calling support on the video camera and got no answer!"

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  10. Bugs versus features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    So it truly isn't a bug - it's a feature...

  11. Fantastic by divided421 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Now we can have open-source linux fanatics...graduating from elementary school.

  12. TLG Lego(tm) Bricks? Or BugLabs Bricks? by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 1

    The Lego Group has a trademark on Lego(tm) brand plastic building bricks. Maybe better to call BugLabs' products building bricks?

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  13. Gumstick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These are nice, but at what additional cost over something like the Gumstix (http://gumstix.com/)? For a kid or someone who really does not know computers, etc., these might be good. However for a hobby, I would think the gumstix and similar (even a WRT54GL) would be a cheaper alternative.

    The real proof will be the software and the marketing. If they can get the price low enough and can market it to smart teenagers as the "must have", and if they can get the software easy-enough for entry level developers, it might (should?) succeed.

    1. Re:Gumstick by megaditto · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Gumstix aren't exactly cheap (seems to be in the $100+ range for anything useful).

      It's a little sad that people have to pay that much when all they really need is a $5 PIC and a few throwaway components.

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    2. Re:Gumstick by DrSkwid · · Score: 1

      try an AVR they are pennies not dollars

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  14. Oop! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Douglas Coupland got there first, well sort of anyway.

  15. cool! by larry+bagina · · Score: 1

    I'm the proud owner of a slug (ARM + 32M ram + ethernet + 2 USB ports for $100). I love it, but the memory limits my options. This looks like what I've been dreaming of (excluding NSFW stuff).

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  16. Building blocks need a good foundation by smellsofbikes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Speaking from personal experience, this sort of building-block approach to electronics can let a person down. I've designed a bunch of electronics, small simple chunks that do things like translate a logic-level signal to a relay that can switch ovens or computer-controlled A/D converters. By themselves, they work, but when you start just stacking them together like black boxes, their cumulative errors start to bite you -- or you put in a black box that contains a switching regulator and the line noise on the output wipes out everything downstream. If you don't know what they're actually doing, you don't know what their side-effects are going to be. The amount of post-regulator processing required to make a switching regulator look like a good, pure voltage source would be bulky enough to make that black box significantly less useful, and all that processing might not be required for 95% of possible loads.

    Likewise, my coworkers do analog design of IC's, and even though we have a design reuse library for the company, every design they do is basically ab initio because another similar design does something they don't need and as a result uses up vital silicon space, and they can't simply remove just that bit.

    A talented designer could use building blocks to build something great. A lousy designer could use those same blocks to build something dangerously unsafe -- they facilitate only design, not quality. Speaking as a lousy designer, I think it's a much better idea to actually do the work in analyzing the problem and coming up with an adequate design, and the good designers, in my experience, already *have* a head full of black boxes, for which they understand the limitations and how they interact.

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    1. Re:Building blocks need a good foundation by overshoot · · Score: 1

      Likewise, my coworkers do analog design of IC's, and even though we have a design reuse library for the company, every design they do is basically ab initio because another similar design does something they don't need and as a result uses up vital silicon space, and they can't simply remove just that bit.
      Speaking as one of those analog IC designers, you're about half right. There's a good bit of NIH, too.

      A talented designer could use building blocks to build something great. A lousy designer could use those same blocks to build something dangerously unsafe -- they facilitate only design, not quality. Speaking as a lousy designer, I think it's a much better idea to actually do the work in analyzing the problem and coming up with an adequate design, and the good designers, in my experience, already *have* a head full of black boxes, for which they understand the limitations and how they interact.
      If design were the only obstacle, I might be more in agreement. However, fabrication is quite different today than in the through-hole DIP days I grew up with. Homebrew design and fabrication of multilayer SMT boards is just not feasible, so a realistic experimenter is going to use a relatively standard kit. The alternatives are far too much of the "doing it the hard way just to prove that I can," like smelting your own iron for a backyard smithy.
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    2. Re:Building blocks need a good foundation by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

