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Western Digital Service Restricts Use of Network Drives

sehlat writes "Via BoingBoing comes the news that Western Digital's My Book(TM) World Edition(TM) II, sold with promises of internet-accessible drive space, is now restricting the types of files the drive will serve up. 'Western Digital is disabling sharing of any avi, divx, mp3, mpeg, and many other files on its network connected devices; due to unverifiable media license authentication. Just wondering -- who needs a 1 Terabyte network-connected hard drive that is prohibited from serving most media files? Perhaps somebody with 220 million pages of .txt files they need to share?'" Update: 12/07 03:28 GMT by Z : To clarify, it actually seems as though this is a bad summary. The MioNET service that WD packages with the networked drives is responsible for the rights of users via the network. There are a few (obvious) ways to get around that.

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  1. Why bother? by ChrisMP1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you can't have media files on it, it might as well be 512 MiB.

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  2. So rename your files and go on about your business by JudgeFurious · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seems simple enough. I'm downloading "The_Golden_Compass.pdf" or some such rubbish should take care of it.

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  3. This makes a lot of sense. by moogied · · Score: 5, Funny
    Western Digital understands the primary use of the drive to be media sharing. As such, they cripple that option in order to maximize drive life time and make sure its REAL primary use is back ups. I for one thank our Access-Restring Overlords..

    ^Satire.

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  4. Not the right question... by hawkeye_82 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    who needs a 1 Terabyte network-connected hard drive that is prohibited from serving most media files? Perhaps somebody with 220 million pages of .txt files they need to share? That's not the question we need to be asking.

    The question we need to be asking is - "How can I replace the firmware on that thing and make it my bitch?"
    1. Re:Not the right question... by lsllll · · Score: 5, Informative

      Here (http://mybookworld.wikidot.com/hacks-and-howto)

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    2. Re:Not the right question... by IANAAC · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The question we need to be asking is - "How can I replace the firmware on that thing and make it my bitch?"

      No, the question we should be asking is "who sells a device that we don't have to jump through hoops to do what I want?"

      Seriously, why even bother giving money to a business that restricts usage like this?

  5. Re:So rename your files and go on about your busin by TheLazySci-FiAuthor · · Score: 5, Funny

    You should check out some of my .txt files

    Metallica_Enter_Sandman.txt is a great "read"

  6. More like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Two hundred million files labelled like this:

    Latest-Movie[axxo].txt (filesize 700MB)

    Seriously, I don't know why they even try to bother any more. Regardless of your political position on piracy, it's a hole that they can't plug, no matter how many DRM methods they devise or U.S. senators they bribe.

    1. Re:More like... by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 5, Funny

      I can't wait to hear about all the noobs out there complaining about their "crashed" computers because they tried to open a 700MB file in NotePad... : p

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  7. I believe by sdsucks · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sounds more to me like they just can't be shared via "WD Anywhere". Not that they can't be stored on the drive. I may misunderstand though.

    *Due to unverifiable media license authentication, the most common audio and video file types cannot be shared with different users using WD Anywhere Access. A list of the non shareable file types can be found here.

  8. Re:"The Ironside" by Ironsides · · Score: 5, Funny

    I object to that. I am not a cripple.

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  9. Just remove WD Access Anywhere (MioNET) by Mononoke · · Score: 5, Informative

    Or just never install MioNET in the first place. Either way, here's how.

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  10. MP3 and other media CAN be stored... by John3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The limitation on the media files is when using the WD Anywhere Access. You can still backup and share your music files within your own network and even remotely. Not being totally familiar with the product, but I assume they have "guest" or anonymous sharing folders where you can "Offer your clients an easy way to access business documents, designs, and artwork." They probably also include some proprietary WD client program that lets you access your media files from remote locations so you can play your MP3's while at some hotel in Aruba. So the drive isn't an anchor, but it can't be popped on to the net and easily used to share MP3's with the world. Seems simple enough.

    Comcast would likely throttle down your Internet connection anyway once they saw all those MP3's being streamed. :)

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  11. From the manufacturer's product page: by harmonica · · Score: 4, Funny

    My Book(TM) World Edition(TM)

    What it holds:
    Up to 285,000 digital photos
    Up to 250,000 songs (MP3)
    Up to 25,000 songs (uncompressed CD quality)
    Up to 76 hours of Digital Video (DV)
    Up to 400 hours of DVD quality video
    Up to 100 hours of HD video

  12. I wouldn't. This is as stupid as it gets. by KingSkippus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously. There's no way in hell I would buy this thing. The last thing in the world I need is my hard drive deciding what files are and aren't okay to store. Are they on drugs, or what?

    Here is a complete list of file types it cripples the functionality for.

