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Necessity of Dark Energy Questioned

ttnuagmada points us to an article about scientist David Wiltshire's suggestion that theorized dark energy is not needed to describe the expansion of the universe. His work challenges assumptions made about the distribution of matter in the universe. Early solutions to general relativity were based on a "smooth distribution" of matter. Wiltshire's approach focuses on a "lumpy" dispersal, which more accurately fits data from modern studies. We have discussed other theories about dark energy in the past. Quoting: "Through observational projects like the Sloan Digital Sky Survey and the 2 Degree Field survey, we now have a much better picture of the large-scale structure of the universe and we know that galaxies are not uniformly distributed. 'Rather, they are in clusters sprinkled thinly in filaments and "bubble walls" surrounding huge voids hundreds of millions of light-years across,' Wiltshire says.

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  1. Meanwhile, on the Neutral Planet by davidwr · · Score: 5, Funny

    As Zapp Brannigan is in lukewarm discussions with the Neutral Planet president, the planet's scientists are holding a lukewarm debate over the possible existence of Grey Matter.

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  2. I need my dark energy by russlar · · Score: 4, Funny

    'Dark energy', which researchers have spent years trying to fathom, isn't necessary to explain our universe after all I don't know about those guys, but I usually do my best work after a cup of dark energy.
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  3. Re:Skeptical by sam_handelman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just because you know that something is happening doesn't mean that you account for it correctly or fully appreciate the implications; I'm a biologist, all the systems I deal with are heterogeneous, and it's always a major bitch to deal with. That said, I share your skepticism but this doesn't strike me as implausible - although I know essentially nothing about astrophysics.

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  4. Re:Skeptical by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From the article, it seems like he believes that this lumpiness was always there, rather than an earlier smooth distribution they've been assuming.

    While we might not ever know who is correct in this regard, I tend to prefer theories that don't have the need for dark energies, or matter,even if that really really screws up the equations we use to model the early universe. I think at some point every physicist just stares at a black board somewhere and says to himself " thats fucked up". We really have lost the elegance of the universe being a series of spherical shells rotating around the earth. Since that point we've managed to go through cycles of discovering elegance in the universe on a deeper level (the simple math of kepplar and Newton), and having to reject it for more complexity( Einstien's huge matrix of PDE's ). Let this be a lesson to us all, Don't let what should be prevent you from seeing what is.

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  5. Relatively readable survey of solution approaches by gyepi · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... can be accessed here: http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0510059 . A bit less recent (but even more readable) account is http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/astro-ph/0310342 . The first linked article also mentions the approaches featured in the slashdot post (this is an ongoing business for a while). For starters the flow diagrams in the front pages describing the options might be particularly useful.

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  6. Can someone please explain? by martyb · · Score: 5, Informative

    I did some googling and found David Wiltshire's home page which had links to his recent publications. That brought me to this full article which I am guessing is the one that corresponds to what was discussed in the original /. article here.

    I had a couple courses in astronomy and cosmology way back in my college days. That said, I can't begin to understand the details. I'm hoping someone with more knowledge and experience could elaborate. Is he really onto something that can dispense with the need for dark energy? And, if he is, am I correct in thinking this would be Nobel-Prize-Candidate-Worthy?

    1. Re:Can someone please explain? by SoberVoiceOfReason · · Score: 5, Informative

      I am, for the record, a physicist.

      Here's the slightly more condensed version of this story. Einstein's theory of General Relativity (GR), which incidentally should the Law of GR by today's standards, gives a large set of differential equations to be solved. When this was first being applied to Cosmology in the 1920's, some basic assumptions about the universe had to made in order to solve the GR equations: it is isotropic (same in all directions), and homogeneous (uniform everywhere). They were primarily made for two reasons: mathematical expediency (this is the simplest sort of non-trivial universe you can have), and this didn't conflict with any observations at the time. Solving the GR equations with these assumptions gives fairly simple equations for the time evolution of the universe, leading to the standard model of Cosmology (called the Lambda-CDM model).

      As you would imagine, we have vastly more astronomical data now then we did in the 20's. To explain what we observe now, particularly the cosmic microwave background data, with these evolution equations we need to include a constant expansion term. This expansion would have to be from something uniformly distributed throughout the universe with negative pressure (very reminiscent of phlogiston, isn't it?) which we call "Dark Energy". So, based on current data and using the standard model to explain certain properties of the universe, it must consist of around 73% dark energy. Considering that this is the bulk of the universe and that, other than negative pressure, we have no idea what dark energy is or what it's properties are, this leads to a scientifically troubling state of affairs.

