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Russian Police Seize Kasparov

An anonymous reader writes "Russian police seized Garry Kasparov, the Russian chess champion, for staging a political rally against Vladimir Putin. IBM's Deep Blue computer was the first to beat a world champion when it defeated Kasparov, who is one of the strongest players in history." He's also been a giant critic of the Russian administration which is increasingly restricting free speech.

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  1. obigatory joke by 2.7182 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Checkmate!
    Seriously, this sucks.

    1. Re:obigatory joke by sentientbeing · · Score: 5, Funny

      He's obviously just a pawn in all this.

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    2. Re:obigatory joke by SlashThat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually this might benefit Kasparov's cause. He's a respected person both in Russia and abroad, and a move like this could provoke a stronger protest against Putin. I trust Kasparov has calculated this 6 moves ahead :)

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    3. Re:obigatory joke by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I can't say for the other countries, but here in Russia most people do not appreciate Kasparov as a politician. That might have something in common with Putin's high approval rating.

    4. Re:obigatory joke by Kiffer · · Score: 5, Funny

      I was gonna say
      In Soviet Russia, Kasparov seizes you!
      but that does not really apply.


      In Soviet Russia, Pawns seize Kasparov!

      sigh... I had to say it ...
    5. Re:obigatory joke by einhverfr · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I am not so sure about this. Kasparov's "fear-mongering" about the end of democracy in Russia seem more fact based than one might otherwise think.

      Look, I am not saying that Russia doesn't have the right to choose a system which trades central control over infrastructure development and management of the country instead of one which safeguards individual liberty. This is a choice for Russians alone and I don't think we should interfere with that part itself. However, when Putin starts assassinating dissidents outside of Russia, then he crosses a line which makes him pretty clearly a problem everyone in the world has to face. We *should* have done this when Litvinenko was assassinated with polonium from a Russian nuclear reactor. Maybe this will help people start to realize the danger that Putin poses outside Russia.

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  2. Don't Worry by Zeinfeld · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't worry. George Bush has looked at Putin's soul and pronounced it excellent.

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    1. Re:Don't Worry by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

      We can only assume he was comparing it to his own, in which case Putin's is excellent.

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    2. Re:Don't Worry by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Funny

      -1: Woosh.

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    3. Re:Don't Worry by fastest+fascist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      3. It was an honest opinion, expressed in support of a guy doing things how Bush would like to, if he could.

  3. Re:another obligatory joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    First beaten by Blue, then by Red. For someone who spent the vast majority of their life pondering black and white, this has to be shocking splash of color.

  4. In Soviet Russia by EaglemanBSA · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In Soviet Russia, they sieze dissidents. What, you were expecting a joke? 'Cuz this isn't funny.

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    1. Re:In Soviet Russia by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In Putin's Russia, they seize dissidents.
      In Soviet Russia, they shoot dissidents.
      Not quite there yet, guys.

    2. Re:In Soviet Russia by M.+Baranczak · · Score: 4, Informative

      In Putin's Russia, they seize dissidents.
      In Soviet Russia, they shoot dissidents.
      Not quite there yet, guys. Where have you been? Putin's been killing dissidents for a long time. Ever heard of Anna Politkovskaya?
    3. Re:In Soviet Russia by einhverfr · · Score: 4, Informative

      And another dissident investigating her death is poisoned with Polonium...

      But Politkovskaya was no mere political dissident. She had been prevented from mediating an end to the standoff in Beslan but was poisoned on her way there. This lead her to accuse Putin of direct involvement in the school massacre. Soon after this, she is shot dead. Litvinenko, on investigating her death, is then poisoned with Polonium from a Russian nuclear reactor.

      Even if Politkovskaya's allegations of Putin's involvement in the Beslan massacre turn out to be inaccurate, the subsequent assassination of both her and Litvinenko can only be called state sponsor of terrorism.

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  5. gratuitous IBM inclusion by gargletheape · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Surely a story about the greatest chessplayer of all time, and a key campaigner for civil liberties in Soviet Russia counts as "news for nerds" without some Deep Blue window-dressing. Do we really need to fake-tag this story as being about supercomputers to get it here?

    1. Re:gratuitous IBM inclusion by tverbeek · · Score: 4, Informative

      Adding that he's a "giant critic" of the Putin government is an improvement, but how about the fact that Kasparov is an actual candidate for president, hoping to be elected head of that government in March? This is akin to arresting Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.

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    2. Re:gratuitous IBM inclusion by Elemenope · · Score: 5, Interesting

      In 2004, the Libertarian and Green candidates for President of the United States were arrested for attempting to enter the building in which the presidential debates were being held.

      Yes, it is that serious, and, yes, it does happen here.

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    3. Re:gratuitous IBM inclusion by turgid · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And here in good old Blighty, let us not forget the frail, old Holocaust survivor who got arrested under Anti-Terrorism laws for shouting, "Nonsense," at a Labour Party conference.

      Keep on rockin' in the Free World.

  6. The Kremlin Plays Brutal Chess by reporter · · Score: 5, Informative
    Unfortunately for Gary Kasparov, the Kremlin plays brutal chess.

