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Is a Laser Data Link 1.5 Million Kilometers Feasible?

An anonymous reader writes "On the Canary Islands last week, a team from Oerlikon Space demonstrated the feasibility of a laser link across a distance of 1.5 million kilometers for the first time ever. In the future, laser links like this one will be able to transmit data across huge distances through the universe far more rapidly and efficiently than is possible using conventional radio links today."

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  1. Never saw this coming by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Who would have thought that light could travel such a long distance?

    In all seriousness, the problem is not the knowledge a laser can travel that far; its whether you can create precise enough targeting equipment.
    A radio signal might be more of a splatter, but at least if you point it "over there" with enough power behind it, it will get there.

    As they say their simple hilltop to hilltop test failed because of weather conditions, whats going to happen when they do put 'scopes at the lagrange points?

    "Oh sorry, we can't get the data today because its cloudy"

    Back onto the radio front, we have Voyager 1 which is 15 billion miles away, proven with radio, that would seem good enough for me.

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    1. Re:Never saw this coming by erroneus · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm not sure the space-technology people will be using "aim." If anything, I'd suspect they'd lean to something OSS like "Pidgin."

    2. Re:Never saw this coming by ricosalomar · · Score: 5, Funny
      ...proven with radio, that would seem good enough for me.

      I agree. We should stop all development and research in this area immediately.

      Is there anything else that people are working on that you don't see a need to improve? They should have checked with you first, I guess.

    3. Re:Never saw this coming by vertinox · · Score: 5, Interesting

      As they say their simple hilltop to hilltop test failed because of weather conditions, whats going to happen when they do put 'scopes at the lagrange points?

      Huh? The logical thing do to would be have the laser communicators in orbit, and the communication from ground to the laser satellites would be via the conventional means. If its cloudy in your town, then the satellite can talk to another town which isn't cloudy and you can use fiber to talk the rest of the way.

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    4. Re:Never saw this coming by Kinthelt · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's okay. Even NASA confuses SI with Imperial measurements.

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  2. One important warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do not look into laser with remaining eye.

  3. unfortunately by LM741N · · Score: 5, Funny

    They will all stop at the last mile, rendering the project useless.

  4. Re:Targeting that is going to be a bitch. by meringuoid · · Score: 5, Funny
    now try to do the math on all of the floating bodies and the effect of the gravity from neighboring quasars and other space phenomena.

    If an object 1.5 million kilometres away has a neighbouring quasar, you have bigger worries than communication.

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  5. Re:Question about lasers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It doesn't sound like you know much about mathematics. Please check the relation between the diameter of the laser spot and the power/area ratio, then rethink what the inverse square law actually says.

  6. Laser moon and back feet, more like *miles* by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Correct, they did put corner cubes on the moon (aka retroreflectors, or three mirrored surfaces all at 90 degree angles to one another).

    However, the beam size from a collimated laser is a couple miles across at the moon. Typically, receiving a signal back takes a large telescope which counts single-digit photon returns from a Nd:YAG q-switched laser. It's been almost 2 decades since I worked with the stuff (you might search for Satellite Laser Ranging, Goddard Optical Research Facility and MOBLAS or TLRS) and the units that ranged on the moon cubes were at Mt. Haleakala in Hawaii.

    It was neat stuff, but I remember one of the PIs saying the spot on the moon was the size of Georgetown (a section of Washington DC), though I can't remember exactly now. The outgoing laser was about 4" in diameter.

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  7. Re:A bit exaggerated? by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 5, Funny

    I dunno, I think if they modulated the laser to the harmonic frequency of dilithium they could route the message through a subspace channel on a tachyon carrier wave. This is pretty elementary stuff.