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Beamed Sonic Advertising Is Coming

newtley writes in with a story from Ad Age a few days back. "Advertisers are determined to get into your head by one means or another, and Holosonic Research Labs has found yet another way of invading your privacy in the name of forcing you pay attention. You're walking down a street in New York when all of a sudden, a woman's voice whispers 'Who's that? Who's There?' No, you weren't having a psychotic episode; you were being subjected without your permission to 'sound in a narrow beam, just like light.' It was coming at you from a rooftop speaker seven stories up."

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  1. Pandora's box by BWJones · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It makes one wonder about the concept of graffit... The process (usually illegal) of drawing symbols, images or words on private or public surfaces without permission. This really, is the process of using sonic graffiti that I can imagine would be readily open to hacking, sonic tagging and sonic vandalism. Of course this opens up all sorts of questions as well: What sorts of messages are appropriate to beam into someone's awareness? What about inappropriate messages? How about unintended consequences when someone with paranoid schizophrenia encounters these messages? What are the legal implications if someone else targets the same area with a different sonic message than the one intended by the advertiser?

    Personally, I find this advertising practice offensive and a little ignorant of where the possibilities may lead to. Furthermore, I am disappointed that A&E television would engage in this sort of thing, but A&E has been sliding down the slippery slope into crass, base appeal lately, attempting to go for shock factor at the expense of cultural sophistication. Back on topic: Would the advertiser consider it offensive if their message was sonically blocked via interfering sound waves? Would they consider someone else beaming messages into the same "acoustic space" unfair competition? Would they consider it vandalism? What are the liabilities if in the very unlikely possibility, a paranoid schizophrenic were to become violent in response to such messages? (note: only a very small percentage of paranoid schizophrenic patients are outwardly violent)

    If I lived in NYC, this would be a call to me for a little social experimentation with A&Es advertising campaign. But beyond that, think about the possibilities for social filtering, or even the surreptitious delivery of information, allowing the legal (or illegal) routing of people, goods and supplies via temporally discrete windows of sonic delivery.

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    1. Re:Pandora's box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It'd certainly be a prime target for hacking... What group of nerds wouldn't love to subvert something like this into whispering obscene messages, or decreeing random commandments from God? It'd be much better than a billboard, since it's more intrusive, you can watch each single person as they receive the message, and yet it would take longer time to discover the malfunction. Also susceptible to simple hardhacks like cranking the volume up to eleven.

    2. Re:Pandora's box by bladesjester · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Real Genius, but the voice is Jesus, not God

      You're both right.

      Weirdly, on the DVD it's Jesus and the version you see on tv generally says it's god.

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    3. Re:Pandora's box by egburr · · Score: 2, Interesting
      In my area (eastern PA) there is discussion in some counties about banning the new LED type billboards as they believe they will distract motorists.

      The LED strobes on school buses, trash trucks, and all manner of construction worker pickup trucks are very distracting to me. Even from a long distance away, they drag my eyes away from what I *should* be paying attention to: the vehicles and pedestrians near and ahead of me.

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    4. Re:Pandora's box by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In my area (eastern PA) there is discussion in some counties about banning the new LED type billboards as they believe they will distract motorists.

      As they believe they will? I suggest they drive up I-95N between the Delaware border and rt 476 during any time in which there is a medium level of traffic. There is a very large, active LED that changes advertisements every few seconds. On several occasions, I have watch traffic drop suddenly in speed from 55-70 down to 40-55, depending on the time of day (with accompanying panicked tromps on the brake pedal that is most people's first response to confusion). Now I guess that there's no proof, but the only thing in the location immediately prior to the speed drop has been that obnoxious billboard.

      Hell, it distracted me the first time (though I didn't pant my foot on the brake or even slow down) because when I saw something that was in motion as part of a sign, I thought that clearly something that was actively trying to get my attention was probably a message from DOT or something, warning of construction or traffic. Alas, no. It was an advertisement for a local radio station.

      But once a few people are dead, I'm sure they'll consider that the ridiculous thing may have been a contributing factor. Politicians are quick that way.

    5. Re:Pandora's box by bzipitidoo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The technology sounds (no pun intended) cool. The proposed use is very uncool. What a materialistic world view they have. The first use they think of is advertising. Cut to the chase and skip "what can we use this for" and go straight to "how can we make money with this".

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    6. Re:Pandora's box by rtb61 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In a lot of countries there are strong planning restrictions on signs, in terms of size, motion and illumination. Signs may identify and advertise but they specifically must not distract motorists. It requires a full building and planing application to get a sign approved, and even then the signs are restricted to advertising the business at the location of the sign and it is forbidden to advertise other companies (no billboards).

