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Scientists Fly to 2008's Most Dazzling Meteor Shower

coondoggie writes "On Thursday, SETI Institute and NASA scientists will take their research instruments and their coffee for a 10 hour continuous flight to map what they say will be the earth's most brilliant meteor shower of 2008. Scientists believe the Quadrantid meteor shower could flash over 100 visible meteors per hour at its peak, depending on location. A Gulfstream V aircraft will take off from San Jose, Calif., and fly 14 scientists and their instruments for 10 continuous hours at 47,000ft., over the Arctic and back to San Jose. The primary goal of the lengthy airborne mission is to observe the Quadrantid meteor shower in ideal and virtually unchanging conditions far above light pollution and clouds to determine when the meteor shower peaks and how the flow of meteors are dispersed."

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  1. really? by mastershake_phd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What can you learn about a meteor shower from 47,000ft that you can't learn from the ground? What can you learn from the dispersion in the first place?

    1. Re:really? by timmarhy · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The real question is what can't you see from the ground, an the answer is SHITLOADS.

      light,clouds and smog obscure so much of the sky if you ever left your little suburban island you would be amazed at what the sky looks like.

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    2. Re:really? by Kristoph · · Score: 4, Funny

      What can you learn about a meteor shower from 47,000ft that you can't learn from the ground?

      You can learn if you have what it takes to fly at 47,000ft, at night, above the arctic, while flaming stones fall all around you.

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  2. SETI Scientists? by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What are they doing, exactly? Seeing if the rocks are intelligent? Making sure the planet isn't being seeded by aliens?

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    1. Re:SETI Scientists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't complain. Any sort of shower those SETI scientists can get is a good thing.

    2. Re:SETI Scientists? by SetupWeasel · · Score: 2, Funny

      At least they will finally see something.

    3. Re:SETI Scientists? by barakn · · Score: 2, Informative

      The meteor acts like a old-fashioned flame test, revealing the identity of the elements present in the meteoroid by the spectrum of the emitted light. They're checking for the presence of organic matter, which has something to do with the search for life, if not specifically intelligent life.

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  3. In Soviet Russia by Smordnys+s'regrepsA · · Score: 4, Funny

    Meteors watch you!

    Seriously, though, what's wrong with watching from an area on the ground that has low Light Pollution? Does it not cost enough?

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  4. Re:Predicting meteor showers? by reverseengineer · · Score: 4, Informative

    Meteor showers are generally the result of the earth passing through a stream of small debris particles. Streams of notable size (large enough that you would reasonably call such an encounter a "shower") almost always are from fragments which break free from comets as they pass near the sun. Just as the comets are periodic, the positions of the debris trails are periodic- most meteor showers can now not only be anticipated in terms of time and optimal location, but in approximate meteor frequency as well.

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  5. Because by mfh · · Score: 3, Funny

    Flying a plane into a meteor shower just seemed like a scientifically brilliant thing to do. Haven't these guys seen a Hollywood movie ever? The rocks will smash the plane into bits!

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  6. Googleplex, Moffet field and backscratching by viking80 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Google CEO has some private jets, and wanted to land on the airstrip next to the Googleples. Unfortunately, Moffet field is a military airfield operated by NASA. NASA and Google however agreed to scratch each others backs: Googles private jets will be part of NASA's scientific research program, and the can land the jets right next to the Googleplex.

    I'm guessing giving the NASA guys a few rides in a private jet, and serving a few bottles of champagne is a small price to pay to be able to park your fleet of jets outside you office, and at the same time avoid all normal hassles.

    I hope the pictures of the meteores turn out well.

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  7. Re:Star Light, Star Bright by blueg3 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They have high-powered telescopes in areas with low light pollution, but these telescopes have a fixed position. Over the course of 10 hours, the Earth rotates quite a bit (10/24ths!), so the area of the Earth that is prime for observing the meteors moves over a large distance during the course of the shower.

    Planes can also fly above weather, whereas telescopes cannot see through many weather phenomena.

    Given the kind of costs that research entails, a flight like this probably isn't all that expensive.

  8. In Seattle... by symbolset · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What can you learn about a meteor shower from 47,000ft that you can't learn from the ground?

    In Seattle you can learn that the meteor shower is happening. In the Northwest getting above the clouds is almost your only hope of seeing such a thing.

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  9. If you're in the right place you can help by szyzyg · · Score: 3, Interesting
    If you've got a decent camera and you're in the right place, at the right time, then you can potentially photgraph some meteors, and possibly collect useful data for meteor researchers. If a meteor trail is imaged from multiple ground locations then the trajectory can be reconstructed.


    I snapped this image http://groups.imeem.com/iQrVatKB/photo/fIua32Y9X8/ with my Nikon D50 during the Aurigid shower last year and the data from this and other images was useful to Peter and his collaborators. So, take some time to snap some pictures if you're up for it, you never know it might be useful.

  10. We know you have your choice of airlines by Dachannien · · Score: 2, Funny

    Also, the in-flight movie will be Armageddon. Headphone rental is five dollars.

    1. Re:We know you have your choice of airlines by ZX3+Junglist · · Score: 2, Funny

      I can't help but think of the first Mountain climb I ever did. It was with my middle school teacher, and we took a coach bus on the 3 hour trip.

      His choice for a movie? K2, the one where people die climbing a mountain. I suppose he was a sick bastard, after all.

  11. Re:Star Light, Star Bright by Cecil · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Light pollution is a problem even for the largest observatories. There is virtually no regulation. The best they can do is buy up as much surrounding land as possible or ensure it's a protected natural environment preserve. But even the largest observatories are facing problems where the surroundings have become increasingly densely populated and light polluted over the years.

    You can see the light dome for Calgary from 200 kilometers away, and Calgary has done a lot of work to reduce light pollution, being the first major metropolitan area in the world to replace all streetlight shades with full-cutoff models. It helps that the land is pretty flat here, but still. It's a very difficult problem to avoid, and it doesn't help that we largely don't even bother to try.

  12. Re:Star Light, Star Bright by mforbes · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually telescopes, binoculars, etc, are a lousy way to watch a meteor shower. The viewing area is just too small compared to the area across which the meteors streak, and the chances of one actually crossing the viewing area is negligible. Whether you're a city dweller doomed to seeing only fireballs, or a rural farmer who gets to see every last dust particle burning in the upper atmosphere, the naked eye works better.

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  13. Re:Star Light, Star Bright by Obvius · · Score: 2, Funny

    Do you mean decimal? Because there aren't any units of revolution, neither metric nor imperial. Although I suppose the imperial unit of revolution should really be the Lenin.