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BSA Software Piracy Fight Smacks of RIAA Crackdown

Ron Paul Dennis Kucinich writes "A Business Software Alliance raid on musical-instrument maker Ernie Ball Inc. cost the company $90,000 in a settlement. Soon after, Microsoft sent other businesses in the region around Ball's a flyer offering discounts on software licenses, along with a reminder not to wind up like Ernie Ball. Enraged, CEO Sterling Ball vowed never to use Microsoft software again, even if 'we have to buy 10,000 abacuses.' Similar BSA raids around the country have been provoking strong reactions from put-upon business owners, echoing similar reactions to music-lovers targeted by the RIAA."

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  1. 10,000 Abacuses? by Matti-han · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My dear sir, let me introduce you to something called 'linux'. I favor Kubuntu myself.

  2. Great news by Slashidiot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think this is great news for FOSS people. Up until now, most software vendors have been quite generous on their piracy tolerance. If these companies start pushing it hard, and making people pay, things will start changing.

    Many people just download photoshop because that's what they know. If they have to pay for it, there will be a HUGE shift to GIMP. And that's even more true with Microsoft stuff, at least in Spain. I know very few people who have bought a copy of Windows (not counting what came with the computer). But it's easy to pirate, so they go for it. If they faced fines of 1000 euro for it (or had to pay 300 to buy it in the first place), a lot of people would consider linux. Now, both are free (in practice), so price is not a problem when choosing. Factor that in, and things look very different.

    So, good news, people will start using what they need, and not the professional (and expensive) tool for home stuff. And that usually means open source.

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  3. Seriously though by nighty5 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    we're congratulating a company for copying software from major vendors and they got caught, and they should be treated like some savour? I'm sick to death of hearing companies feel they are the victim when they COPY software without paying for it. You can bet your bottom dollar Ernie Ball wouldn't work for free by giving out guitars so why should a software company?

    The fact is, they willingly copied software and got caught and they paid the consequences. Although it seems based on the article it was only 8% unauthorised, they only changed over when they were caught, if they were really supportive of open source they would of moved off their propriety systems long ago.

    I work in IT, and I pay for software that I use, if I can't afford it I find something else - its no excuse to copy it.

    Nothing to see here move along.

  4. They've got the news outlets in on it too... by JakiChan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When I was looking at Yahoo news today I saw no less than 3 articles in the Technology section about the BSA. Seems like they're tricking the news services into running free scare-tactics PR for them.

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  5. AutoCad Substitute? by meburke · · Score: 2, Insightful

    OK, there are adequate substitutes for Windows, Photoshop, and MSOffice (especially OxygenOffice), but it is real hard to find good OSS substitutes for Visio, AutoCad and MSProject. A few years ago, AutoCad was listed as the second most used application in the World. The OSS substitute would have to be absolutely awesome to compete with AutoCad. This may be one of the best-designed apps in existence, the tech support is pretty good, the legacy is humongous, and everyone is educated in it.

    Now my needs are bit modest, so I get by with SketchUp, and Alibre, (although my versions are not free, they do offer free versions), but a major Engineering company might have a rough time finding an easy-to-use substitute.

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  6. Not so simple. by TheLink · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The problem I see is it's not just that. You don't just need money to pay for the software you use, you need money to pay to keep track of it for X years and all the other associated crap. And some of those license thingies are kinda grey or complicated - per server, per client, concurrent clients, users (this could be vague), concurrent users, host, CPU (socketted), CPU core, MHz etc. Not just that, they can change from year to year. IIRC Windows XP Home was previously not for multiprocessor systems, but when multicore x86 CPUs came out, Microsoft said they meant socketed CPUs.

    "The BSA considers software pirated if a company can't produce a receipt for it, no matter how long ago it was purchased. Software boxes or certificates of authenticity are no help, because the BSA argues the software could have been obtained from an illegitimate source."

    Does that mean even if you have Windows XP and MS Office certs stuck on the PC with a 1:1 cert:install mapping it doesn't count? What idiocy is that? I know lots of businesses will have difficulty retaining receipts and records longer than a few years. Might be in a box somewhere but nobody left in the company will know about it.

    Whether the PC was stolen or not, if the cert+ key is real Microsoft etc already have got paid for it.

    It could even be a gift, believe me people do donate software. I'm sure many churches and charitable organisations get such stuff. You don't always get receipts for that.

    Thing is the BSA might have a different agenda from the companies it represents.

    I heard the Microsoft boss in my country handled piracy cases differently - he told off his staff who apparently were going around taking people to court etc. Basically his opinion was these people were happy users of Microsoft software, all his staff needed to do was to convince them to license. Which shouldn't be too hard - "Hi, would you like to pay the $$$$$ per infringing copy (plus bosses risk imprisonment) or $$$ per licensed copy?". ;)

    Instant sale. Don't even need to send them any fancy media or boxes. Don't even need to send people to help install and configure the software - they've already done all that work themselves.

    Only send in the thugs if they refuse to license after you find out they are noncompliant.

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  7. Re:The solution is simple by Volante3192 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Last time I checked the licencing for the student/teacher edition of Powerpoint (I believe 2003) it allowed installation on three seperate machines.

    Then there's the per device and per user licencing.

    It'd be easy to keep track of if the only licencing model out there was "one key, one system" but in order to appease big businesses there's volume licencing, and that spread out into other different models. The fact that there are businesses out there who exist simply to keep track of licences says there's something dreadfully wrong with the current system.

  8. Re:10,000 abacuses? How about 10,000 Linux install by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And illegal does not mean wrong. In this case, the law is deeply wrong, so they were wrongfully fined. The law does not determine right and wrong. Copyright should be abolished. http://questioncopyright.org/

  9. Re:The solution is simple - Not really by Herschel+Cohen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Looking at a shelf next to my desk I see software I purchased and until recently I had a complete paper trail. Having learned I need not keep all my business records for tax purposes I have been shredding old receipts, etc that are too old to be of interest to the IRS. Now despite the fact that I have not run a Windows machine for business (Linux only here) since 2001 or 2002 and the software resides in only their respective boxes, I might be, now, technically in non-compliance. Why should I have to worry about rules that are more excessive than I need to follow for business, tax purposes?

  10. GPL restricts distribution only by CustomDesigned · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While the GPL licenses are some of the more complex in OSS, the provisions affect distribution, not use. Mr. Ball can *use* GPL stuff all he wants without worrying about licensing issues. It is only when he develops the Ball Instrument Manufacturing accounting package based on GPL software and wants to distribute it that he has to be careful.

  11. Re:No sympathy for Ball. by tsstahl · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A few programmer friends got me copies of XP from the MS employee store for $35 each, which I have running on 2 machines.

    You have just admitted to copyright infringement by violating license terms. Does your high horse give you enough clearance to be heard over the din of others turning themselves in?

    You are in exactly the same gray area the article talks about. I think I'll report you to the BSA and see what kind of reward I can collect out of your hide.

    Food for thought?

  12. Familiar business model... by tbg58 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The basic pitch begins like this: Nice business you got here... it'd be a shame if something happened to it. Works for other organizations than the BSA.