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Fans Cheer as Apple's iPhone Finally Hits Europe
An anonymous reader sent in this article which opens, "Apple fans lined up through Yesterday night in Germany and Britain to be among the first in Europe to buy an iPhone, the must-have gadget that is set to shake up the mobile industry." Over 10,000 phones were sold in Germany by Friday afternoon. In France, however, the iPhone doesn't arrive until the end of month.
I'm sure the fact that Apple will finally have to reveal how much the iPhone will cost unlocked / sans contract has nothing to do with the fact that France is getting it last...
Jerm
Oh, you're not a real doctor, are you?
Glad to see that there are people everywhere who get taken in by glitzy, superficial, overpriced, under-featured gizmos - just because the tech media says they're wonderful.
Is there no hope?
politicians are like babies' nappies: they should both be changed regularly and for the same reasons
That so many are so excited to get an iPhone...
And so few are outraged that that traffic (or at least the connections) will more than likely be logged by the government against the will of the people.
There's no outrage though - we get an iPhone!
Sad.
- The phone will only work as long as Apple wants it to work
- The Phone will cost a fortune to use outside of the local area
- The phone is programmed to check mail and deliver revenue to your service provider even when it is "off"
- The phone is a closed environment, and will probably require several days with a loaner phone, at additional cost, to repair.
- this phone does not have the advanced features that everyone seems to find so critical in other phones, such as user generated custom ringtones.
I am sure there are others, but that is a good start. If you buy Apple products, like I do, it is better to go in with eyes wide open, rather than whine later. Most of these things are beyond the Apple SOP, which is why the iPhone, to me, is not nearly such a great product, but those who do buy it surely can no longer be surprised."She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
In the UK, we're used to getting our phones for free. Now, nobody is expecting to get an iPhone for free, however, this contract does show a marked change... Here, when we take out a phone contract, we get a phone for free ( higher the rate of contract, the more expensive phone you can have ). The carrier will lock you into the contract for usually 12 months ( sometimes now 18 months ), in order to recoup the cost of the phone. That's fair enough, good value, everyone happy. If you *buy* a phone here, you aren't locked into a contract, and can switch provider or have Pay-As-You-Go etc. With the iPhone, you have to *pay* for the phone, *and* you get locked into a min 18 month contract. So what cost is the carrier recouping? The fees it's paying to Apple, that's what. In the first instance, the benefit and the cost-penalty go to the consumer. Fair play. In the second instance, the cost-penalty stays with the consumer, but the benefit moves to Apple. Someone somewhere is rubbing their hands with glee, but it's not the little guy on the street. Sorry, it's a nice shiny device, with a very cool interface, but it's lacking in some important features, and I know a bad deal when I see one.
This is easy to explain. The iPhone brings nothing new to the table in Europe, where all of its features are available generally in other phones, and most are common in any high-end phone. In America, which for some reason appears to be 2-3 generations behind Europe in the mobile phone arena, this isn't true.
iPhone in America = OMFG this phone has everything, even a camera!iPhone in Europe = Pretty, cool, doesn't do X as well as Nokia or Y as well as Sony Ericsson and OMFG the price!
It leads to irrational actions and purchases.
I try to be a fan of as few things as possible, and instead buy on the technical merit.
WHATEVER!
I always assumed it was because the phone was primarily designed for use in the US where 3G doesn't really exist.
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That probably has an awful lot to do with it as well. In fact, it's probably the prime concern. But this way, they can say that the iPhone offers better battery life than the Nokia N95 (8 hours vs. 4 hours, evidently), plus it's a hell of a lot prettier.
But I think the response was perhaps somewhat underwhelming in Europe, because people think that if they are going to buy a phone this cool, it damn well better have 3G. The lack of that is a deal-breaker.
I generally agree that cellphone tech lags in in U.S., but you realize that pretty much the same high-end Nokia and Samsung phones sold in Europe are also sold in the U.S., right?
It's not the phones themselves that are hampering the tech, it's the carriers.
I live in Germany and have been using my unlocked 4GB iPhone since September with my Work provided E-Plus sim card.
I am amazed at prices the expect people in Germany to pay, i mean i payed $299 + tax (i think it was like an additional $17)
when i bought my iPhone in the US (ok so the 8GB was $399) but now they expect people to pay $585!!!
And somehow i know they are not going to reduce the price in two weeks!
Now i know why they call it Rip-Off-Europe, next to a PS3 thats crippled and costs twice as much as in the US/Japan,
this would simply go into my 'like hell i'm paying extra for THAT' list.
But, I'm just glad i bought mine over there, for (at current rates) just 203 Euros.
