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Zed Shaw, creator of the popular Mongrel HTTP daemon / library, has decided it was high time to tear into the Ruby/Rails community for many different complaints that he has been collecting over the last few years. "Rails is a Ghetto" is Shaw's self-proclaimed exit strategy from the Rails community. "This is that rant. It is part of my grand exit strategy from the Ruby and Rails community. I don't want to be a 'Ruby guy' anymore, and will probably start getting into more Python, Factor, and Lua in the coming months. I've got about three or four more projects in the works that will use all of those and not much Ruby planned. This rant is full of stories about companies and people who've either pissed in my cheerios somehow or screwed over friends. I can back all of them up from emails, IRC chat logs, or with witnesses. Nothing in here is a lie unless it's really obviously a lie through exaggeration, and there's a lot of my opinion as well."

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  1. So what by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've been saying RoR sucks for years. Where's my story?

    1. Re:So what by stoolpigeon · · Score: 5, Funny

      apparently you didn't use enough profanity or brag enough about martial arts skills and willingness to fight anyone who disagrees with you. ramp that up and see what happens.

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      It's hard to believe that's how Micronians are made. Why don't we see it right now by having you both kiss one another?
    2. Re:So what by pudge · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've been saying RoR sucks for years. Where's my story? Well, you have to do it non-anonymously, silly AC!
    3. Re:So what by ducomputergeek · · Score: 4, Funny

      Chuck Norris came along and bent the ruby rails into loops!

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      "The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money" - Thatcher.
    4. Re:So what by WarPresident · · Score: 4, Funny

      Shut up about martial arts. Martial arts is for pro bodyguards and nerds with inferiority complexes. Are you a pro bodyguard?

      Zed Shaw is tough. There is no chin beneath Zed Shaw's goatee, there is only Chuck Norris. If you can see Zed Shaw, he can see you. If you can't see Zed Shaw you may be only seconds away from death.

      --
      Here come da fudge!
    5. Re:So what by kalirion · · Score: 3, Funny

      Is Uwe Boll making a RoR movie or something?

  2. Still no job? by jamie · · Score: 5, Funny

    He sounds like a real people person. I can't imagine why companies aren't jumping at the chance to hire this guy.

    1. Re:Still no job? by pudge · · Score: 4, Funny
      Hm. He wrote:

      You don't like what I've said, then write something in reply but fuck you if you think you're gonna talk to me like you can hurt me. Hey Zed: I could hurt you.

      Really bad.

      I could hurt you so bad you would forget that you were even hurt. You would run screaming like a little girl to your happy place.

      And your only recourse is to write your pathetic little rebuttals in your stupid little blog.

    2. Re:Still no job? by raju1kabir · · Score: 5, Funny

      Too late, I already beat the shit out of Zed this morning. He was coming out of Starbucks carrying a Tazo Chai Crème and giggling about his new Hello Kitty cravat, and frankly, I just couldn't help myself. One open hand to the face, and he dropped like a bad packet hitting ipf, and then just sort of sat there on the pavement cringing and giggling. A couple girl scouts came by and kicked him in the teeth, then skipped off laughing as he threatened through a rain of tears to badmouth them in his blog.

      --
      "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." -- GBS
    3. Re:Still no job? by B3ryllium · · Score: 3, Funny

      Where can I download this new firewall technology? :)

  3. Whose chopper is this? by reverseengineer · · Score: 5, Funny
    It is part of my grand exit strategy from the Ruby and Rails community.

    Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.

    --
    "FDA staff reviewers expressed concern about the number of patients who were left out of the study because they died."
  4. Slow news day? by shawnmchorse · · Score: 4, Funny

    I actually started to read TFA, but discovered that it appears to just be a bunch of high school drama. Or something.

  5. You've got to be kidding me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Offering to kick people's ass and bragging about his martial arts prowess, with extra points for claiming to be deadly? What is this, Fidonet?

  6. Mine is Bigger than Yours! by fm6 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Shut up about martial arts. Martial arts is for pro bodyguards and nerds with inferiority complexes. Are you a pro bodyguard?
    So, you're saying we're all nerds with inferiority complexes? I have only thing to say to that: so what else is new?

    As for pro bodyguards: if they're there to protect you, and not just to show off how important you are, then they carry Uzis.
  7. Re:What a douche by Muffinmasher · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Guess what buddy? You should be the new poster boy of" Of what? the suspense is killing me!
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    Schrödinger's download is slow.
  8. In related news... by dwalsh · · Score: 4, Funny

    2/1/2007

    Today, Theo de Raadt declared that henceforth he would "be nice to people", because "not even the mightiest asshole gods on Mount Asshole can top the the egomaniacal rantings of this Rails douchebag who no-one has ever heard of".

    By comparing the significance of their work versus there public tactfulness, Linus Torvalds has now been awarded the Nobel Prize for niceness, and the American Marriage Council has awarded Hans Reiser 'Husband Of The Year'.

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    ${YEAR+1} is going to be the year of Linux on the desktop!
  9. Why a beating? Why not a house fire? by FatSean · · Score: 2, Funny

    I mean, if you're a real tough guy you'll just burn the fucker's house down while he sleeps inside of it. When he flees the building, then you go to town with a 8lb baby sledge while his children watch.

    (If you're gonna call 'pussy', you really should come with something more hardcore)

    --
    Blar.
  10. Apparently Zed Shaw got noticed... by WebCowboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...because he graduated with honours from the Theo de Raadt School of Diplomacy.

    Some predictions for 2008:

    * Zed will fork and re-factor the framework, quietly releasing the far technically superior and more stable "OpenRails".
    * Google will use OpenRails to successfully deploy the Beta release of its Next Big Thing. It handles thousands of requests per nanosecond and Google's share price spikes, though it doesn't account for any of Google's revenue.
    * The PHP community declares "OpenRails is dead!"

  11. Re:It's remarkable that people still do this by devjj · · Score: 2, Funny

    92.6% of all statistics are made up on the spot. (Yes, I had to.)

  12. Re:Go tolerate yourself. by neveragain4181 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Fair point, but to a large extent Albert Einstein, Alan Turing, and Ada Augusta all worked alone; and they did ok in terms of ideas and lack of jerkness.

    Although I bet Zed would kick their collective asses, using his nunchucks and rudimentary understanding of the HTTP spec.

  13. Whose rant is this? by LaurensVH · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's Zed's. Who's Zed? Zed's dead. Well, career-wise at least ;-)

  14. Re:Team Dynamics Lead to Tantrums by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Zed is the new Theo.

  15. Re:You? Make ME look stupid? Good luck with that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Wow. Just... wow. I honestly didn't think Slashdot could get any more puerile.

    I'm assuming that SourceForge is finally going out of business, and the staff has decided to snuff out Slashdot like a bag of flaming poo?

  16. Re:Don't threaten people on your company's web sit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Holy shit, are you off your meds or something?

  17. Programming Huckabee-Pragmatic Programmer's Guide by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 3, Funny

    Chuck Norris came along and bent the ruby rails into loops!

    #!/usr/bin/huckabee

    use CHUCK_NORRIS;

    That's as far as I've gotten with my new language.

    I've decided it will be statically typed. With Huckabee types, you know where everything stands.

  18. Re:Programming Huckabee-Pragmatic Programmer's Gui by try_anything · · Score: 2, Funny

    Make sure you include some runtime checking, because you never know what might get loaded and linked.