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OLPC Launches Buy One, Give One Free Program

Tha_Big_Guy23 writes "For the first time, and for a limited period only, people in North America will be able to get their hands on the XO, MIT professor Nicholas Negroponte's rugged little laptop that's designed specifically for children. And for each cutting-edge XO purchased in the West, another will be given to a child in a developing country. For $399, customers can order a laptop for themselves; bundled into the price is the cost of delivering a second XO to a child a poor country."

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  1. Other options? by ScorpFromHell · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With so many other options for low cost linux based laptops coming up, how many would lap up the XOs? Yeah some geeks & some philanthropists ... the tech loving & God fearing maybe ... but will it sell like the Dells?

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    1. Re:Other options? by AmaDaden · · Score: 4, Informative
      Yeah that's about right. I just ordered one. Here are my numbers right from the confermation email. But I think the sipping might be for my laptop not the one being donated. It was calculated after I entered my address

      Payment Details Item Price: $399.00 USD
      Total Shipping: $24.95 USD
      Total: $423.95 USD
      Order Description: G1G1 program donation
    2. Re:Other options? by Etyenne · · Score: 4, Informative

      I have held both an XO and an Eee in my hands (and a ClassMate, too), and the XO clearly beat the competition in term of built and robustness. It was built expressly for the purpose of surviving usage poor condition (dust, humidity, heat) and are totally centered around the needs of kids, while the Eee and ClassMate where built to be a shrunk-down imitation of full-sized laptop and be as cheap as possible.

      As an adult, I prefer the Eee though, mostly because I do not like the XO rubberized keyboard.

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    3. Re:Other options? by mspohr · · Score: 4, Informative
      I think you've missed the point of the OLPC. It's not about a 'low cost linux laptop'. It's a computer designed for group work (mesh network), rugged to take abuse, daylight viewable screen, and educational software.

      "It's an education project, not a laptop project." -- Nicholas Negroponte

      If you want a cheap laptop, buy the Asus or Dell for $400+. If you want an educational computer designed for kids, buy the OLPC.

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    4. Re:Other options? by grumbel · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My main reason for wanting a OLPC XO is that it can be used as eBook Reader, i.e. the screen can be rotated and the thing converted into a tablet, none of the other cheap laptops I have seen so far allow that, heck, even the non-cheap laptops don't allow that, only the really expensive ones. And all the special eBook reader are far more expensive then the OLPC XO. The only other device that seems to come close is the Nokia N770/N800/N810, but they are all rather small.

      When it comes to selling, we have to wait and see. Currently the OLPC isn't even sold by normal means, you can buy two for the price of one, but only when you are in the USA and only when you order it in the next two weeks or so, which kind of limits it to how many people can buy one.

      I'd love to buy one, but I guess I have to wait a little longer till its even available here in germany.

  2. More information... by kebes · · Score: 3, Informative

    For those interested, here's a link to the actual order page.

    The two laptops will cost $399.00 USD, and shipping is $24.95 USD (for a total of $423.95 USD). Open to residents of US and Canada only. Paypal is the default payment option (credit cards are also accepted). Of that, $200 is considered a tax-deductible donation. Your contribution also gets you 1 year of free Wi-Fi access at T-Mobile hotspots.

    The website says that they will try to deliver the laptop before the holidays, but that initial supplies are limited (TFA says 40,000 units in this first month, with 20,000 ready before Christmas), so if you're keen to get one of these things, you should order sooner rather than later.

    I'm certainly curious to see how many orders get put in. If a large number of geeks buy these things as hacking toys, then they could very well become the best platform for a variety of tasks. For example, maybe this will finally be a viable e-book reader (portable, rugged, long battery life, display that can be used in ambient light, etc.). Should be interesting.

  3. Re:North America has poor folks too! by 8tim8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Though I do not underestimate the level of need in the so called "poor" world, I wonder why the OLPC folks think everyone in America can afford this PC.

    Um, is there a statement from the OLPC people where they say that everyone in NA can afford one? It seems to me that they only said that individuals in NA can buy one, if they want. There is no comment about the "material prosperity" of everyone on this continent.