    The funniest part is the "What it holds" section at the bottom:

    • Up to 571,000 digital photos
    • Up to 500,000 songs (MP3)
    • Up to 50,000 songs (uncompressed CD quality)
    • Up to 100 hours of Digital Video (DV)
    • Up to 800 hours of DVD quality video
    • Up to 200 hours of HD video
  13. Re:So rename your files and go on about your busin by truthsearch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How about not buying a crippled product in the first place?

  14. It's irrelevant by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 5, Informative

    The mybook we II runs Linux, and it's trivial to get shell on it. You can make it do whatever you want.

    If you really want to know the travesty about the internet access to it, read up on the web. It's a java-based system called Mionet which requires a special client on your windows machine that you'll use to access it remotely. Did I mention the $50/year that you pay a 3rd party to access your own files? Mionet inexplicably forces you to go through their server to get to your files. Do a google search to find horror stories of Mionet being down and people being unable to reach their own files for more than a day. I'm a programmer - I know of no reason to create it this way other than to extract ongoing revenue from those who don't know better. Using dyndns and an open port will let you get to your files reliably from anywhere.

    As for mine, I got shell, disabled the mionet stuff, made sure sshd was coming up every time, and I use it as a really slow Linux machine with a large disk. Be forewarned, it's dog slow. It has a gigabit ethernet port on it that typically pumps out about 50Mbits/sec. Seriously, a 100Mbit port would be half-wasted. Let's not even talk about write speeds.

    If you buy one, note that you also don't need to use their windows setup utility, it has a complete web interface.

    I paid $300 for a 1TB drive, which, frankly, was little more than I would have paid for a plain external drive at the time. Bonus is that I can connect another usb drive into it and share it on the network.

    And one other bonus - it comes with a complete toolchain on its 3GB linux partition, so you can build software on it without having to install other toolchains on another linux machine. The 200MHz processor isn't the fastest at building, but it does fine.

  15. Ah, Time for the Tinfoil Hats? by tjstork · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think its because advanced aliens are against file sharing. If we don't have good copyrights, then the planet will be vaporized, as advanced civilizations basically sell travel books to each other. Piracy threatens the Galactic economy. You do know that the original Cylon - Human dispute was over DRM?

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  16. Re:I wouldn't. This is as stupid as it gets. by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously. There's no way in hell I would buy this thing. The last thing in the world I need is my hard drive deciding what files are and aren't okay to store. You don't have to use their networking service with the device. Indeed, that service isn't even available for Mac users. It has a web interface for setting it up independent of their service. There are also hacks out there to turn it into a Linux server. It has its own ARM processor. A co-worker is planning to move his Subversion server to one. It also has a USB port for hooking up additional storage.
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  17. Re:So rename your files and go on about your busin by Zymergy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Gmail currently does not restrict *.rar files (nor does Gmail scream at you for what file types your compressed RAR volume might contain). Use WinRAR for free. http://www.rarsoft.com/download.htm
    It works in: Pocket PC, Linux, FreeBSD, Mac OS X, and MS DOS. I love it so much I *GLADLY* PURCHASED IT! ($29) So call me a WinRAR fanboy.
    It is a superior replacement to WinZIP (and other zip clones) with better compression algorithms (and you can also encrypt your compressed files AND their filenames WITH authenticity verification plus it handles everything WinZIP does).

  18. Re:I wouldn't. This is as stupid as it gets. by Torvaun · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey, I didn't see Ogg Vorbis on the list. I demand Linux equality!

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  19. Madness by WhiteWolf666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, apparently, because Western Digital can't determine whether or not I have the correct license to share my files, from a device I own, I'm not allowed to do it?

    Crazy.

    Whatever happened to "substantially non-infringing use"?

    One could imagine an archive of freely redistributable video. I would have a use for such a device.

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  20. Doesn' scale by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Funny

    Or, just set associations so .REM files open with Media Player Classic.

    Oh sure that works great for "Shiny Happy People".REM. But then you need "Sunday, Bloody Sunday".U2 and so on - imagine the size of the file association list! :-)

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  21. Re:A Sign of Things to Come and How to Fight. by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why is everyone willing to write long essays without even spending a few seconds confirming that the story is correct? BoingBoing and Slashdot have it wrong. The drive stores and retrieves whatever files you put on it. It has one particular feature, optionally installed, that allows access to your drive from the Internet at large, and this one feature limits the filetypes you can share.

    Please stop the spread of bullshit on the web, do at least a few seconds of research before assuming everything you read is true.

  22. Re:Here's the deal. by mystik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What if Joe created the mp3, and has owner rights?

    What if Joe has Worldwide distribution rights?