The iPhone does several things that no other phone in the world does. But that's not the point. Those "super-advanced" European cellphones don't do anything that 5-year-old phones do. Perhaps locate themselves a bit more accurately. Perhaps have a higher-rez camera. Perhaps have a faster Internet connection with a half-baked "web browser".
The point is that the iPhone does mostly what other phones do in a new way. The phone works like a cellphone would if it had just been invented, unlike other cellphones which are essentially a lot of bling and tech-spec thrown onto foundation/philosophy from 10 years ago. And that's why the iPhone is all that. And that's why you'll read reviews on European sites that say things like "my head says no, but my heart says yes." The iPhone makes sense, and has a unique feel, even if it falls short in certain individual categories.
In terms of actual new things, the iPhone has visual voicemail. All of those other "advanced" phones have voicemail that works like a 1970's cassette-tape answering machine.
The iPhone has a proximity sensor to turn off its light and touch surface when it's next to your face on a call. (Perhaps other phones do this. I have not seen or read that any do.) It has accelerometers so it knows what way it's facing (landscape or portrait), which may actually exist in other phones, but is certainly not widespread. The iPhone has a consistent, fingers-only interface with things like pinch and stretch (which are unique).
Just look at how you move through photos or through tabbed web pages: they made it work the same. Other phones don't even have real web browsers, much less tabbed web browsers, much less one where they've rethought how you move between tabs so it's clean and consistent with the rest of the phone.
In the end, I'm glad to hear the naysayers. The more the better -- up to a point -- for my stock investment. Apple stock does so well because so many people underestimate Apple. "Death spiral", "iPod-killer", "iTunes-killer", "nothing new iPhone", "market share too small and can't grow", "no halo effect", etc, etc.
(Not to mention this is iPhone 1.0 and it's competing against Nokia 15.0 (or whatever) and Windows mobile 6.0 (?). Not that much different from the initial iPods, which did not exceed then-current MP3 players in many aspects, but did do it in a more stylish and polished way.)
The iPhone isn't about features. Of course, other phones have camera's and music players and whatnot. The iPhone is about getting it right. I have a simple Samsung phone. I picked it because I wanted a phone with a music player and a decent amount of storage. When I got it, I realized that feature listings aren't everything. The interface is impossibly complicated, the music player is enormously whimsical, it's impossible to get it to play a specific playlist, once it's playing you can't turn it off, file transfer between phone and computer works only if you're lucky and, well, the list goes on and on.
That's why the iPhone is different. It not only has the features, but they're designed to be used. They got it right. The iPhone really is beautiful and exceptional, not because of all its features, but because of how they work and how well they work. Most phones are designed to be bought, the iPhone is designed to be used.
> In the UK, we're used to getting our phones for free.
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What is happening is that you are paying for the phone by taking out a loan, and then that loan gets repaid over 18 or 12 months in the form of fees that are higher than they are at other companies where you do not get a phone. This may be a good deal, and it should be evaluated the same as any other kind of loan. It is certainly not free!
Bjarke Roune
Treo 3G Blazer and Windows Mobile 3G? I haven't even heard of them, or heard of anybody else use them. Actually I haven't seen anybody use any Treo nor any Windows Mobile device. If you want a true 3G phone then you take one phone from Nokia or Sony-Ericsson.
When talking about how iPhone with EDGE beats down 3G, I won't buy that. When you have good 3G networks that are not congested, as they usually aren't, 3G and especially with HSDPA there is no question which network connection blasts the other. It should also be noted that EDGE and 3G are not competing technologies, usually all 3G phones, and all Nokias 3G phones, have also GPRS and EDGE capabilities that they fall back when they fall from 3G network.
All the talk about EGDE beating 3G is just a symptom on the poor condition of US 3G networks. Outside the US the 3G networks really work as they are intended. Actually they are currently starting to phase out older networks, just in this week in example it was notified here in Finland that parts on 900mzh that has been used only with GSM can no be used with 3G.
Also about the bluetooth connection and syncing... really... ca'moon... it works. Just once try with a real phone.
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The iPhone does several things that no other phone in the world does.
Yes, in the etch-a-sketch app, you can shake it to erase the screen. That's pretty cool... if you're three.
In terms of actual new things, the iPhone has visual voicemail.
VV was around before the iphone (CallWave, Simulscribe) and Google/GrandCentral's implementation works on any phone currently, for free. It's just not that hard to do.
Other phones don't even have real web browsers, much less tabbed web browsers
Opera *invented* tabbed browsing - it's been around a lot longer than you think. And the neat Mobile Safari zooming effect? That was on ThunderHawk.
Da Blog
How would it not be legal?
What would be illegal about using your iphone with your european phone contract?
Nothing, that's what. Apple might like to make it illegal, but that's a different matter.