This is one of the truths on things being "Free"... 99 out of 100 questions always seem to have the same answer... $$$. You think Micro$oft is going to just give something away for "FREE"?? Ask me about my specials on bridges for sale... Someone has to pay for it, and our 4th and 5th Amendment Rights and any other privacy is obviously the price of admission. (Apparently they are also, without legal parental consent, conducting surveillance on all under 18 year-olds.. wonder what they do with that data??)
If you want privacy in today's Orwellian world, you will need to air-gap your system and just never be online, or be very keen with linux or some other OS not designed from the ground up with constant surveillance in-built... Because it's FREE you know. (Bernie Sanders minded 'economists' need to really take some notes on this one...)
If the Electric Power company is told by unofficial third parties (BMG et al) that their electricity is being used to power Cox Equipment on both the user and carrier side that is being used to download copyrighted materials, is the Electric Company also just as liable to tens of millions in damages for clearly supplying power to both the alleged perp and to the Cox internet connection utility?? It is the Same insane Logic! This is essentially a case of the gun maker being held responsible versus the person holding it and using the gun... This case will be overturned on appeal.
As a former photojournalist, I can saw that you simply blacklist them and/or fire them from being a contributor/stringer/staffer at that image bureau. There are ethical standards in the professional photography world, and it is nothing bad to those of us who upheld our high ethical standards to see someone get fired for unethically altering images and cheating and breaking the rules. I doubt this is as much a problem from a "who altered their photos?" problem as it is the photographers are submitting larger files (even if lossy down converted into JPG from RAW) and Reuters is having problems handling so many large files in their infrastructure and pushing photos out in distribution to their newsroom client "on the wire" servers. I know in my past when dealing with AP, if you uploaded a file that was too large they either rejected it, or WORSE, applied their lossy compression using whatever software they saw fit. When what your image looks like is everything to a shooter, and when a perfect images is ruined by crap third party compression due to file size, the lesson is hard learned and PJ folks are pretty savvy getting the best bang per MB.
I am serious, and I am sure no one in the Government has ~ever~ monitored this web site's traffic or users ever never... (I always assume I am always logged by some alphabet agency and added to some bad-list for checking out the very cool stuff at cryptome.org throughout the years...) It sounds like John just accidentally sent out logs on a USB archive stick. I am sure the recipient considered it value-added. (don't see any politics going on here either, not taking the troll bait)
This agreement that took years to reach, is all carrot and no stick.
Once the other nations release their sanctions (current sticks), they won't put them back on and if Iran continues to make nukes, they still won't reinstate them after the US gives the Iranians 100 Billion+ $ (which they will likely promptly buy arms and weapons systems from China and Russia with)...
It is very important to note that 24/7 access does NOT = "unfettered" access... this deal has notice being given to Iran for the when and where they will inspect... (probably days to weeks in advance) UNFETTERED means any time anywhere no notice... HUGE difference.
This was a total cave in and we were better off before any deal. Giving up everything to the opponent is not a metric by which you can claim it is a "good deal".
Love him or hate him, Bibi was right, this is a very bad deal...
I appreciate you not assuming my intent and being objectively respectful. Thank You.
Yes, I left things unsaid and I meant not Troll or Flame in my comments, but I do not have a entirely positive opinion with this choice by MS. I believe this is a slippery sloping direction in which I predict MS will head into OS subscriptions (considering their tract record of late with office). Yes, I know you can buy non-subscription based office apps also...
I have used MS DOS with Windows 1.0 through Windows 8.1, and I am expressing my opinion and predicting Microsoft will eventually be making this a subscription OS model eventually for more $$$, (but I will endure the low moderation the ad hominem attacks for expressing so)...
I am predicting over time the MS will eventually have trial versions (or full versions with limited time use) of their OS' on new hardware, like Norton and McAfee and MS Office currently do, and the customer can pay more to keep using them...
Seems like this is heading toward a yearly paid subscription model for an OS from Microsoft?
Sounds like another great reason to move over to OSX (or any flavor of Linux)...
Not really, this is about more taxes and greater profits....
For example, the cost of a 1lb can of R-12 was $0.50-$0.99 when I was a kid... today they are about $10.99- $15.00+ per 1lb can for the now carcinogenic and flammable "replacement" R-134A...
To be perfectly honest, we could all be using less than $0.50 worth of propane/butane/isobutane/ethane blends as our everyday refrigerants and suffer near ZERO ozone depletion and save terrific sums of money.