      However, modern sky surveys show that the universe is neither isotropic nor homogeneous. Instead there is a tendency towards a bubble-like structure with large empty spaces surrounded by thin "filaments" of galaxies. Even still, the standard model which requires dark energy ignores these differences. So, Wiltshire's contribution is to replace the standard assumptions with this "bubble" model, re-solve the GR equations, and get new equations for the evolution of universe based on it's *observed structure*, not some simplified model. In his new equations, dark energy is completely unnecessary. Since the structure of these "bubbles" is so large, fits to the data with Wiltshire's model are statistically just as good (actually indistinguishable) as the standard model, though as a caveat not all of the calculations have been done. Not only is Wiltshire's model much better from an Occam's Razor standpoint, it may actually solve some mysteries which the standard model cannot explain.

      I really can't go any further and still call this a "condensed" version with a straight face. In /. articles in other fields, I enjoy reading the commentary from experts, so here's an attempt to reciprocate. Hope this helped.

  7. Mini-Inflation events in Voids by skeptictank · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The fact that matter forms bubbles around the voids intuitively make me think that some force is pushing matter away from the center of each void. Perhaps the center of each void is location where mini-inflation events have happened and what we see today is the reslut of these events pushing shells of matter up against each other so that they form filaments and bubbles. Just a though, IANAP though.

    1. Re:Mini-Inflation events in Voids by LionKimbro · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't think so; My understanding is that it's the force of gravity.

      Here is the picture I have heard:

      The universe basically, from any point, stretches out in all directions. Gravity pulls a given lump in all directions at a given time. But local things are more powerful by the law of gravity, than far things. So things start lumping with their neighbors.

      Some lumpings occur earlier than other lumpings, which cause then to exert a stronger pull. These become the super-clusters (joining points between filament; such as the Virgo Cluster.)

      So masses are basically pulled towards the closest super-cluster. But, ah-hah, some are pulled strongly by *two* super-clusters. These become the filament ("bubble walls.")

      If you download Mitaka, you can see a lot of these things first hand, with data directly from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey.

  8. Re:KISS by ceoyoyo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, physicists hate complex answers. The overwhelming guiding principle of physics is to describe the universe with as few axioms and rules as possible. Leon Lederman (former director of FermiLab) has a neat little passage in his book about the goal of physics being to produce the ultimate t-shirt: everything that's needed to describe everything written on a shirt. And not one of those XXXL shirts couch potatoes wear.

    If this guy is correct then it's a nice advancement of cosmology. From what's described in the article it appears that at least the sign of the effect in his argument is correct. You hear a LOT of these claims though, that explain one or two observations and conveniently omit a hundred or so others.

    And the article is terrible. It sets this up somehow as a battle between this guy and Einstein. Einstein postulated a cosmological constant (the equivalent of dark energy) because he wanted a STATIC universe and then retracted it when Hubble came up with experimental evidence that the universe isn't static at all. Einstein's theories have nothing to do with whether matter is smoothly distributed or not.

  9. Re:Dark matter balloney by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Informative

    You do know that the temperature of the corona has been explained by observation of the sun's magnetic field lines right? Your confusion stems from modeling the sun as a light bulb, rather than the physics.

    The shortage of detected solar neutrinos was explained by hypothesizing that neutrinos actually have a very small mass. That would imply that they oscillate between types, only one of which we were detecting. That implies that the shortage is made up by neutrinos of the two other types that we couldn't detect. Now, with better equipment, we've discovered that neutrinos do have some very small mass and everything adds up nicely. Sorry, but that's a TRIUMPH of quantum mechanics, nuclear physics and the standard model, not a failing.

    But if you don't like all that math, that's no problem. Please sell or recycle your computer, which is only possible due to all that math.

  10. Re:Skeptical by bigpicture · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Exactly, even though we don't need to postulate the presence of "Dark Matter" to construct mathematical models of the expanding Universe, Einstein did not need the "ether" theory to construct "relativity" mathematical models that incorporated how light seems to behave.

    Still that does not prove that the "ether" either exists or doesn't exist. Just that it is not necessary to incorporate into a mathematical model, that will more or less express what is observed. But we still have the question of "zero point energy", what exactly is it? And what possible connections or similarities might it have with "dark matter" and "ether" theories.

    I have my own theory, and it is about the limitations of thought or of comprehension. Thought itself seems to work on a relativistic principle, where the polar opposite is always simultaneously needed as a contrast. Example: Up/Down, In/Out, Near/Far, Good/Bad etc. etc. So Einstein's theory of Relativity does not necessarily explain how the Universe works, it only explains how the limitations of thought work. Thought as a medium of awareness can therefore never grasp the Absolute, or the Non-Relativistic Totality, because that requires a different kind of awareness than thought is capable of.

  11. Re:Dark matter balloney by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Informative

    You confound dark energy with dark matter. They are very, very different concepts. This paper deals with dark energy.

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  12. That makes sense, but by shadowofwind · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why have they been wasting our time with this dark energy stuff for the last decade then? Why posit the dark energy if its only needed to fix a model that was derived with what has for a while now known to be a false assumption? It seems stupid. Instead of endless science articles on dark energy, instead there should have been articles on scientists working to solve pde's with really hard constraints that match modern astronomical observations. I don't get it. Is there more to the story?