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  2. Only one reasonable approach... by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...for me if I encounter a device like this, is to leave and come back with a baseball bat and trash the device into pieces. This measure is clearly an invasion of privacy if I'm generous and assault if not so generous. I do not want to be bombarded by forced mind control that is advertising.

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    1. Re:Only one reasonable approach... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      uh... yeah... and when billlboards first came out people torched them....

      but now they are common... as people gave up.

      So I hope you don't give up and keep destroying them

      you know... defacing a billboard can be considered a terrirrst act now.... so...

      yeah...
      the world of enforced advertising...
      argh.

    2. Re:Only one reasonable approach... by Aetuneo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The thing about people talking to you, or yelling things, is that it is clear where it is coming from. When you cannot tell where something is coming from, you begin to think that you are going insane - especially if you are in a group and only you are targeted. In fact, if you want to take it a bit further, this fits the definition of torture: "any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as ... coercing him or a third person, ... when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity." I would think that this would have to be approved by some sort of public official or committee, and the executive who approves this would certainly be acting in an official capacity.

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  3. Re:Psychosis ahead ... by garcia · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... I could imagine that this advancement of the 'art of advertising' could do some harm to people that are not so stable.

    I'm stable, as far as I know, and it might just cause me to fucking kill someone if I happen to hear it. Thus, I'm not so certain that it's limited to those who have fragile psyches.

  4. But Imagine This In The Hands of the People by NeverVotedBush · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How much fun would it be to beam things at politicos speaking at rallies? Confuse them and make them say things they didn't mean?

    Or, by targeting the microphone itself, just speak directly to their audience?

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  6. It's more penetrating than that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I expect you will hear it. It's a collimated sound beam that vibrates the skull. Listeners describe it as seeming like a voice from inside.

    Woody Norris, the inventor of the device, spent some time spooking people at the mall. He claims he always told them what he'd done afterward, but you can see how someone might abuse such a thing. Easy to convince someone they're crazy.

    I'm glad the device is in Times Square. I hope as many advertisers use this as quickly as possible. Right now, only a tenth of the populace at most knows about these things. Everyone else is as vulnerable to trickery as the natives in any colonialist short story about explorers pretending to be gods.

    "Johnson, show the Ugabi your flashlight again!"
    Natives: "EV-ER-ED-EE! EV-ER-ED-EE!"

    Once enough companies are advertising this way, it'll be more like Scooby-Doo.

    "Farmer Stoutworthy was using this projector to beam a ghost onto the barn wall, and for his swamp-thing mask he used phosphorous paint."
    "I would have gotten away with it too, if you meddling kids had never been to a movie theatre or had a glow-in-the-dark toy!"

  7. Re:Psychosis ahead ... by NickFortune · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As things go, you would be 'not stable' by definition if you can not cope with what is/will be rated 'normal' :(

    The trouble is that "stable" is a relative term, not an absolute one. "Stable" means stable in a given environment. The question we ought to consider here is how far this particular initiative is going to move the definition of stable away from the current baseline.

    The worrying thing is that stability is most likely a bell curve. Which would mean that a small shift could result in a huge increase in instability in urban populations.

    I think this is a valid cause for concern

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  8. "to spare other people" by Chryana · · Score: 2, Interesting

    FTA: "If you set up a loudspeaker on the top of a building, everybody's going to hear that noise. But if you're only directing that sound to a specific viewer, you're never going to hear a neighbor complaint from street vendors or pedestrians. The whole idea is to spare other people."

    What the interviewee is conveniently omitting to mention is that putting a loudspeaker to blare all day in the street would be obviously illegal, so nobody is being "spared", we're just being forced to listen to advertising which is so invading that it would be illegal in normal circumstances.

  9. Under Existing Noise Laws by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It seems clear to me that noise laws that are currently described in terms of the dB level allowed on the street would have to be interpreted by a judge in terms of their effect on one's eardrum. So if these beamed messages appear to the listener's ear any different (eg. louder) than if they were played from a traditional speaker on the street, regardless of their power at the transmitter, then they'd be violating the law just as much as an obnoxious megaphone. Except that the beams would annoy only one person at a time, which would only mean that they wouldn't be as liable for "public nuisance" under those noise thresholds.

    So you could just sue them (if you could find them - the law really needs to require anyone doing this unsolicited to identify themselves with every message, like a traditional speaker does) under the existing noise complaint laws, if not harassment, etc. Of course, your lawyer would have to realize the physics of transmitted vs received sound power, but every lawyer reads Slashdot, right?

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  10. Boycott any business that uses this by StefanJ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If they can annoy us, we have every right to take every measure within the law to annoy them.

    Stand outside their doors at opening and closing times and shout at their employees with megaphones. Helpful, inoffensive things, like looking both ways before crossing the street and buckling up while driving.

    Use public records to find out who is responsible for ad campaigns and beam audio at their children telling them to beg mom and dad for a pony.