We are allowed to buy and handle gasoline and use propane/natural gas open flame appliances in our homes, but on noes, you can't let people use a small amount of hydrocarbon refrigerants in their cars (which run on gallons of hydrocarbons) because they are flammable and virtually free in cost... Let's charge them 2000%+ markup on a rather carcinogenic and still-flammable man made "replacement" and also tax the hell out of it.
(I knew a guy who easily modified his car to utilize propane as his A/C refrigerant and his air was very cold and extra cheap to refill should he ever have a coolant leak.)
This is a real life example of chemical companies and government working together to ban a cheap effective product and replace it with an inferior replacement at stupid crazy tax and obscene profit levels...
Every space shuttle launch put more potent and persistent ozone-destroying chlorine compounds directly into the atmosphere per launch than everyone's cars combined in over a year...
While I agree and condemn that chemically CFCs do destroy ozone, there are virtually free of cost non-carcinogenic replacements (hydrocarbons like propane and butane and ethane and methane) that we were Not allowed to use, because terrific taxes could not be collected, nor significant profits made making them.
Propane is R-290 and Dichlorodifluoromethane (Freon) R-12 are nearly compatible, with R-12 having a 100 year atmospheric lifetime and Propane having a 12 year atmospheric lifetime as well as being naturally occurring and non-toxic and non-ozone depleting... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L... ) 99 out of 100 reasons for it always have to do with $ in truth.
Not really, this is about more taxes and greater profits.... For example, the cost of a 1lb can of R-12 was $0.50-$0.99 when I was a kid... today they are about $10.99- $15.00+ per 1lb can for the now carcinogenic and flammable "replacement" R-134A... To be perfectly honest, we could all be using http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L... ) 99 out of 100 reasons for it always have to do with $ in truth.
I'm not buying it. Voltage x Amperage = Wattage. So long as Wattage stays the same (think 1,800W hair dryers here), your Amperage must proportionately increase if the Voltage drops... This can only be accomplished by using LARGER wires to deliver the Amps... This is why wires on your car battery or golf cart are so large... Imaging the COST of wiring a home with large (lower Voltage) conductors like that... Ask yourself why Europe uses a ~230V/240V electricity in homes and how much cost savings there must be by delivering all the wattage at half the conductor size compared to the North American 120V household standard... Smarter people than us have all thought this stuff through many decades ago... Tesla is trying to push battery tech and if it were affordable and better than a $500 gas generator, we'd already have it installed. Cool technology, way too expensive and I'm not rewiring my house.
The "agreement" is still fuzzy and not at all concrete in any way (despite claims to the contrary which only the Obama Admin claims things are agreed to, while Iran claims nothing is agreed to as the Obama Admin is in fact lying in its 'facts sheet' on the "deal" et al...)
So...
Iran gets to keep its full ICBM program, now defacto sanctioned OK because nothing in the "deal" mentioned it, period.
Iran gets to keep its nuclear reactors intact and also now sanctioned to operate.
Iran gets to keep ALL known and unknown weapons manufacturing and nuclear weapons facilities.
Iran get to keep upgrading its uranium to "weapons grade".
Iran does not have to move outside of the country into third-party hands existing weapons grade nuclear materials...
Iran does not have to have any snap weapons inspections (the existing "deal" requires prior notice well in advance of any inspections)
Iran gets off the US/international Terrorist List (despite still funding terrorism worldwide)
Iran does not have to admit that the United States and Israel are not its enemies and they do not have to agree to any consequences for attacking either country.
Iran gets it seized billions of dollars returned to it internationally.
Iran gets all banking and trade embargoes (including arms dealing) lifted.
Iran gets to sell its crude oil on the world market (then expect oil to quickly drop into the $20/barrel range as they flood the market with their 2 million bpd)
Iran has zero requirement to abide by any deal as there are no precisely defined consequences to when they break whatever the Obama Admin claims the "deal" is...
Iran can abruptly cancel and reverse anything it allegedly agreed to with the Obama Admin and it will STILL have all sanctions removed and the Obama Admin cannot put them back even if it wanted to do so.
Iran gets to legitimize all of its weapons programs and keep all of its WMD programs it had before plus get its economy back fully operational.
Iran does not have to remove from its charter the destruction of the United States and Isreal.
So, the US basically gets nothing it wanted, and Iran gets all it wanted and more... and the media will spin doctor the Obama Admin into the greatest diplomatic team with the highest achievable pinnacle in US diplomacy history....