    Now that I think about it, the title of your comment is "North America has poor folks too!" yet you only reference [the United States of] America. There are a couple of other countries on this continent, too, don't forget.

  4. Re:North America has poor folks too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, America does have poor people, but many of them will balk at the idea of having to crank their laptop to get it running.

  5. Re:Nice Chance for a Donation by tb3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Maybe you went to the wrong site, but it's quite obvious here. $399 for two laptops, one is given to a child in a developing nation. The cost of the second laptop is considered a charitable donation and is tax-deductible. The T-Mobile info is on that page, too.

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  6. Re:North America has poor folks too! by kebes · · Score: 5, Informative

    I wonder why the OLPC folks think everyone in America can afford this PC. OLPC is a non-profit who will sell large shipments of XO laptops to any educational customer requesting them. Nothing stops the US from putting in an order for a bunch of laptops for underprivileged children. In fact, apparently Massachusetts and Maine are already involved.

    Yes, OLPC is focusing their efforts on third-world countries, but also the US education system is mostly ignoring OLPC. The "why" is fairly simple: it's not because US children do not deserve a good education, and not because they wouldn't benefit from computer access. But, the fact is that the US is structured such that OLPC may not be the "best fit." For instance many libraries in the US have computers in them, and many schools do also. It would appear that in the US the effort is being put into these kinds of educational resources. Whether or not that is the best way to spend US education dollars is of course up for debate.

    But it's not really fair to imply that OLPC is ignoring US education. As I said, educational institutes in the US are free to make a case for funding such projects. OLPC will gladly ship the units.
  7. XO black market by sakdoctor · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can't I just buy one for myself and let the volume productions reduce the price for everyone?
    I bet if they tried the freemarket approach they could get the retail price down to, oh I don't know, maybe 100USD. They could name it "the $100 laptop"

    No? Oh ok, I'll just have to buy two Eee PCs for the same amount.

  8. Won't make as much impact. by Nursie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    US society already has high technology. Giving a poor kid an OLPC in North America may help him or her. Giving a poor kid an OLPC in someplace where they don't have computers available at the library down the street (which the kid never goes to because his parents and peers think libraries are for geeks and morons) will help that kid interface with the modern world and help bring up the whole country.

    Now, I'm not saying poor folks in developed countries brought it upon themselves, or are willfully poor, but I do think that there is greater room for improvement across populations as a whole in other places.

  9. Guaranteed? by InvisblePinkUnicorn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is it guaranteed that my purchase will be matched by the delivery to a child, or am I simply throwing my money into a huge black pit, in the hopes that the number of people who buy one in the US will be the same as those delivered to children, apart from their already-planned deliveries?

  10. Re:Is this really a good idea? by kebes · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm sure that this has probably shown up in other OLPC arguments, but is this project really what the Third World needs? That is an oft-cited criticism, and not without merit. However, no one is arguing that OLPC will bring about instantaneous change on its own. Certainly this ambitious project is meant to work in concert with other efforts to help these nations.

    First, it should be noted that OLPC is targeting developing nations where there is some momentum to improve things, but where access to technological resources and information are limiting growth. They are not focusing on the "desperately poor" countries where starvation is the overriding concern (take a look at the participating countries). Second, the XO laptops are meant to work side-by-side with other forms of relief, aid, education, and infrastructure improvement.

