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British Village Requests Removal From GPS Maps

longacre writes "The tiny village of Barrow Gurney, England, has asked GPS map publisher Tele Atlas to remove them from the company's maps. The reason: truck drivers using GPS navigation devices are being directed to drive through the town despite the roads being too narrow for sidewalks, which has led to numerous accidents. At the root of the problem lies the fact that the navigation maps used by trucks are the same as those used by passenger cars, and they don't contain data on road width or no-truck zones. Tele Atlas says they will release truck-appropriate databases at some point, but until then they advise local governments to make use of a technology dating back to the Romans: road signs."

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  1. Re:Road Signs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Cut him some slack, he probably just had some Decepticon ass to kick.

  2. Re:Road Signs? by Radres · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds like a great opportunity for the law enforcement officers of Barrow Gurney to make some money issuing fines.

  3. Re:Road Signs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Put up road signs. Next, enforce the laws with lengthy traffic stops for trucks and strict fines. If one causes an accident anyway, feel free to throw them in jail pending local laws and the installation of signs detailing the laws.

  4. This is a local village... by Aardpig · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...for local people.

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  5. Re:Road Signs? by piltdownman84 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Trucks have gotten really bad up here in around Vancouver, Canada. Especially late at night. They pay no attention to street lights, they simply blow their horn and if your lucky you get out of the way. My father wasn't so lucky a few years back. The driver didn't even deny that he ran the red, just said he didn't see my dad. Actually my father was lucky as he wasn't seriously hurt, although that was the end of that van. Everyone I know has a story about how "they almost got killed by a big truck".

  6. Got enough links in your post? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seriously, who are you? Wikipedia?

  7. I know this place by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Its fairly near to me and I agree with the residents...

    It is a death trap and its not just lorries, its tourists who are getting from the west country to bristol. Its a great shortcut between two major roads, but it was not designed for the amount of traffic that gps sends through. They have seen MAJOR increases in traffic since gps became popular.

    The roads are built like they are for horse and cart. They wind up and down and they are very narrow with no pavement, people do die there.

    1. Re:I know this place by LaskoVortex · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > Sounds like the route should be improved.

      The route doesn't need improving. The town is under no obligation to make life easy for murderous truck drivers with a disdain for country folk. Best is to put up a blockade that is no wider than the narrowest street in the town. A sign could be put on the blockade, that says something like "good luck trying to get through this blockade". Then, economics would prevail and people would stop buying the gps units that advertise a road through that town. This is the most common sense approach.

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  8. Re:Easier solution by abigsmurf · · Score: 5, Funny

    4. Get fined by the EU for using lb instead of kilograms

  9. Re:Road Signs? by DittoBox · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't taze me, good buddy! 10-4

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  10. Re:Easier solution by sethawoolley · · Score: 5, Interesting

    it's not "a pint is a pint the world around".

    a pint is a *pound* the world around is the mnemonic that a liquid pint is ounce equivalent to weight pounds. 16 fl oz = pint, 16 oz = pound, so you know that 2oz is a quarter cup, 4oz is a half cup, 8oz is a cup, 16oz is a pint, and 32 oz is a quart, and 64 oz is a half and 128 oz is a gallon. Some people just have a hard time remembering where a pint fits into the system.

    I think powers of two are quite a natural system of measurement. Unfortunately, the French (and now the rest of the world) think a counting system based off the count of the digits on their hands and feet using Greek prefixes is somehow better.

    How anthropocentric.

  11. Re:Pints by scruffyMark · · Score: 5, Informative
    a pint is a *pound* the world around

    Except of course that it isn't. A more accurate, if less mnemonic mnemonic, would be "A pint is a pound in the US and exactly nowhere else."

    Outside of the states, we know that "A pint of pure water weighs a pound and a quarter." Because, you know, a proper pint is 20 fl oz. Not sure why you Americans have such funny little pints.

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  12. Re:Road Signs? by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 5, Insightful
    As a UK truck driver, I can say with confidence "I bet you would prefer me to look at the road than at a map!" Its not like there are convenient places to pull to the side of the road and look at a map. In country areas, if you stop, so do the 75 vehicles behind you.


    Tele Atlas have a complete monopoly on GPS maps, why the $£%@ cant they be FORCED to put height and weight limits on their maps by the government, on pain of having their rights to sell removed.


    Its not only me, I know a load of drivers who have e-mailed tomtom and the like over the last 7 years, asking for the ability to enter the fact that I am in a vehicle 40ft long and 16 foot high and 8 foot six wide on the screen and not be sent down 7 foot wide roads with 9 foot six high bridges.


    We dont do it for fun. You try reversing it when you come to the restriction.

    As for the arseholes who suggest fines:


    (a) For most drivers the company pays, and a lot of the rest are based in east Europe, and would not pay anyway.


    (b) No driver would go there if he knew how to avoid the problem. Its not about saving money or time, its about lack of info on the alternatives - how do we know the other road is better if its not shown as better?


    Teleatlas could fix the problem but won't. regulation is needed.

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  13. I live next door... by iceZebra · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sounds like a great opportunity for the law enforcement officers of Barrow Gurney to make some money issuing fines.

    Just to clarify things a little...
    I've lived most of my life in the village next door to Barrow Gurney. It's barely a village, approximately 400 people... As for law enforcement, it's the local Women's Institute, frowning upon any anti-social behaviour and gossiping people to death.

    I used to visit the abbattoir there regularly for fresh meat (braaaiinnns....) but since it shut down, there's no longer and point to visit. Should it disappear off the map, I'm not sure anyone else would mind (apparently including those who live there). :)

    In regard to the actual situation in hand, I can confirm that it's a great shortcut for getting round the area "off-piste". The road section in the main part of Barrow Gurney is very, very wide and would fit several lorries in no problem. The only difficulty is that the rest of the village and all access to it is via narrow lanes (for you Americans read: tarmac'd footpaths) and can get a little hairy even in a car.