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Startup Offers Instant-Boot Windows Alternative

Lucas123 writes "A Silicon Valley startup named Device VM has a product that circumvents the boot-up process, according to a story in MIT's Technology Review. Device VM recently released a tiny piece of software that gives users the option to boot either Windows or a faster, less-complex operating system called Splashtop. The company is partnering with PC OEMs and consumer electronics companies to integrate its core technology into desktops, notebooks, ultra-mobile PCs, and other devices."

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  1. Hey, anybody knows by microbee · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How to get slashdot coverage if I have a startup?

  2. Taking all bets here! by Pojut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Taking all bets here, folks! How long before Microsoft tries to do something to try to get PC companies to not have this in their systems? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

    1. Re:Taking all bets here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Um, this is from ASUS. The company that shipped Linux on 350000 mini-laptops in the last few months. Whatever Microsoft tried must not have been very convincing.

    2. Re:Taking all bets here! by slartibart · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You can disable all that stuff. It's not easy though, you have to find the "start when windows starts" checkbox, or take it out of the startup folder or the registry if all else fails. I am not sure I blame Microsoft for this. There's nothing stopping idiotic software companies from producing this kind of crap for OSX or linux. Each installer could add its program to rc.d or an init script or whatever.

      Then again, since most of these systray programs are auto-updaters, what would be nice is an OS service that handles this so that each company doesn't have to reinvent the wheel. I suppose you can blame Microsoft then :)

  3. and then what? by gambit3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Umm... ok, so I booted instantly into this thing... now what?

    Don't get me wrong, the long boot times of XP annoy me (except when it's freshly installed), but I don't see how this helps, unless it provides for an instant boot INTO XP, I don't see how you'd get regular people interested or how it will help them.

    1. Re:and then what? by merreborn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't see how you'd get regular people interested or how it will help them.
      If your PC is off, and you want to check movie times on your way out the door, being able to rapidly boot into an environment with a web browser would be appealing.

      For the type of user that leaves their PC off most of the time, the ability to accomplish a single task rapidly could be appealing.
    2. Re:and then what? by misleb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If your PC is off, and you want to check movie times on your way out the door, being able to rapidly boot into an environment with a web browser would be appealing.


      Try using a (web enabled) phone and you can literally do it on your way out the door. Making a PC instantly available is an increasingly disminishing benefit.

      For the type of user that leaves their PC off most of the time, the ability to accomplish a single task rapidly could be appealing.


      Or they could just try hibernating their existing OS and get the same effect. Seriously, marketing a new OS based on boot time is just stupid.

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    3. Re:and then what? by jdogalt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In other words, it's called dual booting into a non-bloated linux installation.

    4. Re:and then what? by peragrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      how about using an OS that has decent hibernate and sleep functions? I know MSFT keeps breaking them so windows users rarely know that joy, but damn. I know Linux can do it, Windows can too.

      My two Macs take 10 seconds to load up and are network ready and 5 seconds of that is me typing in my password. REboots should only be used when you need to update the system. If you have so many memory problems that you need to reboot more often than that , then i suggest you upgrade your OS to something that isn't a fisherprice toy.

      I can pull out my laptop raise the cover log in, check movie times, and put it back faster than a fresh XP install or hell even a fresh OS X install can boot.

      All MSFT has to do is stop screwing around with the ACPI specs and not care if Linux or anyone else can use them. that won't happen so windows users will always get shafted.

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    5. Re:and then what? by Kihaji · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you are already out the door, you already have plans, and will be out. So you can either:

      A) Walk your happy ass by the movie theater and look at the times on the board, picking the most convenient time.
      B) Use the cellphone that is invariably melded to the side of your face and call said theater.
      C) Pick up that ancient thing called, I think it's Newspaper, and look at the times.

      Seriously, wasting money to speed up boot times, are we sure this isn't a Gentoo project? Seems like some stupid miniscule optimization that would appeal to that crowd.