    According to a report recently issued by Reuters, the leading political candidate representing the liberal anti-Kremlin Yabloko party has been shot by an unknown assailant. The candidate is now in serious condition in a hospital. This attempted assassination caps a year-long effort, by the Kremlin, to rig the parliamentary election on December 2. Under orders from the Kremlin, banks have refused to accept donations from supporters for deposit in the accounts of opposition parties. Owners of assembly halls have canceled contracts allowing opposition politicians to stage rallies. The police have seized the newspapers of opposition parties in a draconian attempt to prevent them from spreading their message.

    In early November, the election-monitoring arm of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) declined to send election observers to Russia to monitor the 2007 parliamentary election. This OSCE decision resulted from (1) the Kremlin's refusing to allow more than 70 OSCE observers to enter Russia and (2) the Kremlin's delaying the granting of visas to them. In 2003, the Kremlin had accepted 400 OSCE observers, but after the OSCE condemned the 2003 election for being unfair, many folks in the Kremlin vowed to stymie OSCE's efforts in future elections.

    1. Re:The Kremlin Plays Brutal Chess by iminplaya · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What I don't get is why people still act as if Russia wasn't a dictatorship while it clearly is.

      It doesn't matter. It never did. As long as they're not Communist, everything is hunky-dory.

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    2. Re:The Kremlin Plays Brutal Chess by happyemoticon · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Then why does America still have such close ties to China? Nixon and Kissinger really helped improve things, true; both America and China had bones against the USSR; and it's better to be at peace than at war (at least in my opinion, but why is there no strong ideological war being carried out? The real answer is that they're awesome trading partners, unlike the inefficient, walled-off USSR. I feel like I'm playing a shell game, and at some point, "democracy" was replaced with "capitalism". As was said before, now that they're pumping dinosaur juice out to the rest of the world and we can build a McDonalds in Red Square, we like Russia.

      I suppose this is a trite observation. Of course democracy has been usurped by capitalism. I just hadn't really thought about it in terms of foreign policy before.

  7. Re:Someone sieze that bitch Hillary by rednip · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wish our president had such powers to sieze anti-American politicians like Clinton I thought that was funny as hell and was about to moderate it as such, but the sad thing is, I'm not sure if hes kidding. As I've heard people say in all seriousness such things.
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  8. Re:obligatory joke by Aminion · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hope that you are right, but if the world hasn't been able to do anything about Russia's horrible crimes against the people of Chechnya, how big are the chances that Kasparov can make a difference? Also, don't forget that Putin's approval ratings are pretty high even if you disbelieve the official statistics from the Kremlin, i.e. the Russians themselves might not even care about this and that is what's really required here. You can't force changes like this from the outside (are you going to sanction Russia? Use military force? Hardly), it has to come from the people of Russia.

  9. Re:"Stern but fair?" by mapkinase · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I worked in Moscow for outsourcing company for several months. All of the developers were big Putin (and /.) fans. The popularity of Putin might be artificially bumped up by the relentless propaganda, but this propaganda plus excellent economic context works. People REALLY like Putin in Russia, brainwashed (which I am sure about) or not. So "fear of being imprisoned" as you nicely exaggerated has nothing to do with it.

    You have to understand the political climate in Russia to see that Putinism does not have many alternatives, given sincere dislike of what West looks like in the light of American foreign policy.

    Putin came to power "with the blood of Chechens up to his elbows", but he made some good changes in Russia after the lawlessness of 90's. That happened many time in history, that is how autocratic rulers usually come to power: after screw ups of democracy, they fix many things (and then they fall, of course, and that what will eventually happen to Putinisim as well). Autocratism vs democracy is like dinosaurs vs mammals. Dinosaurs are bigger and stronger, but mammals are more resilient.

    Kasparov and other liberal opposition have ZERO influence or support in Russia. The only (very weak as well) opposition in Russia is a Communist party (do not laugh, it is not funny). The West of course do not care and they will support this puppet liberal opposition, anyway...

    Putinism in Russia is for long for better or for worse (for whom?).

    And "fairness" has very little to do in politics. Laws are typically broken by the powers.

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  10. Re:The Deep Blue Win by florescent_beige · · Score: 4, Interesting

    He's got a massive ego, so people dismiss him as a bad loser. But his accusations of cheating aren't without merit.

    My respect for him has gone up quite a bit because of this incident. I wonder if I would have the courage to stand up to police and arbitrary imprisonment, knowing what Russian jails must be like these days.

    I hear lots of griping about the state of the world on /. and elsewhere, but I wonder if any of us would have the courage to put our beliefs into action like he has.

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  11. Re:obligatory joke by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Even less while imprisoned.

    They said the same about Nelson Mandela...

  12. Agreed by einhverfr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would add that Iran is clearly far more democratic than Russia is today. Russia is more like Iraq under Saddam, where elections occur but nobody has any possibility of being elected except Putin. Despite meddling in the elections by the Council of Guardians, there are actual and real political dynamics which exist in Iran today. No such real dynamics occur under Russia today.

    The big difference is that, unlike Saddam, Putin actually does have weapons of mass destruction.

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    1. Re:Agreed by zzidre · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't get me wrong, but when a son takes the presidency after his father, only delayed by a man whose wife is likely to take it over after them all, it really looks like the difference is only that there are two elite groupings instead of one.