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National ID Cards Mandated in the US, If You're Under 50

charleste writes "CNN is reporting that the US Homeland Security Department has mandated Real ID for drivers licenses. According to the article, this will not include a 'chip', but a list of options by state. Despite legislation passed in various states and objections by groups such as ACLU, this appears to be a done deal. Without one of the new IDs you will be unable to board a plane after 2014 if you are under 50."

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  1. Fuck flying. by Hatta · · Score: 0, Troll

    After this christmas, I'm not boarding a plane ever again. The airlines can all die in some sort of fiery explosion for all I care.

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  2. Re:OH NOES!! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 0, Troll

    Especially when these licences were provided with funding from the CIA, via ISI proxies in Pakistan.

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  3. Where the hell are the fundies? by L.+J.+Beauregard · · Score: 0, Troll
    "13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
    13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
    13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

    ...Oh, yes, of course. It's not about women's freedoms or proper science education, so the Bible-thumpers can't be bothered.

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  4. Appeals? by LockeOnLogic · · Score: 1, Troll

    Do I get a REAL way to appeal if I am denied a license? Every system has errors, and so far the US fed hasn't exactly wow'd me with how they run the do not fly list. Not having a quick way to correct a false denial can effectively grind someones life to a halt if they have need to commute/fly regularly.

  5. OH NOES!!! by CODiNE · · Score: 0, Troll

    It's the MARK OF THE BEAST!!!

    Just like the Euro was...

    And credit cards...

    And WIndows...

    And RFID...

    Aaaand ... Shoes?

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  6. No Driver's License = Too Bad For You by whisper_jeff · · Score: 1, Troll

    "By 2014, anyone seeking to board an airplane or enter a federal building would have to present a REAL ID-compliant driver's license..."

    So, people who live in cities with good public transportation and decide to not bother getting a driver's license (and I know many such people) will be SOL when they try to fly, despite being totally legal and legitimate citizens with entirely valid ID? Nice. Kudos on that.

  7. This could be worse... by dtjohnson · · Score: 0, Troll

    They *could* require us to get a bar code tattooed on our ass and then drop our drawers to be scanned whenever some authoritative somebody wanted to verify our identify.

  8. Re:It's not about terrorism. by ArcherB · · Score: 0, Troll

    It's not about terrorism. It's about control. How is standardizing ID's across all 50 states granting anyone control? Will my license emit brain control waves that turn me into a good little patriot?

    Fact is that all 50 states require driver's licenses. All 50 states create their own standards for those licenses. These licenses allow you board planes in any airport in all 50 states. It may be easier for you to get a license in your state than in mine. That means it is easier for you board a plane that it is for me. Is that fair? If anything, this ensures equal treatment for all citizens, regardless from what state they come from!

    It's not about control! Get real. The feds will have no more control over me when I have to carry a state-issued ID that meets Real ID standards than they do now that I have to carry a state issued ID that only meets the vast majority of those standards. Take your foil hat off, please.
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  9. Re:Papers please by gznork26 · · Score: 0, Troll

    "I don't recall reading that any of the 9/11 hijackers used fake IDs to get onto the airplanes."

    What hijackers? What planes? Steel core building don't do that. The whole thing was a scam, and the media were complicit with the perpetrators from the start. Don't blindly point at the so-called eyewitnesses and video evidence. Go watch "September Clues" and think about everything that has been based upon the convenient story of 19 hijackers, some commercial airliners that were not scheduled to fly that day, buildings that violated the laws of physics, a lengthy government coverup, and a wall-to-wall psy-op to drill it into people's minds as solidly as Winston Smith's aversion to rats. The objective was fear, and this is just one of the results.

  10. Re:Papers please by Reziac · · Score: 0, Troll

    The timeline at http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/sop/index.shtm reads like the plotline from an episode of Get Smart. Embarrassing to have a government that thinks common lighters are a terrorist threat. Only people made happy or secure by that policy were those who work for manufacturers of disposable lighters -- gave them job security all right!!

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  11. It's About Time... by DougF · · Score: 0, Troll

    That we get serious about national identity cards. Well done for the Bush Administration, I only wish we could vote him into office again

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  12. The real id is knocked by conspiracy theorists by scourfish · · Score: 0, Troll

    I actually support a nationalized ID. Currently, we have 50 states with 50 different ID systems. A state issued ID is already required to fly in most cases, and some sort of ID or drivers license is required to execute many government services. If somebody wants to live in a hermit hole and be paranoid, that's their choice, however unifying the ID system in the US will cut down on infrastructure in the long run because every state will use the same system. People are worried about needing to publicly present their ID when asked by the cops, and while it is still your right in some areas not to present it, prepare to get a hard time by the cops if you do in those cases. In my opinion, the people opposing a unified ID system are, for the most part, conspiracy whackos.