New Way to ID Invisible Intruders on Wireless LANs
Bergkamp10 writes "Australia's University of Technology in Queensland has created a groundbreaking new system that can detect invisible intruders on wireless LANs. Wireless networks have been almost impossible to thoroughly secure as they possess no clearly defined boundaries, instead they are defined by the quality and strength of the receiving antenna. QUT Information Security Institute researcher Dr Jason Smith has invented a new system to detect eavesdropping on unencrypted networks or active hijackings of computer sessions when a legitimate user who is logged onto the network leaves the connection. Smith has created a series of monitoring techniques that when used together can detect both attackers and configuration mistakes in network devices."
I don't know about that. I use WPA-PSK security on my WLAN, and I regularly monitor my network using ordinary means (logs, IDS, etc.) and I haven't seen any evidence of intruders, invisible or otherwise. I suppose this is one more thing I could add to my arsenal, but how many with security turned on really have trouble with this?
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The description is, basically, they use the signal strength and round trip times of the signals to figure out if someone unauthorized is on your network. The downside is that, in large corporate wireless networks, I would think people tend to be pretty mobile and there won't be a reliable indicator that the odd signal from slightly too far away isn't just somebody who remembered one last thing on the way to their car. Smaller wireless networks aren't likely to care enough to spend the time it takes to tell.
It's an interesting idea, but I have a hard time seeing it become widespread.
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Yeah, right, detect eavesdropping. Any other snake oil you want to sell?
So, basically, they are just triangulating every node on the network, and detecting when a node is outside a given range (outside the building?), or seems to suddenly jump to another location (session hijacking)? Would this still work if the attacker is using a directional, high-gain antenna to prevent effective triangulation? Also, varying the signal strength and round trip time could throw this off, but even if the exact location of the attacker cannot be determined because of it, the alarm could still be raised.
Aussie's are really into all this wireless stuff!
I'm fairly new to all this but at a very basic level it seems to make sense.
It just a more complex method of looking at the flashing lights on the modem to see if its in sync with your known wireless connections. -- Okay alot more complex than that.
I wondeer if this can be applied to other wireless systems, e.g., radio systems. If so it would be very useful
I don't wan't anyone not authorised by me on my network. I see no reason why I 'ought to be required to provide this service to all listeners'. Sorry, my network, my rules.
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You can detect many things, but not eavesdropping. Your little wifi card broadcasts all kinds of data, in all directions. I can listen in and say nothing. How are you going to detect that? Warping of the ether?
"Depending on how sensitive the network is, armed security guards could be deployed [...]"
And they would shoot the guy with the laptop in the lobby? Whoops, wrong guy. It was the other guy in the lobby. Nope, it was the woman in the parking lot. Wait, no, it was an anomoly.
Sounds more like a weak attempt at a research project.
Zonk or Bergkamp10, please do us all a favour and don't change the name of institutions.
1) hopping from one router to another is detected via traditional means
2) higher than average roundtrip times are noticed via traditional means
3) signal is triangulated via traditional means to put a location on a suspected signal.
A new but an obvious proceedure that someone has decided to put to paper and product. It is a nice product to notice but this is about as ground breaking as peanut butter and chocolate.
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What I love is that (the summary at least) article states you can use this to see if someone is monitoring your network.
Excuse me? How in the hells would you tell of someone was passively reading incoming radio waves? Isn't that the point of active vs passive radar systems, for instance? You can't!
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Because if they download kiddie pr0n, it's *MY* IP address that gets logged, and my house the FBI raids looking for said kiddie pr0n.
Not worth the risk to be a good Samaritan to the neighbor's who can't afford their own internet.
Not to flame or troll or slashvertise, but how is this new? I was a conference recently where the coolest security product on display was from http://www.airtightnetworks.net/: Their WIPS can be configured with an organization's known wireless clients (MAC address, make, HW and SW versions, etc.), and then detect systems that shouldn't be there.
According to the reseller's CTO - I had the good fortune to stop by the booth before he and the COO departed and the booth was left with only salesdroids - the system has an extensive database of fingerprints - hardware, software, etc., think of timings and the like specific to particular combinations of OS, firmware, and chipset.
This raises the bar for a snooper: They not only have to clone your MAC addresses, etc., they have to clone the MAC, etc., on a box running the same OS, firmware, chipset, as the legit box. And they have to get the WPA keys right.
(They also a neato WPA key management app to raise that bar, too.)
Apologies if this seems slashvertisical, seems to me the best way to debunk someone's claim of newnessess and neverbeendonebeforedness is to point real selling product that does all of the non-vapourware things the someone claims to have invented.
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WEP is useless and can be cracked in less than 10 minutes using any laptop made in the last 10 years. Keep on using that WPA though.
MAC filtering is useless because anyone with Kismet can see the active MAC addresses on the network.
SSID hiding is useless because anyone with Kismet can see the active SSIDs around them.
Someone mentioned it earlier, but have a look at this:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=43
Well, the first thing you need to do is actually start reading the article you're using for support. From the fine article you quoted:
Up to the time you can show how a wifi connection will make a physical CD magically show up in a room, then any argument about plausible deniability based off this case is full of it. You can't claim someone else was using your wireless connection to download child porn when you have a big stack of CDs with child pornography on them. Nobody is stupid enough to believe that. The only way this could have been a test case would be if they hadn't found any evidence beside the network traffic.
What this shows is that illegal traffic coming to/from your address constitutes probable cause, which is a different kettle of fish.