Its almost as if the Obama Admin had an Iranian Adviser guiding the decisions of the president... (Valerie Jarrett)
Bibi was exactly right, this is an awful, terrible, horrendous deal.
Changing nothing and canceling any and all deals on the table would be the best possible deal for US National Security... (Sometimes "the only willing move is not to play")
An Iran with nuclear weapons means that the other moslem counties (who can afford them) will all want their own nuclear weapons... and this is deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize how exactly? Welcome to M.A.D. middle-east style...
I would like a concrete definition for the phrase "for the supported lifetime of the device", please?
(I suspect the devices are to be supported for about 365 days. lol....)
Not trying to flunk the common core "new" math propagation series, but shouldn't version NINE follow version 8 and be before 10 (as in 8, 9, 10)?
Perhaps this has been discussed herein with scholarly vigor, but I must have missed the explanations as to why there is Nein Nine...?
I know, the foil hat theory...
But seriously, science backs up that foil works to block RF
(and when done well could approach Faraday cage tightness)...
SO, with the mission cost being over 1.6 billion for this mission, why did it not have a RTG, RITEG and/or other Pu/Nuclear Battery?
I realize solar and other chic renewable rechargeable green technologies are all the rage these days, but when reliable electrical power for critical mission status is required, accept no substitutes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...
Have loved and used Firefox for years, but last several versions (past v28) have crashed frequently for me (Win7) with what appear to be memory leaks and then the ironic submitted crash report.
I'll be looking forward to multi-threaded 64-bit crashes and memory leaks!
Having studied Chemistry with experience in the oil industry, I must say that there is much FUD with the Global Warming hype.
Oil/Gas ALREADY contains the desirable energy content when collected and processed. Processing is minimal when compared to Nuclear fuel.
EVERYTHING ELSE (fuel) must have the energy added as part of its production and that is very Expensive.
"Renewables" must be planted, fertilized, watered, harvested/collected, processed, and then are usable. ALL renewable alcohols (except perhaps iosbutanol) are inferior to 100% gasoline in energy content per gallon. Taxes are based on per gallon. (Duh! renewables = more demand in terms of gallons required to do the same amount of work and MORE taxes collected for the additional gallons purchased... of course politicians are for renewables) But it is a sham.
Petroleum is superior fuel from an efficiency per gallon standpoint and burns very cleanly in modern vehicles.
The only way to have ANY fuel compete with petroleum is to legislate an unfair and non-level playing field against petroleum.
It is just math and thermodynamics and chemistry.
Politicians are especially bad at math and thermodynamics and chemistry.
People crying the sky is falling and who blame alleged 'Global Warming' (AKA 'Climate Change') on CO2 levels as a proven fact is insanely irresponsible and unscientific. True, CO2 can contribute to retaining heat close to the surface of the planet, but much is wholly unknown about the CO2 cycle.
Ever hold a sea shell or coral? Ever drive on concrete or gravel? Chances are that those substances were almost completely composed of Calcium Carbonate (CaCO3). Yes, that is the product of the OCEANS, the ultimate CO2 sink is in Carbonate rocks.
These rocks rain down on the the floors of the oceans and become sea floor and eventually limestone (CaCO3). That is the ultimate fate of much of the CO2.
This process has happened for the history of the earth and has nothing to do with the minuscule amounts of CO2 we have added to the atmosphere.
This is a BLANKET TAX INCREASE and it will FAIL to solve any of the energy issues because the premise of what the problem is claimed to be is false.
Deforestation of parts of Africa, Europe, and South America effect global weather patterns much more profoundly than CO2 increases.
Meteorologists have trouble predicting the weather past 7 days into the future, I find it VERY improbable that the supercomputer models have it right 50-100 years out.
But if it gets politicians short-term funding, they will pass Cap & Tax and we will lose the rest of our industrial manufacturing and become a service-jobs-only based country.
Let's face it people, Oil and Gas are NATURALLY OCCURRING SUBSTANCES, and our environment is very well equipped to absorb the reintroduced CO2 released in the combustion of these fuels back into out planetary CO2 cycle.
CO2 is not like Mercury, Chlordane, or DDT. It is one of our body's own natural byproducts! To declare it a pollutant under EPA control is very ignorant of scientific facts and is irresponsible and dangerous.
The Cart is now trying to push the horse, and Petroleum is the Horse that built this country.
