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Sun Buys MySQL

Krow alerted me that MySQL has been bought by Sun. Right now there is only a brief announcement but it discusses what the acquisition will mean for the core developers, community etc.

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  1. Re:Licenses by Martian_Kyo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    mysql license is real mess, it can be interpreted in so many ways.

  2. It would make MySQL easier to deploy... by hughk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have worked at a lot of big banks. Open Source has been slowly finding its way in, but it is incredibly difficult to deploy an open source database like MySQL or Postgres. The banks says they want safety and security - and you answer that your database isn't enterprise critical so why pay for Oracle? Management then says, ah well, how about MS SQL Server....

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  3. Re:Sun? by teknopurge · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sun is the 2000 version of Bell Labs.

    Google just makes beta applications.

    Regards,

  4. Re:I wonder by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is why IT departments need some improvement. Most are made up of hardware people who have a few programmers as friends and by and large are reactive rather than proactive in the way they deal with growth. The worst are the massively corporate entities who assume that the way to deal with any issue is to micromanage everything. I'm not blaming the people in IT for this so much as the people who create and staff IT departments.

    How do you deal with the growth of an application such that it no longer is able to serve the audience that it now has effectively? Well, if this were hardware, you'd replace it. And the same approach needs to be taken with software. But that takes people to understand the application, and others to do the time consuming work of migrating people and data over to the new application.

    There's nothing wrong with using a spreadsheet to manage an address book to start with. As more people start to use the same source, however, IT departments need to be willing to (and CTO's willing to allow them to) recommend changes, including providing the resources to move the data to a more efficient, more effective, platform. As of right now though, most IT departments don't even have the appropriate people to do that.

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  5. Re:Yes they all work like slaves by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the benefits are only there on the surface.

    but what good are they if you are bound and 'forced' to work until 9pm each nite? or made to feel guilty if you DON'T stay for dinner and work a few hours after that.

    all for the SAME PAY.

    yes, its a slave life. you'll understand that when you get older (no insult intended; I didn't realize this until I hit over 40, myself.)

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  6. Re:I wonder by Robert+The+Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Spoken like someone who doesn't work in IT. I get request the day stuff is suppose to start with the users IDEA of what should work. Not requirements or information and what needs to be done then I get weeks of little issues tiring to make this Square Peg fit into a round whole until I figure out what is going on and replace it with something that works. The problem is IT is the last step in the process not the 1st step and that will always cause issues. Sometime we just can't do what the user thinks is simple. Just this week I had a issue with someone deciding that email made a good real time alert system from an external customer. Problem email isn't real time and/or reliable. So every hick up in email is an issue. If IT was consult we could have either a)set the expection or b)developed sometime that was real time and reliable they could use.

  7. Re:I wonder by ericlondaits · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, from my experience as a programmer I'd much rather have someone come with a spreadsheet he worked with for a year, and very specific requirements such as "we want some people to be able to see these fields, some people to be able to edit these columns" and so... than to have someone with a vague notion of what he needs and then turning that into a relational database. Even if spreadsheets seem awful, a year's user experience with a fast prototyping tool (i.e. the spreadsheet) is priceless.

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  8. Re:Yes they all work like slaves by Attaturk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the benefits are only there on the surface. but what good are they if you are bound and 'forced' to work until 9pm each nite? or made to feel guilty if you DON'T stay for dinner and work a few hours after that. all for the SAME PAY. yes, its a slave life.
    I'm not entirely sure you know what slavery is.
  9. Re:I wonder by jorgeleon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who needs meaningful filenames and directories when you have grep?

    Actually, he has a point.

    One of the best features, to my taste, of gmail is that I can quickly find an email with a specific content regardless of the subject. Same thing with files if they are full content indexed.

    And that is the way that humans naturally work: "I know what I am looking for, I just don't know where I put it (nor I care where it was)". The folders and file names paradigm is an emulation of the paper archival model. Classes are tough on how to create a mantain one (bookeeping, library, secretaries).

    You see, this "order" force us to keep to pieces of information in our head: What is it and where is it. And to use one to get the other.

    Of course anyone can create a simple filing system, but it requires some level of self disipline to keep it.

    And is not intuitive.

    I know what I want... just fetch it!

  10. Re:I wonder by strong_epoxy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Spoken like someone who's just entered high school.

    The last people anyone wants to talk to about ad-hoc projects is IT. An employee has a need, they fill it with a reasonable tool. Per the GP post, the initial requirements were simple and the solution sufficient. No IT department needed. As the utility of the system increased, so did the requirements, and so must the solution space expand requiring IT assistance. IT should then be eager to help and congratulatory on the success of the solution to date.

    It's impossible to divine the future requirements of any system, or even it's success. That's why we iterate.

  11. Re:I wonder by cuban321 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    who needs meaningful filenames and directories when you have grep? Who needs grep when you have spotlight?
  12. Re:I wonder by zurtle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually there is stil an immense use for Excel in data processing. As a mathematician, I find Excel excellent for very-short-term data analysis projects. If you need to put the data in a database... you can always dump the whole spreadsheet.

    Excel generates graphs very quickly, has quite a powerful set of numerical analysis functions and just works.

    Databases aren't the answer when you want fast results.

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