    How does Joe explain to his hard drive that he's not a criminal by default?

    Why does Joe have to explain to his hard drive that he's not a criminal by default?

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  23. Re:WD My Book driver suck. Stick with Seagate by Glonoinha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually that's about the just of it.

    The LAST thing I need when buying hardware is to have a fucking piece of HARDWARE deciding what files it will / will not hold. Hardware is hardware - do what I tell you to do, do it reliably and without questioning my motives, intent, or desires.

    This is tantamount to a car that won't turn left because the onboard GPS doesn't think there's a road there - well guess what, I'm not driving to work by committee. When it comes to hardware, when I say 'jump' your ONLY question better be 'how high?'

    The important thing to remember is : I'm going to forget ~why~ I don't buy Western Digital hardware long before I forget that I ~don't~ buy Western Digital hardware. A year or now it will simply be 'I don't remember why, but there's no fucking way I would buy a WD drive.'

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  24. Re:A Sign of Things to Come and How to Fight. by ad0gg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How is a bash on Microsoft insightful when the article is about Western Digital? Did microsoft force western digital to restrict file types?

    Microsoft eats babies. Mod me up as insightful.

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  25. Last time I buy a WD drive... by gillbates · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would I buy such a large drive if I don't intend on using it for media.

    It really isn't WD's place to restrict filesharing.

    1. In the first place, this is a troubling precedent. My own hardware won't obey my instructions? Does WD believe they still own the machine, even after I've bought it?
    2. Technical issues aside, this means that most users won't be able to share their home videos and sound recordings. So, no garage band videos allowed.
    3. Media files aren't the only things copyrighted. For example, most text files, binaries programs, etc... are also copyrighted. In fact, almost every file on your PC, is copyrighted. So if WD is concerned about copyright violations, they shouldn't allow any type of file to be shared.

    This is truly a troubling precedent. The problem is that by building a device which automatically attempts to enforce copyright law, they build a precedent which can be used against them in the future:

    • RIAA Lawyer: So you manufactured the device knowing full well it could be used for copyright infringement, did you not?
    • WD: Well, um, yes.
    • RIAA Lawyer: So you admit that you contributed to copyright infringement, do you not?
    • WD: Well, it's not like that -
    • RIAA Lawyer: Yes! Yes it is like that! See - you put the restriction on filesharing on one of your drives, but neglected to place it on the rest of them! So you could have prevented filesharing, but chose not to. You deliberately made this device capable of copyright infringement...
    • Later... During Congressional anti-terrorism hearings...
    • Expert: Yes, we've known for a long time that simulating a nuclear weapon requires large amounts of data - typically beyond the capacity of the PC, until WD started manufacturing large capacity disks...
    • Congresscritter: (to WD) Why did you make such large capacity drives?
    • WD: Well, we intended them to be used for media...
    • Congresscritter: Such as movies?
    • WD: Well, um...
    • Congresscritter: Because that would be copyright infringement.
    • WD: Um, no. We didn't intend them to be used for copyright infringement.
    • Congresscritter: Ah, so you intended them to be used for something else? What else would someone do with a terabyte of data?
    • WD: Well, um...
    • Congresscritter: It's fairly obvious to everyone here that you helped terrorist countries with their nuclear ambitions - you even went so far as to make the drive unable to share media. Clearly, you had some other purpose in mind.... Let me help you out here - you knew they could be used for terrorism, but hoped that no one would find out. You put your profits above the safety and security of the American people.

    Electronic devices don't decide what's legal and illegal - the courts do. When people think that they are capable of doing so, two key things are going to happen:

    1. Manufacturers will be held liable for any illegal use of their products, and:
    2. To minimize liability, the functionality available to the end user will be extremely crippled.

    It is really unfortunate when our fear of what someone might do with technology overrules the good that they are doing with it.

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  26. Re:A Sign of Things to Come and How to Fight. by harrkev · · Score: 5, Insightful

    t has one particular feature, optionally installed, that allows access to your drive from the Internet at large, and this one feature limits the filetypes you can share.

    Sooo, if I want to buy one to use as a server to allow all of my relatives to get pictures of the family and such, it will work. If I throw in an MPG of my son playing soccer, oooops... denied.

    Wow. What a great feature.

    Point is, it still sucks. Arbitrary limits based on the file extentions are stupid and pointless.
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  27. Re:A Sign of Things to Come and How to Fight. by mrv20 · · Score: 5, Funny

    LOL. Now you'll never know whether it was your point or the "Microsoft eats babies" remark that got you your insightful mod.

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  28. Re:A Sign of Things to Come and How to Fight. by mOdQuArK! · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's GNU/Stallman, you insensitive clod.