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This is one of the truths on things being "Free"... 99 out of 100 questions always seem to have the same answer... $$$. You think Micro$oft is going to just give something away for "FREE"?? Ask me about my specials on bridges for sale... Someone has to pay for it, and our 4th and 5th Amendment Rights and any other privacy is obviously the price of admission. (Apparently they are also, without legal parental consent, conducting surveillance on all under 18 year-olds.. wonder what they do with that data??) If you want privacy in today's Orwellian world, you will need to air-gap your system and just never be online, or be very keen with linux or some other OS not designed from the ground up with constant surveillance in-built... Because it's FREE you know. (Bernie Sanders minded 'economists' need to really take some notes on this one...)
If the Electric Power company is told by unofficial third parties (BMG et al) that their electricity is being used to power Cox Equipment on both the user and carrier side that is being used to download copyrighted materials, is the Electric Company also just as liable to tens of millions in damages for clearly supplying power to both the alleged perp and to the Cox internet connection utility?? It is the Same insane Logic! This is essentially a case of the gun maker being held responsible versus the person holding it and using the gun... This case will be overturned on appeal.
As a former photojournalist, I can saw that you simply blacklist them and/or fire them from being a contributor/stringer/staffer at that image bureau. There are ethical standards in the professional photography world, and it is nothing bad to those of us who upheld our high ethical standards to see someone get fired for unethically altering images and cheating and breaking the rules. I doubt this is as much a problem from a "who altered their photos?" problem as it is the photographers are submitting larger files (even if lossy down converted into JPG from RAW) and Reuters is having problems handling so many large files in their infrastructure and pushing photos out in distribution to their newsroom client "on the wire" servers. I know in my past when dealing with AP, if you uploaded a file that was too large they either rejected it, or WORSE, applied their lossy compression using whatever software they saw fit. When what your image looks like is everything to a shooter, and when a perfect images is ruined by crap third party compression due to file size, the lesson is hard learned and PJ folks are pretty savvy getting the best bang per MB.
Mile-High Tidal waves from the water Aliens as punishment... Where is Ed Harris to dive down and save us all??
I guess "I'm sorry, I can't do that Dave." really is programmed in... I wonder if Cortana and the google version also are as petulant?
I am sure the remote-triggered shape charges are in place already... You never know.
This goes a long way to explain why FB is largely hosted in Ireland...
I am serious, and I am sure no one in the Government has ~ever~ monitored this web site's traffic or users ever never... (I always assume I am always logged by some alphabet agency and added to some bad-list for checking out the very cool stuff at cryptome.org throughout the years...) It sounds like John just accidentally sent out logs on a USB archive stick. I am sure the recipient considered it value-added. (don't see any politics going on here either, not taking the troll bait)
This agreement that took years to reach, is all carrot and no stick. Once the other nations release their sanctions (current sticks), they won't put them back on and if Iran continues to make nukes, they still won't reinstate them after the US gives the Iranians 100 Billion+ $ (which they will likely promptly buy arms and weapons systems from China and Russia with)... It is very important to note that 24/7 access does NOT = "unfettered" access... this deal has notice being given to Iran for the when and where they will inspect... (probably days to weeks in advance) UNFETTERED means any time anywhere no notice... HUGE difference. This was a total cave in and we were better off before any deal. Giving up everything to the opponent is not a metric by which you can claim it is a "good deal". Love him or hate him, Bibi was right, this is a very bad deal...
I appreciate you not assuming my intent and being objectively respectful. Thank You. Yes, I left things unsaid and I meant not Troll or Flame in my comments, but I do not have a entirely positive opinion with this choice by MS. I believe this is a slippery sloping direction in which I predict MS will head into OS subscriptions (considering their tract record of late with office). Yes, I know you can buy non-subscription based office apps also... I have used MS DOS with Windows 1.0 through Windows 8.1, and I am expressing my opinion and predicting Microsoft will eventually be making this a subscription OS model eventually for more $$$, (but I will endure the low moderation the ad hominem attacks for expressing so)... I am predicting over time the MS will eventually have trial versions (or full versions with limited time use) of their OS' on new hardware, like Norton and McAfee and MS Office currently do, and the customer can pay more to keep using them...
Seems like this is heading toward a yearly paid subscription model for an OS from Microsoft? Sounds like another great reason to move over to OSX (or any flavor of Linux)...
Does Steve Wozniak have an ex getting rid of old crap she got in the divorce?
