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Robots That Bounce on Water

inghamb87 writes "The way water striders walk on water was discovered years ago. The insect uses its long legs to help evenly distribute its tiny body weight. The weight is distributed over a large area so that the fragile skin formed by surface tension supports the bug on the water. However, the ability of water striders to jump onto water without sinking has baffled scientists, until now." If nothing less, you need to see the picture: it's awesome.

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  1. Jesus by hernyo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did Jesus use the same technology?

    1. Re:Jesus by pushing-robot · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, that was Mecha-Jesus.

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    2. Re:Jesus by Kranfer · · Score: 4, Funny

      As a jew, I am forced to say yes... along with his Jedi powers of turning water into wine and healing as well. ::smirks::

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    3. Re:Jesus by Kranfer · · Score: 2, Funny

      I do keep hollywood in mind. Since Jesus used this technology, I now expect a "When Jesus Attacks" to be put on the air, since there is currently a writers strike. Boards below the water is so low tech... a Mech Warrior Jesus Christ is much more interesting to be made into a movie...

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    4. Re:Jesus by Gilmoure · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In Blazing Saddles, Mel Brooks (playing the governor) wears a coat with GOV on the back. In Hebrew, Gov mean back. Funniest thing I've ever seen.

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    5. Re:Jesus by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Last I checked, Jesus was Jewish..."

      What? You actually walked up to him asked him to 'whip it out' and verified his circumcision?

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    6. Re:Jesus by pnewhook · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think his point is that as a Jew, implying that Jesus' miracles were "mind-tricks" at best and total BS at worst beats the alternative that they actually killed the Messiah.

      Sorry for the totally off topic post but that kinda drives me crazy when Christians blame the Jews for killing Jesus. Of course they killed him because they were ALL Jewish - including Jesus. The Jewish leaders had him killed for sacrelige, very much like the Christian leaders in the dark ages had fellow Christians killed for similar reasons.

      Not saying you are saying this but when Christians blame the Jews for killing Christ as some sort of conspiracy against the Christians, they are completely forgetting that the religion known as Christianity did not come until long after Jesus was dead. In his time and shortly after, it was simply a sect variation of Judaism.

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  2. Grammar!!! by dsginter · · Score: 4, Funny

    If nothing less, you need to see the picture: it was awesome.

    There. Fixed that for you.

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    1. Re:Grammar!!! by PlatyPaul · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well, if you don't mind the sources, check out this alternate coverage (with pictures):

      Telegraph.co.uk article
      ENN article

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  3. I for one... by Bazman · · Score: 4, Funny

    welcome our new water-walking robotic overlords... with some surface-tension reducing soap :) Muahahahahahah!

    1. Re:I for one... by dsginter · · Score: 4, Informative

      with some surface-tension reducing soap

      I'm gonna take a guess to say that you learned this from Mr. Wizard?

      I remember this episode well - it is a simple but very awe-inspiring (at least from a geek's perspective) experiment. It goes like this:

            1) Fill a cookie tray with water
            2) Pepper the top of the water in order to *see* the movements of the surface tension
            3) Carefully place a small amount of soap in the center of the tray
            4) Watch the pepper scatter to the edges of the pan as the tension breaks

      If you have a kid, then you need to go do this experiment with them NOW!

      RIP Don Herbert - you are one of the main reasons that I am a geek today.

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    2. Re:I for one... by SQLGuru · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm sorry....all of my foil is being used to make hats.

    3. Re:I for one... by dstiggy · · Score: 2, Funny

      1) Fill a cookie tray with water
      2) Pepper the top of the water in order to *see* the movements of the surface tension
      3) Carefully place a small amount of soap in the center of the tray
      4) Watch the pepper scatter to the edges of the pan as the tension breaks
      5)???
      6)Profit!!!

      fixed that for you
  4. My Life IS RUINED! by explosivejared · · Score: 3, Funny

    All my life I've been waiting to see an awesome picture about FRIKKIN ROBOTS THAT BOUNCE on water, and now it's apparently slashdotted! I'm gonna cry now.

    P.S. Hey taco if this is just some sick joke, and you gave a busted url, I'll kill you! Robots on water... you don't play around with that!

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    1. Re:My Life IS RUINED! by ookabooka · · Score: 5, Informative

      See, my life just got better because I have a great excuse to karma whore. Yay nyud mirror

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    2. Re:My Life IS RUINED! by Sitelutions · · Score: 2, Informative

      We're working on it - it should be responsive now. After a few friendly suggestions, they've installed WP-Cache on their site, and they've also been advised to submit static HTML pages in links to /. and Digg, or use Coral Cache.