      Well, okay, I admit I've smelted iron in my back yard... but it's amazing how much you can pack on a two-layer board if you're patient, and circuit board plotters/CNC mills have come down dramatically in price. Once you have that kind of technology, you can start doing multilayer boards by stacking them, if you're willing to deal with the frustrations of having to hand-solder every via (and in the case of stacked boards, not being able to rely on contact on one inside-facing board, although that's okay if it's a shielding ground plane and you can get a wire soldered onto the edge.) But given that you can get multilayer SMT fabbed for you for $30 for a small board, it's hard to justify DIY.
      Obviously it depends on circuit complexity, but designing a recording electrocardiogram that writes FAT32 to a hard drive -- a nice mix of analog and digital -- is easily manageable using homebrew design, free software, and cheap board fab houses.
      (I personally think that SMT is *far* easier to work with than through-hole, but then again I have a cheap stereomicroscope.)

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    3. Re:Building blocks need a good foundation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Saw that happened today. Someone copy & pasted a schematic without understanding what's going on. Some how that also sneaked through design review.

    4. Re:Building blocks need a good foundation by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      But given that you can get multilayer SMT fabbed for you for $30 for a small board
      Where? and how long does it take?

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    5. Re:Building blocks need a good foundation by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

      Cheap 2-layer: http://www.batchpcb.com/ -- 10-12 days, proto: $10 + $2.50 per square inch.
      Cheap multiplayer: http://www.myropcb.com/ -- 21 days, 4-layer: $40 for proto, $0.38 per square inch + $120 setup for large batches.
      Myro will also do flex stuff with copper on polyimide, which is useful and unusual.

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    6. Re:Building blocks need a good foundation by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      right, even the headline price is $9.99 higher than the one you gave earlier. Worse when you look at the conditions It seems you have to order a minimum of four copies of your board and there is a rather high freigt cost as well ($35 just for the US, probabblly more if you are elsewhere).

      so it looks like the minimum price for getting a four layer designed fabbed by them is just under $200. If you are in the uk like I am it will probablly work out substantially higher once the VAT (a $30 package would be under the exememption threshold a $200 one would not) and VAT brokerage fees have been added.

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    7. Re:Building blocks need a good foundation by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

      Yeah, those guys have raised their prices since last time I looked at them. I thought I had another place that'd do it for $30 for a 4-layer but I can't find them right now.
      Do you *need* multilayer for what you're doing? Can you stack two-layer boards? I've done that for proto work and it's worked pretty well if you have through-plated vias. Put your vias on 0.1" centers and use headers for interconnect -- more of a PITA but you can stick a lot of passives on the inside-facing layers, giving you more room on the tops, and that way your decoupling caps are *right* below your IC's. We've had situations where we actually got better performance, inductance-wise and power-loss-wise, using this than with a comparable multilayer using standard vias.

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    8. Re:Building blocks need a good foundation by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      Do you *need* multilayer for what you're doing?
      Not really, I was just querying your price as insanely low for multilayer.

      As you say two layer PTH can be had at tolerable prices if you shop arround enough and are willing to wait a while.

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  17. There are different levels of organisation by Colin+Smith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you're trying to produce an artificial intelligence to run the robot then the low level electronics aren't terribly important to you.

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    1. Re:There are different levels of organisation by wilder_card · · Score: 1

      Ah, but maybe the low-level electronics are important. There are some good arguments that true intelligence can't be produced with standard digital circuits. For one thing, neurons are radically different in operation. I'd find some good links, but my neurons are misfiring at the moment.

    2. Re:There are different levels of organisation by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

      >If you're trying to produce an artificial intelligence to run the robot then the low level electronics aren't terribly important to you.

      Right up until the moment when a power spike caused by a big relay opening causes the robot arm to punch a hole through a wall you used to like...

      Which, granted, is a good time for the observers, but maybe not what the programmer was hoping to accomplish.

