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Egypt to Copyright Pyramids and Sphynx

empaler writes "We all know the usual pro-copyright arguments. Most of them hinge on the fact that the individual or company that has a copyright needs an incentive to make something that is copyrightable, and therefore ensure a revenue stream in a period after the copyright has been granted. In a never-surpassed move, Egypt is working on legislation to extend copyright well above 3000 years — they are going to start claiming royalties for using likenesses of the Sphynx and the Pyramids. It is still unclear whether the original intent of the Pyramids included 'making sure them bastards pay for a plastic copy in 3000 years' alongside 'securing a pathway to the heavens for the God King.' Speaking as a Greenlandic national, I want dibs on ice cubes." It sounds straight out of The Onion, but instead you can read another story on the BBC.

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  1. Take this Egypt! by Slashdot+Suxxors · · Score: 5, Funny

    /_\
    Can't stop me from making pyramids!

    1. Re:Take this Egypt! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's a trapezoid, you geometrically challenged clod!

  2. US Treasury is Effed by longacre · · Score: 5, Funny

    How much are the royalties going to be for each dollar bill in circulation?

    1. Re:US Treasury is Effed by SailorSpork · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh come on, the pyramids on the dollar bill is obviously fair use: parody! I mean, look at the giant floating eyeball on top of it! I roll over with laughter every time I see that thing...

    2. Re:US Treasury is Effed by Ignis+Flatus · · Score: 5, Funny

      How much are the royalties going to be for each dollar bill in circulation?
      that's a recursion problem, because we'll just print more dollars to pay the bill. so the limit of, um, lemme see if i can find my old calculus book...
    3. Re:US Treasury is Effed by rubycodez · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's the All-Seeing Eye of Ra, and you've really pissed Him off with your flippancy. No solar power for j00.

    4. Re:US Treasury is Effed by Samarian+Hillbilly · · Score: 5, Funny

      They are also suing Israel in international court for all the gold they took out of Egypt during the Exodus. Israel has yet to counter-sue for back wages for slave-labor on the pyramids. I guess this is part of a general strategy by the Egyptian government to insure their revenue stream w/o engaging in productive activity. They learned from SCM and Apple Core.

  3. Copyright extension in reverse...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    What will they call it? The Sun God Bono Copyright Term Extension Act?

  4. Fuck! by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 5, Funny

    There goes my plans to get rich quickly by making copies of pyramids and sphinxes and selling them on the street for way lower than the original pyramid and sphinx.

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  5. Does this mean... by Evil_Ether · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...that they will ry and sue the Incas?

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  6. This is... by UnCivil+Liberty · · Score: 5, Funny

    a total pyramid scheme...

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  7. Re:Wow, impressive. by rolfwind · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's pretty astounding arrogance right there. Since when do one country's laws apply anywhere outside their borders?

    They learned from America, whose government has pretty much the same attitude in many areas.

    Not to mention that they have no right to try to "copyright" stuff that was made 3000 years ago, by people long-since dead.

    Ask Disney about the Grimm Brothers.
  8. Re:So where does this leave the jews? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    "This bit of accepted wisdom, that "...the Pyramids [were] built by slaves who were Jews.." (as stated in your message of 1 September), is a canard that does not deserve repetition. First, it is anachronistic and illogical. The "Pyramids" -- presumably the three great pyramids of Gizah and perhaps the earlier pyramids to the south, including the Step Pyramid of Sakkara -- were built in the Third and Fourth Dynasties, 2650-2575 BC and 2575-2467 BC. The Jews did not exist at that time. The ancestors of the Jews, the Hebrews or "Children of Israel" -- Bene Yisra'el -- did not enter Egypt until centuries later. If one looks at the biblical narrative, Joseph, son of Jacob aka Israel, who brought the people of Israel into Egypt to settle in the land of Goshen, was driven in a chariot just behind Pharaoh's. The Egyptians did not have the wheel when the great pyramids were built. By the time the Egyptians had wheels, and horses and chariots, the great pyramids were ancient. Even if one were to determine that the migration of the Sumerian/Chaldean Abraham from the Sumerian city of Ur to the land of the Canaanites took place around the predynastic or early dynastic periods of ancient Egypt, there would still have been no Jews in Egypt at the time -- or anywhere else for that matter. Second, recent scholarship on ancient Egypt has suggested -- concluded, perhaps -- that the pyramids were built by corvees of native Egyptians and undoubtedly of slaves as well, conscripted into temporary service on the pyramids, probably during the flood season when their labor on the farm could be spared. Those who were not actually slaves through warfare or other reasons were subjects of Pharaoh who were made to give their time and effort to a great national cause. Managing these labor gangs were professional craftsmen whose villages near the pyramids have been under excavation and study". Ronald Hilton - 9/6/01