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  5. The Picture Might Be Worth It... by __aagmrb7289 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But I believe we've had a theory for this for awhile now. In August of 2003, MIT published some information on the subject. Here's a link:

    http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2003/robostrider.html

    Here's some relevant content from that link:

    MIT researchers report in the Aug. 7 issue of Nature that they now understand how the insects known as water striders skim effortlessly across the surface of ponds and oceans.

    And:

    Using mathematics, high-speed photography and a variety of flow visualization techniques, Bush, mathematics graduate student David L. Hu and mechanical engineering graduate student Brian Chan uncovered the true way in which water striders walk on water.

    As the insect rests on the surface, the tips of its thin legs create miniscule valleys. It sculls the middle set of its three pairs of legs like oars, causing the water behind those legs to propel it forward as the surface of the valley rebounds like a trampoline. Although the rowing motion does create tiny waves, "the waves do not play a significant role in the momentum transfer necessary for propulsion," the researchers wrote. "The momentum transfer is primarily in the form of subsurface vortices."

    1. Re:The Picture Might Be Worth It... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's how they walk on water. This is how they jump.

    2. Re:The Picture Might Be Worth It... by __aagmrb7289 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Article Content (even Google cache is REALLY slow):

      The way water striders walk on water was discovered years ago. The insect uses its long legs to help evenly distribute its tiny body weight. The weight is distributed over a large area so that the fragile skin formed by surface tension supports the bug on the water. However, the ability of water striders to jump onto water without sinking has baffled scientists, until now.

      A team of researchers at Seoul National University, led by Ho-Young Kim and Duck-Gyu Lee, has finally answered that question. By using a highly water-repellent sphere, which mimicked the actions of the water strider's highly water-repellent legs, they were able to determine a small range of speeds at which the sphere or insect could hit the water and not sink.

      If the sphere hit too fast, it would shoot through the surface of the water. If it hit too slow, it would not bounce back and sink. The water strider is one of the fastest moving insects in the world. It can travel up to 100 times the length of its body in one second, equivalent to around 400 mph in human terms.

      Scientists hope to adapt this technology to the obvious sector; creepy sounding robots. One team at Carnegie Mellon University has already developed a small spider robot that can walk on water like the strider.

      The Korean scientists believe their discovery will help create robots that can travel over still bodies of water. They say the robots can be used to explore or monitor water quality. Also they could, and it's highly likely that they will, be used as a form of spy robot.

      While this is all well and good, and a touch unnerving since it reminds me of several scary sci-fi books, I'll be a lot more interested when they invent something that allows humans to walk on water this quickly.

  6. Rather short on information... by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I managed to view the site before it went down in flames under the slashdot effect. The picture was cool, but the article left much to be desired:

    How big is the robot?
    How much does it weigh?
    How fast can it move?
    How is it controlled?
    What is the range of speeds for this that was mentioned in the article?
    They mentioned applying it to sampling water quality, but wouldn't that disrupt the surface tension to sample the water right under the robot?

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  7. Great by gowakuwa · · Score: 2, Funny

    So Jesus was an insectoid alien or an intergalactic robot? Either way it had to be hard to intelligently design him, or her.

  8. Re:Move along, nothing to see here... by Antity-H · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hmm the text-only version is recommended since the images are loaded from the original site which is undergoing a nuclear meltdown right now.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/?p=592&strip=1

  9. Baffles science? by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 4, Informative
    Here's a related link: http://www.livescience.com/animals/041103_water_strider.html

    This one is erroneous in at least one way. It suggests that tiny bubbles trapped in hairs on the bug's legs make it float. Tosh! The bubbles are too small to make it boyant. What the bubbles do is increase the surface area which, in turn, increases the amount of surface tension "skin" that the bug walks on and therefore the carrying capacity.

    As most fly fishermen would tell you, surface tension is far stronger than you'd think. Hatching bugs struggle to get through the surface tension which keeps them under the surface. Once they break through they are able to sit and walk quite easily.

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  10. Never, ever, EVER do that! by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 5, Funny
    If nothing less, you need to see the picture: it's awesome.

    Never put a line like this in a /. summary. Do you want Congress to pass a law classifying /. as some kind of cyber-terror weapon? You can almost see smoke coming out of the ground around these poor bastards' data center.

  11. This is a crock of shit by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 4, Informative
    This is not science. This is bullshit.

    The "robot" spreads its weight out using the whole length of its legs in contact with the water. That is nothing like a water strider.