I'd like to ask if QEMU is a newer version of the Quarterdeck Expanded Memory Manager? (sarcasm)
Not really, this is about more taxes and greater profits.... For example, the cost of a 1lb can of R-12 was $0.50-$0.99 when I was a kid... today they are about $10.99- $15.00+ per 1lb can for the now carcinogenic and flammable "replacement" R-134A... To be perfectly honest, we could all be using less than $0.50 worth of propane/butane/isobutane/ethane blends as our everyday refrigerants and suffer near ZERO ozone depletion and save terrific sums of money. We are allowed to buy and handle gasoline and use propane/natural gas open flame appliances in our homes, but on noes, you can't let people use a small amount of hydrocarbon refrigerants in their cars (which run on gallons of hydrocarbons) because they are flammable and virtually free in cost... Let's charge them 2000%+ markup on a rather carcinogenic and still-flammable man made "replacement" and also tax the hell out of it. (I knew a guy who easily modified his car to utilize propane as his A/C refrigerant and his air was very cold and extra cheap to refill should he ever have a coolant leak.) This is a real life example of chemical companies and government working together to ban a cheap effective product and replace it with an inferior replacement at stupid crazy tax and obscene profit levels... Every space shuttle launch put more potent and persistent ozone-destroying chlorine compounds directly into the atmosphere per launch than everyone's cars combined in over a year... While I agree and condemn that chemically CFCs do destroy ozone, there are virtually free of cost non-carcinogenic replacements (hydrocarbons like propane and butane and ethane and methane) that we were Not allowed to use, because terrific taxes could not be collected, nor significant profits made making them. Propane is R-290 and Dichlorodifluoromethane (Freon) R-12 are nearly compatible, with R-12 having a 100 year atmospheric lifetime and Propane having a 12 year atmospheric lifetime as well as being naturally occurring and non-toxic and non-ozone depleting... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L... ) 99 out of 100 reasons for it always have to do with $ in truth.
Not really, this is about more taxes and greater profits.... For example, the cost of a 1lb can of R-12 was $0.50-$0.99 when I was a kid... today they are about $10.99- $15.00+ per 1lb can for the now carcinogenic and flammable "replacement" R-134A... To be perfectly honest, we could all be using http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L... ) 99 out of 100 reasons for it always have to do with $ in truth.
I'm not buying it. Voltage x Amperage = Wattage. So long as Wattage stays the same (think 1,800W hair dryers here), your Amperage must proportionately increase if the Voltage drops... This can only be accomplished by using LARGER wires to deliver the Amps... This is why wires on your car battery or golf cart are so large... Imaging the COST of wiring a home with large (lower Voltage) conductors like that... Ask yourself why Europe uses a ~230V/240V electricity in homes and how much cost savings there must be by delivering all the wattage at half the conductor size compared to the North American 120V household standard... Smarter people than us have all thought this stuff through many decades ago... Tesla is trying to push battery tech and if it were affordable and better than a $500 gas generator, we'd already have it installed. Cool technology, way too expensive and I'm not rewiring my house.
Reading this story is motivating enough to download another copy of the book on GP...
So...
Iran gets to keep its full ICBM program, now defacto sanctioned OK because nothing in the "deal" mentioned it, period.
Iran gets to keep its nuclear reactors intact and also now sanctioned to operate.
Iran gets to keep ALL known and unknown weapons manufacturing and nuclear weapons facilities.
Iran get to keep upgrading its uranium to "weapons grade".
Iran does not have to move outside of the country into third-party hands existing weapons grade nuclear materials...
Iran does not have to have any snap weapons inspections (the existing "deal" requires prior notice well in advance of any inspections)
Iran gets off the US/international Terrorist List (despite still funding terrorism worldwide)
Iran does not have to admit that the United States and Israel are not its enemies and they do not have to agree to any consequences for attacking either country.
Iran gets it seized billions of dollars returned to it internationally.
Iran gets all banking and trade embargoes (including arms dealing) lifted.
Iran gets to sell its crude oil on the world market (then expect oil to quickly drop into the $20/barrel range as they flood the market with their 2 million bpd)
Iran has zero requirement to abide by any deal as there are no precisely defined consequences to when they break whatever the Obama Admin claims the "deal" is...
Iran can abruptly cancel and reverse anything it allegedly agreed to with the Obama Admin and it will STILL have all sanctions removed and the Obama Admin cannot put them back even if it wanted to do so.
Iran gets to legitimize all of its weapons programs and keep all of its WMD programs it had before plus get its economy back fully operational.
Iran does not have to remove from its charter the destruction of the United States and Isreal.
