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Alpine 1.00 Brings Pine Back
TreeDork alerts us that Alpine 1.00 has now been released by the University of Washington. The full source and documentation are available."On the surface, Alpine will appear strikingly similar to the Pine Message System, and it is upwards-compatible for existing Pine users. Alpine is released under the Apache License, Version 2.0. The source code has been reorganized from the ground up to separate the user interface code from the underlying email engine itself. All of the source needed to build Unix, Windows, and Web-based mail user agents is included.
Is Alpine still not elm?
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You suggested webmail to a pine user? Prepare to be flogged!
The real question is "Why bother when you can use mutt?"
Glad I wore my asbestos boxers today.
Why bother when you can use gmail or any one of a number of excellent webmail clients.
6 very important reasons spring to mind:
1. WebMail is *really* slow compared to PINE
2. FireFox with a webmail system in it takes up many times the screen space
3. I don't especially want to trust a third party with my private data
4. I don't want my mail to be inaccessible when some 3rd party web mail server goes tits-up
5. If I run my own MTA I can do some useful automated stuff with things like procmail
6. I happen to like the interface
I'm sure I could think of plenty of other reasons if pushed. Asking "why bother?" on the assumption that everyone's requirements must be identical to yours is pretty arrogant...
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I don't know if vi or vim has a mail client (though I do sometimes use it to edit text), but your comment reminds me of an old quote, which I can't just recall exactly, about programs expanding until they have a mail client... "All programs expand until they can read mail..." perhaps?
Meh, I'm just as happy using mutt if I have to check my email without a GUI, and if I'm doing that it almost always means that I have access to webmail as well ('cause I'd be using SSH to use mutt...).
I wank in the shower.
Need I go on? Or should I just say everyone has different requirements like the parent did?
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You got to use mail? Luxury! Luxury, I tell's you.
Back in my day, all we got was a telnet client and a dns query tool
Bah, kids don't know they're born these days.
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Mut just is not nearly as easy to use as pine/alpine is. I tried mutt once, it went like this:
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Q:How do I get mutt to send mail directly to my ISP's SMTP server?
A:Mutt is a mail user agent not a mail transfer agent
Q: How do I get mutt to read mail from my IMAP mailbox?
A:Mutt is a mail user agent not a mail transfer agent
Q: How do I get mutt to keep an address book?
A: Use this extra 3rd party perl script, or this 3rd party perl script or
The old Pine license precluded it from being included in binary format in any distributions unless they chose to violate the license. Alpine doesn't have that problem. I don't know why this is particularly news though since I've been using Alpine on my Ubuntu Feisty box since May.
> Why Alpine Message System (AMS)?
:)
Because Pine Message System sounded too whiney