    A water strider walks on the **ends** of its legs (feet, if you will). For a far better description see http://www.livescience.com/animals/041103_water_strider.html.

    The only similarity is that they both use surface tension.

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    1. Re:This is a crock of shit by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is not science. This is bullshit.

      Of course it's fucking science, even if it isn't exactly what you hoped it would be. What makes this "not science"?!

      The "robot" spreads its weight out using the whole length of its legs in contact with the water. That is nothing like a water strider.

      So? So our robots aren't nearly as light as a water strider (I guarantee you the robot pictured weights a lot more than 15x a water strider), and require much greater surface area to stay afloat. Also we can't create legs with the tiny micro-hairs that allow the strider to stay afloat and jump on water so easily. What do you know, nature still wins, and we still have a lot of work to do to duplicate it.

      If that's the standard, pretty much all science is bullshit.

      The only similarity is that they both use surface tension.

      Well according to your link water striders don't even rely on surface tension.

      Nevertheless: Water-walking robot. Some people would think that's cool. But that would be those of us who appreciate advancements in the state of the art, not those who think anything less than the end goal is a 'crock of shit'.

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  12. Mirror / Additional Content by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Coral Cache seems to have a mirror of the image.
    http://aycu05.webshots.com.nyud.net:8090/image/34684/2000802596361707173_rs.jpg

    The article also links to this one, which has a different water walking robot overlord picture.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/12/07/sciwater107.xml

  13. Re:Link not working. by wizardforce · · Score: 2, Informative

    Anyone got a mirror for the mirror?
    here's your mirror mirror
    http://www.enn.com/sci-tech/article/26913
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  14. Water Striders... by homgran · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember going to a conference presentation by John Bush back in 2005 which detailed the physics behind water striders. His presentation was very good, and the video footage he presented was absolutely fantastic (see here and here). I think the work referenced in the main article isn't quite as groundbreaking as they'd have you believe. There has been quite a lot of work in this area over the last five years.

  15. Re:Forget the mirror.. Use the source! by Technician · · Score: 2, Informative

    I hunted for the video. In my search I came upon the original site, not the article talking about the site.

    http://nanolab.me.cmu.edu/projects/waterstrider/

    Here is the actual project including how it works (Pizo) photos of both prototypes, the light and dark one, and detail on the robotics in it.
    It includes 3 videos including the walking on water video.

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  16. Bigger version of the "awesome" picture by SiliconEntity · · Score: 3, Informative

    That picture is not actually from the new research, it is from old work at Carnegie-Mellon. Here is a bigger version:

    http://nanolab.me.cmu.edu/projects/waterstrider/STRIDE_water_strider_big.jpg

    It is part of the work of the NanoRobotics Labaratory at CMU.

  17. Jesus Cyborg (batteries not included) by Bushido+Hacks · · Score: 2, Funny
    Some how I think this robot will be marketed for evangelical purposes. And for that reason IT MUST BE DESTROYED!

    *In the voice of that BS Billy Graham book advert*
    Have you ever wondered why God never allowed for you to have the rich fullfilling life you think deserve? Are you tired of waiting for the rapture for God to smite democrats, Catholics, Muslims, people who hate George Bush, teachers who teach Darwinism, the Internet, and everyone else except for you and all your elitist God-fearing friends?
    Introducing the Billy Graham Jesus Cyborg.
    The Jesus Cyborg has been programmed using Bible technology by scientist who reject Darwinism and embrace Kirk Cameron's Banana ideology. Impress your friends. Forcible convert non-believers to your beliefs. Had enough with UN diplomacy? Send it to the Middle East to blow up Israeli-hating hethens! Use it to protest homosexuality at military funerals. Wherever your need to assert your crazy fundamental religious ideologies, or find the TV remote to watch Fox News, the Jesus Cyborg is there with the good book in one hand, a metal claw in the other, and a 12 gauge shotgun strapped to it back. Best of all It "walks" on water!. You can have your very own Jesus Cyborg for an annual donation to the Crystal Cathedral of $1000

    Warning! The Jesus Cyborg may have grand dillutions of what faith is. Keep indoors at all time and do not let it out side for any reason. Children should be supervised when using Jesus Cyborg as should small animals and the invalid. Jesus Cyborg runs on a combination of batteries and old peoples medication. Jesus Cyborg will generally try to escape the house once a month and try to solicit religious propoganda to the neighbors. If he escapes, contact them immediately and tell them to turn off all the lights. Made in China, so beware of lead paint.
    There is only one question I have for this robot: Would Jesus Cyborg wear a Rolex on His Television Show?
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