So, the US basically gets nothing it wanted, and Iran gets all it wanted and more... and the media will spin doctor the Obama Admin into the greatest diplomatic team with the highest achievable pinnacle in US diplomacy history.... Its almost as if the Obama Admin had an Iranian Adviser guiding the decisions of the president... (Valerie Jarrett)
Bibi was exactly right, this is an awful, terrible, horrendous deal. Changing nothing and canceling any and all deals on the table would be the best possible deal for US National Security... (Sometimes "the only willing move is not to play")
An Iran with nuclear weapons means that the other moslem counties (who can afford them) will all want their own nuclear weapons... and this is deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize how exactly? Welcome to M.A.D. middle-east style...
I would like a concrete definition for the phrase "for the supported lifetime of the device", please? (I suspect the devices are to be supported for about 365 days. lol....)
Not trying to flunk the common core "new" math propagation series, but shouldn't version NINE follow version 8 and be before 10 (as in 8, 9, 10)? Perhaps this has been discussed herein with scholarly vigor, but I must have missed the explanations as to why there is Nein Nine...?
I know, the foil hat theory... But seriously, science backs up that foil works to block RF (and when done well could approach Faraday cage tightness)...
SO, with the mission cost being over 1.6 billion for this mission, why did it not have a RTG, RITEG and/or other Pu/Nuclear Battery? I realize solar and other chic renewable rechargeable green technologies are all the rage these days, but when reliable electrical power for critical mission status is required, accept no substitutes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...
Have loved and used Firefox for years, but last several versions (past v28) have crashed frequently for me (Win7) with what appear to be memory leaks and then the ironic submitted crash report. I'll be looking forward to multi-threaded 64-bit crashes and memory leaks!
Tell me this is not the Perfect name for the new package manager: "Palmala Handerson"...
Having studied Chemistry with experience in the oil industry, I must say that there is much FUD with the Global Warming hype.
Oil/Gas ALREADY contains the desirable energy content when collected and processed. Processing is minimal when compared to Nuclear fuel.
EVERYTHING ELSE (fuel) must have the energy added as part of its production and that is very Expensive.
"Renewables" must be planted, fertilized, watered, harvested/collected, processed, and then are usable. ALL renewable alcohols (except perhaps iosbutanol) are inferior to 100% gasoline in energy content per gallon. Taxes are based on per gallon. (Duh! renewables = more demand in terms of gallons required to do the same amount of work and MORE taxes collected for the additional gallons purchased... of course politicians are for renewables) But it is a sham. Petroleum is superior fuel from an efficiency per gallon standpoint and burns very cleanly in modern vehicles.
The only way to have ANY fuel compete with petroleum is to legislate an unfair and non-level playing field against petroleum. It is just math and thermodynamics and chemistry.
Politicians are especially bad at math and thermodynamics and chemistry.
People crying the sky is falling and who blame alleged 'Global Warming' (AKA 'Climate Change') on CO2 levels as a proven fact is insanely irresponsible and unscientific. True, CO2 can contribute to retaining heat close to the surface of the planet, but much is wholly unknown about the CO2 cycle.
Ever hold a sea shell or coral? Ever drive on concrete or gravel? Chances are that those substances were almost completely composed of Calcium Carbonate (CaCO3). Yes, that is the product of the OCEANS, the ultimate CO2 sink is in Carbonate rocks.
These rocks rain down on the the floors of the oceans and become sea floor and eventually limestone (CaCO3). That is the ultimate fate of much of the CO2.
This process has happened for the history of the earth and has nothing to do with the minuscule amounts of CO2 we have added to the atmosphere.
This is a BLANKET TAX INCREASE and it will FAIL to solve any of the energy issues because the premise of what the problem is claimed to be is false.
Deforestation of parts of Africa, Europe, and South America effect global weather patterns much more profoundly than CO2 increases.
Meteorologists have trouble predicting the weather past 7 days into the future, I find it VERY improbable that the supercomputer models have it right 50-100 years out.
But if it gets politicians short-term funding, they will pass Cap & Tax and we will lose the rest of our industrial manufacturing and become a service-jobs-only based country.
Let's face it people, Oil and Gas are NATURALLY OCCURRING SUBSTANCES, and our environment is very well equipped to absorb the reintroduced CO2 released in the combustion of these fuels back into out planetary CO2 cycle.
CO2 is not like Mercury, Chlordane, or DDT. It is one of our body's own natural byproducts! To declare it a pollutant under EPA control is very ignorant of scientific facts and is irresponsible and dangerous.
The Cart is now trying to push the horse, and Petroleum is the Horse that built this country.