      (Under some design circumstances, power relays should have a nearby diode to shunt the back-EMF caused by the relay inductance. If your black box design doesn't happen to include that diode, and you don't think low-level electronics are terribly important, you could find out some very exciting things. I speak from personal experience on this particular subject.)

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    3. Re:There are different levels of organisation by The_reformant · · Score: 1

      If you're trying to produce an artificial intelligence to run the robot then the low level electronics aren't terribly important to you.

      Unless your a behaviourist, or working on neural nets, or interested in embodied intelligence.

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  18. Capsela by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >Capsela! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsella http://www.discoverthis.com/capsela.html

    I think this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsela is what you meant, unless theres really something relevant about the Capsella plant.

  19. Connector problems by Animats · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Brick-like things with multi pin connectors are usually a headache. Either one side of the connector has to float, or you need a very rigid mounting system. Military systems tend to be built with boxes that you shove into a slot, and even with military grade components, heavy latching systems, and high insertion forces, those connectors are a trouble spot. That's why you don't often see things like that in consumer products.

    Cute idea, though, if they get all the mechanical details right.

    1. Re:Connector problems by Siridar · · Score: 1

      Brick-like things with multi-pin connectors like...videogame cartridges? or expansion cards? What about USB keys?

    2. Re:Connector problems by The_reformant · · Score: 1

      Nintendo cartidges are just one consumer example i can think of im sure there are many others. In military applications mario has to carry 80 lbs of equipment on his back making him unable to jump and smash bricks.

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  20. Adult Lego by CheeseburgerBrown · · Score: 0, Troll

    Now there is an idea worthy of speculation -- modular porn.

  21. it'll just be more accessable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    No, it will make 'buliding' stuff available to a larger audience.

    The engineers will still have to learn C, BSIM and low pass filters. The market might insist on hiring cheaper, non-engineers in the positions formerly occupied by engineers, but engineers will still be engineers as long as there is a demand for them.

  22. Pricing by bperkins · · Score: 1

    I've been following this and it looks interesting, but I'm waiting to hear about pricing.

    I'm afraid I'm not going to like what I hear, though.

  23. First release bug free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How's that going to work? The only way they can ship a product bug free is not to ship the product... Maybe their marketing guys should have spent a little more time coming up with a name...

  24. Home automation: the garage just got cheaper by overshoot · · Score: 1
    Keep in mind that this kind of platform is what we need to get useful home automation -- not some beast that requires a WinTel box to have 24/7/365 uptime and outage recovery.

    Currently, the ante is just too high for most home-automation experimentation -- and I speak as one who actually works with the applications department of a semiconductor manufacturer.

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  25. Reminds me of the Gakken Denshi Experimenter's Kit by bitrex · · Score: 1

    This was a big improvement over the Radio Shack kits that used springs and jumper wires.

  26. Could someone explain by slashdotlurker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How does this differ from LabVIEW / G programming ?

  27. Some assembly required by overshoot · · Score: 1

    It's a little sad that people have to pay that much when all they really need is a $5 PIC and a few throwaway components.
    You still have to put that PIC in a circuit. Alternately, you could let Microchip do it for you
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    1. Re:Some assembly required by spinkham · · Score: 2, Informative
      I'd recommend letting Olimex do it for you.
      Spark fun sells nice programmer/dev boards for PICs.

      This one has a built in programmer for $27.95, or
      This one for $15.95 does not.

      Of course, you only need one programmer for multiple projects.
      Both the above have serial port and power supply built in, and space for putting your own components in. If you don't need a serial port, and are comfortable with voltage regulators or have a good bench supply, you need basically nothing in support hardware (besides a programmer), just a proto-board.

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  28. Don't combine the two, VW will sue by DigitalReverend · · Score: 1

    Can you even put a slug and bug together?

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    1. Re:Don't combine the two, VW will sue by jcuervo · · Score: 1

      Can you put organize a LUG for the slug and the bug?

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  29. Misleading title! by StefanJ · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one who, on reading "Lego-like devices target developers" pictured clunky little robots chasing terrified geeks around their labs?

