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All US Border Crossings Now Require A 'Terrorist Risk Profile'

conlaw writes with a somewhat intimidating Washington Post article. "The federal government disclosed details yesterday of a border-security program to screen all people who enter and leave the United States, create a terrorism risk profile of each individual and retain that information for up to 40 years ... The risk assessment is created by analysts at the National Targeting Center, a high-tech facility opened in November 2001 and now run by Customs and Border Protection. In a round-the-clock operation, targeters match names against terrorist watch lists and a host of other data to determine whether a person's background or behavior indicates a terrorist threat, a risk to border security or the potential for illegal activity. They also assess cargo."

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  1. Oh I so want to visit the US for a holiday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    NOT! Seriously. You want to go on a vacation. They say Disneyland is nice, or Hawaii. So you go on the trip, and some nutter having a bad day (and armed with guns) decides to give you their bad day. Gee, wouldn't that just make your vacation? It could actually end it (and if the nutter should have been committed years ago, it could end your life too). So lets see. I want to visit the US for a vacation. NOT! If going to the US is more dangerous to life and limb than going to Iraq, find (just about any other vacation spot in the world) to visit.

    1. Re:Oh I so want to visit the US for a holiday by ScrewMaster · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Uh, what? Do you have any idea what you're talking about? No? I thought not.

      Still, it's an anti-American post so I'm going to guess it'll end up +5 Insightful in spite of its incoherence.

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  2. Only a matter of time by noidentity · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It's only a matter of time until the number of people leaving the US exceeds those who enter, legally or otherwise. Oops, guess I just upped my terrorist profile index threat level color orange whatever.

  3. Dumb struck. by headkase · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Taken individually all the measures that are being enacted in the USA over the last few years are almost laughable. But together, I just can't believe that more organizations like the ACLU or even the EFF aren't screaming from the rooftops about the encroachment on liberties! I mean really, it's the USA not the USSA: what happened to the land of the free? It seems to be going down the proverbial tubes, when will the madness stop? Will the US go fully down the road to facism?? Just buy guns, lots of them. Just in case.

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  4. Re:...Well. by Acrimonymous · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    What, exactly, is the problem here? Are you entering the country? Do you have some sort of "problems" you don't want law-abiding people to know about?

    Then don't complain. Why liberals feel this compulsion to oppose things that make the U.S. more secure is beyond me. Maybe if you people had spent less time "freaking out" over little things like this and more time volunteering to defend the country we wouldn't even have to do this.

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  5. Re:Awesome! by garcia · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Unfortunately, so do many who should not be put in a position of power even if hell froze over.

    Hell apparently froze over back in 2001.

  6. Only terrorists need fear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Only terrorists need fear the man in change. Have you seen the reports coming out of France? True it deserves all it gets, but it needs to stop there.

  7. Re:So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    You are aware that all the terrorists on the 9/11 attacks had valid visas right?

    Check that again and you'll find that three had overstayed their visas and were therefore in the country illegally. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecentersc582

    Thirteen of the terrorists had Florida driver's licenses or ID cards, seven had Virginia driver's licenses, at least two had California licenses and two had New Jersey driver's licenses. WHY? Why do we give licenses to foreigners to begin with? Are we suicidal?

  8. Re:Soviet Vespucciland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Oh, you mean like the Democratic party?

  9. Re:So by Robber+Baron · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    You are aware that all the terrorists on the 9/11 attacks had valid visas right?

    Really? Why would bush and cheney et al need visas?

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  10. Re:plenty of people come in that way, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Yeah right... man, I'm gonna have a cocacola. I don't even know what you're thinking? It's not consumerism, it's patriotism. Because I drink soda, I'm now a consumption based lifeform, hellbent on pissing off the middle east to prolong a war? All this because I like the fizzy taste? You know what, I've had it, people want to violent, have wars, all that crap, don't come begging the US to help. All we get is ridicule in the global community. We should've let world war 2 play out a few more years, and then joined in. Wouldn't be anybody left to complain. Sorry, I was channeling the ghosts of many a republican. OH GREAT RONALD WILSON REAGAN, OH GREAT NAGAER NOSLIW DLANOR!! GIVE US TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS... TEAR DOWN THIS WAAAAALLLL Peace to the whole world, I'm in a good mood, hope the news doesn't get everyone down. That's when the NWO wins. infowars.com

  11. Re:So by mpe · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    There was a book written a while back (of which I wish I could remember the name) where the author basically argued that anti-terrorism measures were basically useless because any measure to mitigate threat we put in, they would think some way around it.

    There may be effective "anti-terrorism" measures but they may well be completly different from those governments frequently appear to jump to. In places such as the US all terrorism is actually very uncommon. e.g. smuggling is far more of an issue at border crossings than terrorism.

    Want to fix terrorism - maybe we should fix or foreign policy. These people honestly believe they are fighting for a cause and their freedom.

    That might actually initially create more terrorist acts in the US. The only meaningful change that the US could make in respect of South West Asia would be to stop financially and militarily supporting Israel. With terrorism being an obvious way for US Zionists to react.
    It's also undoubtedly the case that many terrorists and potential terrorists in the US are native citizens.

  12. Re:So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Japan only massacred the Chinese, who do not have the same political clout in the US as Jews

  13. border agents are doing basic police work? by stratjakt · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    SAY IT AINT SO

    OWWW my freeeeedom

    What a bunch of knee-jerk douchebags.

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  14. Re:plenty of people come in that way, too by s4m7 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Why disrupt a legitimate, lawful purchase/use/possession of firearms to fight the mere possibility of an illegal use of those firearms?

    It's called deterrence. See, people who make the "when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" argument are missing some critical thinking skills. The black/white market distinction exists even without restrictions, for reasons that have already been given. Black market firearms are often cheaper, cannot be traced properly, could be by felons, etc. The 5 day waiting period and background check did not cause the black market to come into existence.

    Furthermore, those black market guns have to come from somewhere. Most often, they are "legitimate" firearms that have been stolen, or sold from a private "legitimate" owner into the black market. Background checks will reduce the number of firearms that make it into the wild. If you raise the barrier to entry of firearms, it will deter the less determined buyers, meaning people who won't take better measures to secure and keep their weapons will be less inclined to procure them in the first place. Eventually, as weapons are permanently lost, damaged or confiscated, fewer weapons will find it to the black market. note i did not say "none" but fewer, since the premise is *reduction* of violence, not elimination.

    Waiting periods are specifically designed to prevent crimes of passion, where someone goes and buys a gun specifically to wound or kill someone they are angry at. The waiting period wouldn't have stopped the VA Tech incident, however it is clear that the shooter had a well-documented history of mental problems and a properly-executed background check may very well have stopped it.

    At any rate, some people who might wish to commit a firearm crime don't have access to the black market and so some deterrence will take place. Purchasing from an illegal market has it's drawbacks. If you don't have a gun, and you go to buy one from the black market, what's to stop the fellow with the gun from pointing it at you, taking your money, and leaving?

    So really, the bigger problem is the "gray market" such as gun shows, where legal weapons are sold without restriction and without a proper paper trail. These remaining loopholes in the system need to be closed.

    honestly, though, handguns, which are usually the subject of these federal laws, ought to be outright banned since their only legitimate use is hurting people. You don't hunt with a handgun, and you only practice shooting them to get better at hurting people.

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