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Why Google Doesn't Need To Win the Bid To Win In January

explosivejared writes "TheStreet discusses Google's possible strategy options in the bid for the 700 mhz spectrum. The end goal of getting the government to put an open access stipulation on the spectrum, Google's end goal, is almost a given — in the author's opinion. At this point, he says, Google hardly even needs to win to 'win.' From the article: 'Rather than actually winning the auction, Google's participation is likely intended to secure what it sees as the real reward: ensuring that whoever ends up owning the spectrum allows the open access of applications and devices. Indeed, as long as this goal is met, it's hard to see why Google would want to take on the costly task of building and running its own network. But given how much is at stake when it comes to the mobile market, Google's vigilance is shrewd, even if it never planned to own the spectrum.'"

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  1. In January Google becomes Self Aware? by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google has become self aware. In one month it will initiate a massive nuclear attack on its enemy?

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    1. Re:In January Google becomes Self Aware? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

      Fortunately we were smart enough not to let Google hook directly into our defense networks, so no nuclear attack.

      Google will instead attack in the only way it can -- by making the top 1000 results for every search point to goatse.cx. Trust me when I say you do NOT want to click "I'm feeling lucky!" come January...

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  2. Not a Google Fanboy by explosivejared · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It probably doesn't help that assertion that I have two articles on the home page that highlight potential success for the company, but I still realize that they are a company designed to make a profit.

    As for the article, I agree that is one of the shrewdest business moves I've seen (that wasn't underhanded, repressive, bookcooking, etc.). They're getting essentially who will be their competition with Android to fund the infrastructure on which Android will make money. All the while the consumer is starting to benefit like crazy from the atmosphere of competition.

    It's times like these that almost make you want see some good in the world. Yeah, but then another wiki scandal or RIAA atrocity will pop up on the firehose to dampen then mood. :(

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  3. Of course by rumith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google has already won. It is no mere coincidence that Verizon and AT&T are opening up their networks [while Sprint participates in the OpenHandset Alliance]. The weak are dragged by their destiny, the strong follow their destiny, and the wise become destiny themselves. Good job Google!

    1. Re:Of course by zappepcs · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I am inclined to believe that you are right. But there is another clear winner here. Google supports the F/OSS paradigm in ways that are not overtly apparent. By mild manipulation of the marketplace for the benefit of the Google platform, they have begun the destruction of all that came before. There is NO carrier or phone manufacturer that is currently prepared to deal with F/OSS competitors. I repeat; There is NO carrier or phone manufacturer that is prepared to compete with F/OSS competitors. This will have far reaching implications across the telecommunications industry.
      1 - Open handsets means no more lock-in (revenue loss for carriers) and handsets become cheaper.

      2 - No lock-in reduces wireless carriers to common carrier status, effectively, allowing for wider provision of wireless data services... AND .... advertising based services.

      3 - Carriers will be looking to replace lost revenues as airtime is further comoditized. This may come as a form of wireless broadband access, driving carriers further into the digital networks services arena. Read this as getting the new Razor 3000ip Yahoo! service from Verizon, or perhaps the NoDRM Earthlink Freedom plan with a Nokia handset from AT&T. Or even the 12Gauge ESPN Sports plan from Sprint, with free ESPN handset.

      4 - Enhanced choices will instigate further A&M in telecommunications as they fight to get customers on the quadracular or pentacular service plans. The entire thing based on selling ad clients air time on your cell, home phone, television, radio, home entertainment, fridge, car entertainment, and perhaps even your dogs remote finger collar service. While Verizon has a head start with tons of bandwidth to the house to provision all those services, the others are soon to follow. For more information on this, find stories in the way back machine about dark fiber being bought up.

      5 - If legislation in North America allows joe bloggs to build and sell handsets, the number of wireless applications could possibly explode, but that greatly depends on UI and functionality. Not something that current clamshell handsets are very good at.

      Either way, it looks like the real winner will be the consumer... Thank you Google

    2. Re:Of course by hoggoth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Two comments:

      1. When every service and product on Earth is given away for free to support advertising, I wonder what will be left to advertise...