  9. Re:Tit for tat by david_anderson · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, international treaty means that your copyright will be honored under the laws of the other country in that country. To prosecute someone in the United States, you have to file a case in US District Court under Title 17, not under the Berne Convention.

    If Egypt retaliates for something like this, they would be viewed as violating the treaties by every other state, and be subject to significant sanctions. Not to mention, they are still trying to get back lots of antiquities from all those other countries.

  10. Re:They can choose to copyright... by Zeinfeld · · Score: 5, Insightful
    How will you ignore it? Thanks to the US Government, they must take Egypt's copyright claims seriously if they demand that other countries take ours seriously (and even let us infiltrate their citizen's lives CIA-style).

    Actually the copyright laws are regulated by international treaty and this particular claim is not supported by the treaty. So the reverse is true, Egypt has zero chance of applying this particular law outside its own borders.

    But thats probably not what they are after. After some haggling the owners of the Luxor will come up with some form of face saving deal that throws a little money towards preserving the originals and in return the Egyptian government will loan them some stuff.

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  11. Re:Firehose is weird by 1u3hr · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Perhaps I'm really bad at writing summaries, but I posted this same story on Firehose almost an hour before this one even came up.

    But you probably spelled "sphinx" correctly. It was the extra creativity of fucking it up to "sphynx" that got this one noticed. Remember, it's not accuracy that gets you on Slashdot, it's the ability to distort and misinterpret a story so it will generate the most page views that counts.

  12. Re:Just like any other desperate move by CodeBuster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fewer and fewer people go to Egypt to see the pyramids There is a reason for that and it has nothing to do with copyright or newer monumental construction projects in neighboring Arab countries and that is the image that westerners in general and Americans in particular have about Arab countries from what they see in the terrorist beheading videos, the stonnings of women in the streets, and the unruley mobs chanting "death to America". Tourists are scared to death of visiting Arab countries and they should be. If the Eygptians want to attract more tourists to their country then they have to do something about the terrorist image that is being solidified in the west. Does anyone else remember the episode of 30 Days where Morgan Spurlock asks people what is the first word that comes into their mind when he says the word "muslim"? The fact that Ayman Al-Zawahiri (aka the Eygtpian doctor and number 2 man of Osama) gets mentioned just about every time Al Qaeda gets mentioned in the news doesn't help. The Eygptians, the Saudis, the Jordanians and other Arab countries need to do more publically to counteract the negative PR moves being made by the terrorists or all but the most adventurous tourists might stay away permanently.
  13. Indefinite copyright already exists in the USA by schon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, there is _some_ movement in the US to make copyright indefinite, but (at least for now) it is not close to becoming law. Sorry, you missed the boat. The law to make US copyrights indefinite passed 8 years ago. It was also challenged all the way to Supreme Court, and found to be 100% constitutional.

    It was called the DMCA, and contained provisions to extend copyright indefinitely (even though nobody seems to realize it.)

    See, legally the copyright expires, of course. But technically it doesn't. If a copyright holder places "technological measures" to prevent someone from copying/accessing a work, then as long as the measures continue to function, you are legally prevented from using the material once is has entered the public domain, because the "technological measures" are given force of law.