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NPD Reverses Console Numbers Decision

The wailing and gnashing of teeth from the game-playing media seems to have gotten through to the NPD group. Despite earlier statements to the contrary, it looks like for the time being they plan to continue to release console sales figures to the press at large. Next Generation reports: "NPD Group's David Riley admitted in an e-mail Monday, 'Honestly, it was terribly naive of me to think that we could simply stop providing these after giving them freely for a year ... Nothing is going to change. All will remain the same ... The 'Big Three' [Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony] are on board, so we'll be providing these figures indefinitely.'"

23 comments

  1. Oh thank god by davidbrit2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    For a minute there, I was afraid the console flame wars would have to rely on blind speculation.

    1. Re:Oh thank god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, heaven forbid people actually buy what they consider fun instead of jumping on bandwagons.

    2. Re:Oh thank god by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      For a minute there, I was afraid the console flame wars would have to rely on blind speculation.

      Now, it would remain the same myoptic or astigmatic speculation as it was for the last year. I think each platform has its strengths such that I don't thing this bandwagoneering does anyone any good - just get what you want and don't participate in the muckraking.

    3. Re:Oh thank god by stormguard2099 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think your forgetting the population that thinks jumping on bandwagons is fun

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    4. Re:Oh thank god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Consoles with higher numbers:
      * Make business sense to target for games: similar development costs for a larger potential market (programming is a small part of development costs)
      * Have more games and as such have more developers trained on the platform, so they can push towards elegance and extracting more power from the same hardware faster than others
      * A more veteran world-wide development encourages those consoles with high numbers to become the "de-facto" standard from which ports to other systems are made, usually without recompensating for the weaknesses of the dominant system not necessarily present on the target system
      * A console with healthy support is less likely to get quickly discontinued, abandoned, or replaced (look at Jaguar, Dreamcast, original XBox, in order of increasing survival time before each of the aforementioned fates).

      With all that, jumping on a bandwagon of the winning team is good move if you like more variety and assurance that you're not going to have your games relegated to that "back-shelf" of the store.

    5. Re:Oh thank god by perffectworld · · Score: 1

      Flame wars are fun but... I'm a compulsive gambler and it's companies like NPD that make my days a little less black. When sports are just not cutting it, and the firing pool at work just isn't panning out, NPD has consistently been there to rescue the day. My friend Ted, on the other hand, hates NPD. It may have something to do with his old dog Spotty now being my new dog Spotty, after Nintendo came through and kicked Sony in the number-nuts in NPD league, but I'm not sure, he says it's because of consumer culture, or some such crap but I don't believe him. I think its because he misses Spotty.

    6. Re:Oh thank god by bdjacobson · · Score: 1

      I think your forgetting the population that thinks jumping on bandwagons is fun Well what else am I supposed to define myself as? I have no personality!

      O look A&F has a shirt sale today.
  2. "Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony indefinitely" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One can go away and something else can take its place.

    I.E, from Sega to Microsoft.

    Maybe the next one will be Sony to Google?

  3. Once again, gaming drives the software industry... by argent · · Score: 1

    NPD has played this game of teasing segments of the software industry with figures before... a few years back it was handhelds, and for a little while you could watch Palm and Microsoft and Sharp and the rest fight it out... but when they pulled the numbers there wasn't a peep.

    Gamers, however, they're big business, and a noisy one. They don't go quietly away when you say "no".

  4. Good advertisement. by Aladrin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is great advertisement for them. Since all they DO is market research, giving away some was a good idea... Taking it away and then giving it back was even better. Just brilliant.

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  5. Re:Once again, gaming drives the software industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gamers, however, they're big business, and a noisy one. They don't go quietly away when you say "no".

    You're absolutely right. It's almost like they stomp their feet and throw a temper tantrum...

  6. Re:Once again, gaming drives the software industry by tomhudson · · Score: 1

    Or maybe there was a big to-do for about 3 days ... then nothing ...

    And they figured "Holy shit - we'd better pretend this is a big deal and the sheeple are still whining about it, otherwise we'll fade into obscurity!"

    I mean really, did anyone care after the first week?

  7. 4 of 1 comments by Daimanta · · Score: 1

    Woah, NPD also the comment number decisions?

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  8. All it takes is one leak by Alzheimers · · Score: 1

    All it takes is one leak from Joe Nobody's blog and all these numbers they're trying to assign a value to will suddenly be open to the public anyway. So instead of building up all this bad karma with their customer base, it makes sense to give the general numbers out and keep the juicy stuff "premium", the boring facts and figures your average Xbox fanboy doesn't care about as long as he can rant about how the PS3 isn't selling as much.

    So your armchair economist fanboy blogs get to overhype and exaggerate every nuance of the basic sales figures, NPD comes off looking like mysterious but benevolent database gods, and the industry keeps on churning out more sequels to the Sims and Madden.

    Everybody wins, right?

  9. Its funny by Tridus · · Score: 5, Funny

    From TFA:
    "The widespread backlash took NPD games researchers by surprise."

    And "Honestly, it was terribly naive of me to think that we could simply stop providing these after giving them freely for a year."

    Anybody else find it funny that a market research firm was surprised by reaction to changes in its market?

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    1. Re:Its funny by argent · · Score: 1

      Not really. They've released teasers and pulled them before, and didn't get the kind of response this decision raised.

    2. Re:Its funny by Gravatron · · Score: 1

      NPD numbers had become a weekly thing for gamers, and quite a bit of commentary was put into each weeks numbers. It was neat to see the effects of a major title, marketing push, price cut, etc, in real sales numbers.

  10. Free information by Lulfas · · Score: 1

    The fact they couldn't predict that the general public didn't want to lose access to information is astounding. There is no greater way to make someone want something than to restrict it.

  11. How big is the noisy minority. by argent · · Score: 1

    Every group, genre, industry sector, what have you, has a noisy minority. There were similar complaints when NPD pulled their handheld market share figures, but it didn't have an impact on their decision.

    If the noisy minority is big enough to have this effect, that's significant.

  12. Excuse me by gumpish · · Score: 1

    but what the fuck is an NPD?

    1. Re:Excuse me by metroid+composite · · Score: 2, Funny

      National Purchase Diary.

      No, seriously.

    2. Re:Excuse me by brkello · · Score: 1

      Hand in your Slashdot card and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Come on...we can use Google here and we have been looking at NPD numbers for years. :)

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    3. Re:Excuse me by Thanshin · · Score: 1

      It's the Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands.

      Godwin at it's subtlest.