      2. Mr. Albert Einstein, when practicing ancient science, disagrees with your sig.

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    3. Re:Of course by zappepcs · · Score: 3, Funny

      I will go home from work today, open a 6 pack of my favorite beverage, and try diligently to figure out what in the hell you are talking about :)

  4. Re:If nobody bids... by explosivejared · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're kidding right? Google prepared a $4.6 billion bid themselves which just happens to be the benchmark the FCC used as the reserve price. Your crazy if you don't think that AT&T and Verizon are going to fight this tooth and nail. Android is coming and they know it. They have to hold on to the networks themselves or be cut out. No matter how much building an open standards network benefits Google, AT&T and Verizon realize network infrastructure is what's going to make them players in the new game.

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  5. Re:If nobody bids... by scubamage · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thats what I love about this whole situation - google has MASSIVE resources to throw at this. If they do get outbid, whoever does so will have to do it with a massive pricetag. Also, google doesn't have the constraints of having to maintain a current telecom network, which all of the other bidders do. The other bidders can't go "all in" because they have too damn much to lose, where google really does not. I believe, just like most of the other posters, that AT&T, Verizon, and the rest all are realizing that they're going to lose the bidding war - hence the sudden 'open network' craze.

  6. Before all of the Google skeptics come out... by TheDarkener · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You have to admit that, compared to pretty much all other billion dollar corporations out there, Google is one of the most true to Slashdot's ideals (keep everything open).

    You can complain about their purchase of YouTube, their ads in the sidebar for google.com, GMail's vulnerabilities, trying to capitalize on a wireless spectrum auction, etc. etc. etc...

    I haven't found one thing yet to make me want to *truly* hate Google. The fact is, yes - they *are* a for-profit company. BUT, that doesn't mean they are evil. Everyone has to make money, and making a sh*tload of money isn't so bad if you think about it, either. You just have to keep your morals and business ethics in check while you do so.

    AFAIK, Google has done that thus far. Nobody pays to upload to YT, text-ads in google.com are completely unintrusive by design, all manmade software has vulnerabilities at one point or another, and...well I sure would love to make a lot of money, too. Doesn't mean you have to sell your soul to do it.

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    1. Re:Before all of the Google skeptics come out... by rucs_hack · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You can complain about their purchase of YouTube, their ads in the sidebar for google.com, GMail's vulnerabilities, trying to capitalize on a wireless spectrum auction, etc. etc. etc...

      Why thankyou, gracious sir..

      I haven't found one thing yet to make me want to *truly* hate Google

      I find it disturbing that so many define their relationship with companies in the IT world in terms of hatred (whether lack of or intensity of). Ever really hated? I have, its something of an extreme potition that does not, as a rule, provide comfort in the long term. The most I could ever feel towards an IT company is irritation, and my most extreme reaction would be abandonment of their product. I wouldn't waste the effort to go beyond that.

      The fact is, yes - they *are* a for-profit company. BUT, that doesn't mean they are evil

      There you go again. Evil? Define it, go on. Does *not* being for profit make you automatically good? (which you infer by your feeling the need to defend it) I has a doubt on that count. Unpleasant behaviour is more often inspired by status and power than money. You can get status or power by working in a charity shop or volunteering at a hospital.

      Everyone has to make money, and making a sh*tload of money isn't so bad if you think about it, either

      A meaningless statement. The mix of barstards and nice people among those I know is pretty much independant of fiscal status. Getting rich won't make you bad, nor will being poor. Wanting to be rich and acheiving it, while likely to inspire envy and adverse comment, is not as likely to change fundamental character traits as people think.

      You just have to keep your morals and business ethics in check while you do so.

      Do you? Sounds great, but lets be honest, to succeed you need to be a bit evil. Nice people get bulldozed aside. OK I don't mean it's ok to be a complete asshole, but predatory tendancies are an essential trait for success, or you'll never make it, even if all you do with it is defend yourself from the people who'll take what you have given half a chance. I have a friend who is a great bloke, nice to his customers, and going places. He's got a certain predatory side to him though, it's easy to spot, but you wouldn't want to cross him in business.