    Saying "why bother with OLPC when people are starving?" is like saying "why bother sponsoring a local child to go to a swimming competition when people are starving?" We can simultaneously be philanthropic in different ways to different groups. Moreover, focusing only on the "most dire" problems (and ignoring everything else) is not a good way to help the world as a whole develop into a safer, more equitable place. So, I view OLPC as a part of the overall puzzle: a positive step that can be implemented in some countries, and which will help stimulate those countries to become more prosperous and independent.
  11. Re:Is this really a good idea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes it is.
    I sponsor a teacher in a school in South Eastern Madagascar. By this, I mean that I pay for her board & lodgings. The government pays her salay (approx $500/year) I have done this for the past 4 years.
    The village where she teaches is 4 hours by 4WD vehicle to the nearest tarmaced road. They have plenty of food, clean fresh water etc. What they lack is the rest of the things that connect them with the outside world. There is 1 TV in the village. I supplied it alone with a solar panel, some car batteries and an inverter. They have a pirated Satellite encoder and can now stay in touch with the outside world. The thirst for knowledge of the children is fantastic. If I were in the US I would buy several of these units for the village.
    The lack of infrastructure(ie no Electricity) is irrelevant for the OLPC. That said, next year I'm hoping to get a small water turbine installed and connected up to a generator. They will have electric light for the first time. Then we can start to make changes to the houses so that the epidemic of lung diseases can be tackled. This is due to the houses not having chimneys and all cooking is done over an open charcoal fire.
    I visited the village again in October. I took supplied of pencils and paper (bought in-country) I also took pictures of the children and printed them out in front of them. They took them home to very proud parents.
    The OLPC concept will help bridge the gap between the 1st world and the bottom parts of the 3rd world.

  12. Re:USA? Black Friday... by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You seem to be under the faulty impression that the OLPC laptop is meant to teach children how to use computers. It actually tries to teach them far more basic (and important) skills than that; reading, writing, math, etc. Things that will give these children a way to earn money and escape poverty in the future. That they'll also be able to learn about computers and the internet is just a bonus but irrelevant to whether the OLPC will be succesfull.

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  13. Re:North America has poor folks too! by magarity · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Though I do not underestimate the level of need in the so called "poor" world
     
    The 'poor' in America are ONLY poor in relative terms. In China, which has an up and coming boom economy, I saw people living in such abject poverty and squalor that I can't even imagine how crappy it must be in Saharan Africa where apparently people have it really rough. Panhandlers at the traffic lights here in the US have it easy compared to 95% of the 'working class' people I saw there. However, even the poorest Chinese was busting butt to better their circumstances and even the most ignorant understood that education for the children was the best way to better the entire family. How many of the poor in the US understand that vs how many understand how to wait for the next handout? Sorry, but I've worked too much with the poor in the US and become completely disillusioned with any romantic notions of how all they need is a little more 'help'. They need the help withdrawn so they'll have a little motivation.

  14. Re:Too late by porcupine8 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Considering I've been hearing about the OLPC constantly for years so it's permanently etched in my brain, and this post is the first I've heard of the Asus one, I don't think the upstaging has gone very well.

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  15. Re:I ordered one. by Portfolio · · Score: 3, Informative

    They haven't had a built-in hand crank since the first prototype. The North American ones will come with a standard wall adapter. They are exploring all sorts of power generation ideas, such as a yo-yo shaped pull cord generator. Check here for many of the other ideas.

  16. Looks like a great first computer to me by fhmiv · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I'm buying one for my 3-year-old. I can see several advantages to this approach over other laptops. First, I can give her a rugged computer that actually works, something she will surely like as she sees her mom and I using our laptops all the time, and kids learn a lot by imitation. Second, I can continue teaching her about philanthropy - we bought one for her and one for someone else who could use one but can't afford it. Third, to counter the arguments about the US educational system ignoring the OLPC, education begins in the home.

    As a programmer, I look forward to seeing the software efforts that are built atop this platform. There's plenty of room for free educational software for kids and this looks like a good platform for it. Surely someone will port the platform stack to a standard Linux distro, and then any software you write for this, you can run on your PC you bought at Wal-Mart.

    Cheers, Frank

  17. Re:Forget the North Americans - sell to Europe! by north.coaster · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's a pointer to a method for ordering one if you are located outside the USA and Canada.

    There are also reports that folks in Europe have been able to place orders by phone. This would only work for phone orders - the web site (PayPal) only allows USA and Canadian shipping addresses.

  18. Re:I ordered one. by Falkkin · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yeah, it's hidden in their wiki:

    http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Give_One_Get_One

    Will the North American Laptops include any human-power system?

    no.

  19. Re:I ordered one. by Squiggle · · Score: 3, Informative

    The pullstring hand generation unit (that is designed to go with the OLPC) is from Potenco: http://www.potenco.com/

    Unfortunately you'll have to join the mailing list (http://www.potenco.com/contact-us) to find out about availability since they are focusing on the kids (away from the grid) first.

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