    1. Re:Misleading title! by PoopDaddy · · Score: 1

      Nope, we are now two.

    2. Re:Misleading title! by Smauler · · Score: 1

      I just can't believe I got all the way down to this comment before I realised why I'd clicked on the RSS link in the first place. Then I remembered why I clicked on the link, and was sad that I wasn't going to get to read about our new developer-targeting lego-like robot overlords :(.

  30. Trapper Keeper by Deanalator · · Score: 1

    Anyone else get visions of Cartman's modular Trapper Keeper?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trapper_Keeper_(South_Park_episode)

  31. Official Website by achillean · · Score: 1

    Here's the link to the official website of BugLabs.

  32. corporate funnies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about old Wang laboratories on Pecker road? (littleton mass IIRC)
    There used to be a real funny one in midtown Atlanta (the metrosexual area of town), I kid thee not, S&M Clutch and Brake company.

    1. Re:corporate funnies by aproposofwhat · · Score: 1
      In the UK, Siemens had (maybe still do) an office in Staines, Middlesex.

      It was a joy to call and be answered with the cheery 'Good morning, Siemens Staines!'

      Oh happy days (though those old Siemens PBXs were a pain in the arse...).

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  33. But will it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But will it run Linux?

    1. Re:But will it by andreyvul · · Score: 1

      linux runs on a wristwatch: it's all a matter of time.
      irda keyboard and irda monitor or use one motor port for display and one sensor port for keyboard

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  34. Tagged: by beav007 · · Score: 2, Informative

    itsnotlegosdammit

  35. Yikes! by kputnam · · Score: 1

    First New Robots Hunt Pirates and now LEGOs are targetting developers! We're all doomed!

  36. Tipping point will be interchip USB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The USB-IF is working on an interchip USB spec, so basically, yes you can start stacking IC's together and have a reasonable chance of stuff just working. That's when the whole robotics/sensor fusion/custimization/modding scene will really take off.

  37. microserfs by wakingrufus · · Score: 1

    This is straight out of Microserfs fyi. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microserfs

  38. Target Me by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    I've got a Lego Mindstorms new in the box from last Christmas. I'd pay a developer $50 to make it into something cool that my Bluetooth phone could control. Or entertain requests for more money, if it were cool enough.

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  39. Replicators by tryfan · · Score: 1

    I've often wondered about the OS of the Replicators in Stargate SG-1.
    Now, it's obvious.

  40. Better look out :p by Mathness · · Score: 1

    Linux-Powered Lego-Like Devices: Exterminate, exterminate the devs, exterminate!

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  41. Title? by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

    "Linux-Powered Lego-Like Devices Target Developers"

    Am I the only one who pictured giant LEGO robots armed with rifles shooting at a terrified mob of computer programmers led by Steve Ballmer?

    1. Re:Title? by bob.appleyard · · Score: 1

      No, you weren't. I nearly shat myself when I saw the headline.

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  42. in soviet russia by Gearoid_Murphy · · Score: 1

    lego build you!

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  43. Sunspot is more useful by xristo70 · · Score: 1

    The idea is nice: shift the innovation for electronics to the consumers. In the automotive and aerospace engineering industries, there definately is a need for quick prototyping of electronics parts. But at Buglabs they don't explain well how they could help here. So I think these Buglabs building blocks the coming years probably just will just be used by some researchers. Hard to see also how with a company of 6 people they can provide support and challenge competitors like Sun's Sunspot. The Sunspot parts (Java, not OS) are going to be easier to program and also will be wireless (why do the Buglab parts necessarily have to click together??). So I imagine many more useful applications and much more success for Sunspot.

  44. Oh no ! yet another strife by unity100 · · Score: 1

    Now Lego-like devices target another segment of the modern society ! when will this strife end !

  45. Why wait? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have a look at Virtual Cogs - http://www.virtualcogs.com/ Same concept, much more mature...