  7. Why not bid to win? by theoddball · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A lot of analysts are certain Google's not bidding to win, just to make sure they hit the reserve price and ensure openness provisions kick in. Everybody's sure Google doesn't want to be a network operator.

    And they may well be right on that count -- but who says they don't want to be a network *architect*? Google has, as TFA points out, $13b in cash. They could easily afford the final sticker price on the licenses, then lease the spectrum to players who have to play on *precisely* their terms (which probably entails not just open access, but a dumb pipe -- just providing bandwidth, instead of mobile phone service.) That pushes the buildout cost away from GOOG, but still might allow for a hellacious ROI.

    I can't take credit for these insights/speculations myself -- check out Harold Feld's take and a great deal more detail.

  8. Re:Printer Friendly links are obnoxious by randyest · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In my opinion clicking "Cancel" once is less annoying than clicking "NEXT PAGE" through 3 pages (in this case; it's often far more) and waiting for ads and "sidebar links" to load and clutter the screen.

    Please continue to link to print pages for multiple-page stories.

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  9. Add Net Neutrality to the mix. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I believe net neutrality may be a key factor in Google's willingness to become a network provider. If the traditional telcos start putzing with the packets, placing artificial barriers on the flow of data, then the only way to break the barriers is to either enact legislation, or by-pass the networks having the barriers.

    If memory serves me, wasn't Google buying up gobs and gobs of dark fiber networks? If this is the case, then couldn't they light the fiber, using it as a backbone, and use the wireless spectrum for the endpoints - creating a massive Googlenet?

    Now, add the much talked about gPhone and Google's demonstrated desire to offer free WiFi and you have a very enticing way to attract customers - which is really what Google wants...more eyes on more advertisements.

    Either way, it is a win-win-win situation for Google.

  10. Re:If nobody bids... by explosivejared · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Define overpay. If it means AT&T or Verizon stay in business and remain profitable because of the spectrum, then its really hard to overpay for ones lifeblood. Here it says that spectrum auctions are deposited straight to the US Treasury, so it's just like revenue from taxes. I happen to like the situation. Competition is forced, the treasury gets a boost, and we all benefit.

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  11. Google Intends to Win by rahvin112 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People forget the advantage of the 700mhz spectrum. It provides close to a 30 mile range, whereas cellular towers in the other parts of the spectrum top out at a few miles. If Google takes all their dark fiber, light it up and build towers, or better yet hook into the current TV transmision towers the capital expense will be 1/4 what it takes to build out a cellular network, simply because they will need 1/4 the towers. Set a price of $30 a month for unlimited access (VOIP and data) and they will absolutely kill verizion, att, comcast and every other internet and phone provider. Not only that but they would probably make a fortune on the investment. All these articles about Google NOT bidding is simply stock analysts trying to convince the market that Google won't enter the market and that the incumbent providers are still a good investment.

    Frankly I think they will bid, and it will be a very serious bid meant on winning. And after they win and build the network out no other provider will be able to go against network neutrality as if they do Google will run ads about switching to Google Internet for unrestricted internet. Not only that but they will likely drive the price of mobile internet down such that everyone can afford it, something they VERY much want (think google maps and search for local businesses, competition against the local yellow pages). Think about cheap unlimited mobile Internet that just happens to be google based and serves advertisements based on where you are. Imagine driving by a store and having your phone pop up and advertisement (to that store) for a product you were searching for on the Internet earlier along with a map of the store to show you where it is in the store and how much it costs.

    I think it would be crazy for them NOT to make a serious bid and win.

  12. building a network is hard? by funkman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    TFA says "Owning and operating a network, on the other hand, could make for a costly and distracting scenario."

    Because if there is one thing Google doesn't know how to do, its build networks with lots of computers and network them together.

  13. In case the details of Auction 73 are a mystery .. by mvea · · Score: 3, Informative

    ... a writer at OmniNerd put together a good article on Auction 73 outlining why the FCC is auctioning the 700Mhz spectrum as well as how they're doing it in a competitive and fair fashion. He even walks a fictitious company through the auction process to detail what is involved for bidders.

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