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Even the Masseuse is a Multimillionaire at Google

PCOL writes "The NY Times is running a story on how stock options that have given an estimated 1,000 employees at Google a net worth of $5 million each affects the culture at Google. Google gives each of its new employees stock options, as well as a smaller number of shares of Google stock, as a recruiting incentive. The average options grant for a "Noogler" (new Google employee) who started a year ago was 685 shares at a price of roughly $475 a share which at last Friday's close would be worth $128,000. But employees say Google is different from other large high-tech companies where the day's stock price is a fixture on many people's computer screens. "It isn't considered 'Googley' to check the stock price," said one engineer adding that it is also considered unseemly to discuss the price with other employees. And the masseuse? In 1999 Bonnie Brown answered an ad for an in-house masseuse at Google "on a lark" and after five years of kneading engineers' backs, she retired, cashing in most of her stock options to travel the world, oversee a charitable foundation she founded, and write a book, still unpublished, titled "Giigle: How I Got Lucky Massaging Google.""

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  1. Cash them in!!! by night_flyer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dont get to greedy with the stock options, just before WorldCom went on its downward spiral some people were bragging about their options and what they were worth, some had been with the company for 10+ years, in the end they lost almost everything

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    1. Re:Cash them in!!! by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 2, Informative

      People forget how to make money in stock. Buy low and sell high. They tend to hold when it's high thinking they are going to be richer.. I keep sell orders in and smile when they hit my prices. I sold a bunch 3 weeks ago and sold some more last week when it peaked. If the price dips enough, I'll buy back some at lower prices. Often I can increase my holding by 20% in a month this way, or pocket 20% of my holdings and wind up rebuying the same amount of my original shares. I love it when the market moves up and down. That is how to make money.

      If you're in it short term, you'd do better to gamble with options. Do volatility spreads.

      I mean seriously, how the heck can you tell if a company is "low" or "high" within a 3 week period? (unless they release earnings that really uncover things---like they did with Citi).

      Is $600 `high' for google? Is $800? How about $700? Or $400?

      Tip: Everyone can make money in a bull market, and all the short term buy-low/sell-high strategies tend to stop working in the worst possible moment.

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    2. Re:Cash them in!!! by DerekLyons · · Score: 2, Informative

      An index fund is just barely this side of gambling itself - so I cover myself by having half my money in an index, and the other half in a managed fund.

  2. Re:The next... by mrscorpio · · Score: 5, Informative

    I know you're an AC troll, but I've seen this attitude from many. How can you judge the worth of their stock (or their company) by the share price? What if there were only 1,000 shares outstanding, would they be worth $600 per share then? A company isn't under- or overvalued because of share price, it is because of its overall MARKET CAPITALIZATION, i.e. share price * #shares outstanding.

    Google seems to be employing the same technique as Berkshire Hathaway (Warren Buffet), i.e., never split the stock. The benefits of doing this is that your stock price is less subject to the "churn" associated with dime-a-dozen 401(k) "day traders" who don't understand that $600 * 1 == $25 * 24.

    I have no opinion either way on the value of Google stock as I haven't looked at the numbers, but it's viewpoints like yours (coming out of ignorance) that cause the boom and bust stories in the market. Find good companies at a good price run by good management (the unstated part of this is that to figure out these points, it needs to be a company in an industry you understand), then buy and hold until those factors change. That's all there is to it. Most investors don't have the patience to implement such a method, which is why you can be told how to make money and it still works. And if you doubt me, ask Benjamin Graham, Warren Buffet, and Peter Lynch how it worked for them.

  3. Re:Sure by saforrest · · Score: 4, Informative

    My former company (a producer of math software) had a once-a-month onsite subsidized massage service. When I asked about it once, our HR person made a special point of emphasizing it was a chair massage, done over regular work clothes. Apparently they had once done a table massage (also over clothes) and there was some complaints that it the table made it "weird".

    But hey, all the power to 'em. I think people that uptight are likely the ones who need a massage the most.

  4. Re:Cash them in!!! Really Remember FreeMarkets by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 3, Informative
    If you exercise the stock option and sell immediately, you are paying taxes on the real gains. Since you held the instrument for less than one year (less than one day really) your gains will be deemed to be income and you will pay income tax. If you exercise and hold the stock for a year and then sell you will only pay capital gains tax on the real gain. So it is tempting to exercise, and hold the stock for a year and sell saving on taxes.

    But, when you exercise the stock, the difference between market price and the exercise price is counted as your "gain" for the purposes of Alternative Minimum Tax. Though you have not sold anything and you have not seen any money and the gain is merely a paper gain, it is counted as taxable for AMT. If you follow this path and pay the AMT and the stock falls and you sell it at a lower price, you can claim a loss. You cost basis for the stock will the market price used in AMT calculation. So if it falls you could recover the excess tax you have paid. But still it is not a simple calculation of 33% income tax vs 20% capital gains tax. It is 33% tax in AMT + 20% capital gains on further gains in the next year or 100% of the loss in the next year. It is more complex to calculate and judge. Play it simple, get money into your pocket and pay the tax on actual realized gain.

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  5. More about Bonnie Brown by AngD · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can read more about Bonnie and read excerpts from her hilarious book, Giigle, at her Web site: www.GiigleBook.com

    1. Re:More about Bonnie Brown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I realize that, as her agent, it's your job to promote her and your book proposal, but just for the record: Bonnie Brown was not "the in-house masseuse" for Google, as stated on your book proposal web site. She was one of two original Google massage therapists, and the other one, who actually won the application process that Ms. Brown finished second in, went on to manage the Google massage program and expand it to 40 massage therapists working in more than a dozen offices on three continents. (Yes, she's a friend of mine.)

      Good job, by the way, getting the New York Times to bite on your story. Front page with a picture, no less; that's really excellent agenting (I'm not being sarcastic).