  4. My desktop machine has been up 700hrs by gelfling · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Since I turned off automatic Windows updates I rarely worry about shutting down and rebooting. Of course the 3 or 4 times a year I do have to patch Windows it sucks plutonic balls to have to restart over and over to finalize the patches.

    1. Re:My desktop machine has been up 700hrs by ErroneousBee · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I run Linux, but one of the things I'm least happy about is the horrible support for power management. None of the sleep, hibernate, etc., options work on my machine at all.

      I once had a problem with this, and decided to investigate.

      So I went through the forums and found that the problem was that the manufacturer of the laptop supplies a dsdt table that does not follow the published standards for dsdt tables.

      So I found a corrected table for my laptop and suspend/resume now works. But I was interested as to why a manufacturer would supply a DSDT that didnt follow the specs. And heres what I found:

      1. The ACPI standard is rather complicated, almost as if it was disigned to be hard to implement. Checking to find who the major players in defining the specification, I find my fist clue: "Conceived by Intel, Microsoft and Toshiba"
      2. So why would they create such a complicated specification? My next clue was that Microsoft was the developer of one of two major 3DSDT compilers.
      3. It appears that the DSDT compiler Microsoft created is very forgiving of errors that other compilers (such as from Intel) would flag.
      4. I don't believe it is coincidence that the parts of the ACPI specification parsed strictly by the Microsoft compiler are those needed by Microsoft operating systems.

      So Microsoft create a complicated specification, probably taking care to leave out important implementation details. Then they ship a compiler for the specification that only checks parts of the specification used by their own software. And thats why Linux has issues with suspend/resume on some hardware.

      Does any of this sound familiar?

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  5. Misnomer by kebes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Calling this "Instant-Boot" is a bit of a stretch. What they are describing is just a dual-boot bootloader that gives the option of booting into Windows or into Linux (Splashtop is a trimmed-down Linux distribution). The 20 second boot time for Splashtop is decently fast, but hardly "instant", especially when you compare it to how fast some computers can recover from sleep or hibernate modes.

    It seems moderately interesting, in the sense that some users might suddenly realize that all their computing needs are met by a lightweight (and Free) operating system. They might rarely boot into Windows. On the other hand, for many people this "fast boot" will just make using the computer more frustrating, since they will boot into Splashtop to get something done quickly, but then suddenly realize that they need another application (that they only have on their Windows partition), and then have to endure another, longer, boot (and re-open whatever webpage they were just looking at, etc.).

    In short, the interesting thing here is the idea of pushing a dual-boot computer to the masses, and not an "instant on" computer.

  6. Good for Windows users by Rinisari · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This thing is quite the buzz. It was all-the-rage at CES in a few companies' product, memorably ASUS, which I believe calls it "Express Gate." I think that OEMs could clone this functionality quickly and package it up. It's just a very hardware-specific kernel running with just enough modules and libraries to run the applications. A quick build of the x86 version of Cross-LFS would yield a decent, small OS for a base. But, those Linux users who already tune their kernel generally don't have to wait the two minutes for Vista to start and think it's quick when the computer boots in 20 seconds. We tuners wait 30-40 seconds and we've got a full system. Splashtop users wait 20 seconds and have a reduced system.

  7. Re:All I need do is replace my whole OS by Dmala · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's kind of silly, people moan about their bootup time, meanwhile they have 800,000 apps that all launch at boot and run in the system tray. I've never understood why it's so important to have instantaneous access to Quicktime movies, Word docs, or PDF files that it's worth having something running and sucking up resources all the time. Even OpenOffice is guilty, although their app is easier to get rid of than most. Turn off all that shit except for stuff you genuinely need, make sure you have adequate RAM for the OS you're running, and Windows boots plenty fast.

  8. Brilliant! by Foddz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Excellent! Now I have something to boot to and surf microsoft's tech support site with when my Vista install inevitably goes bad!

  9. Why? by Elentari · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can't find anything useful about this product. XP boots quickly on my PC, though it can't match OSX or Debian in my experience. Still, I don't have to go away and put on some tea whilst waiting for it to get to the "Login" screen, and can't imagine why anyone would be so desperate to browse the internet or connect to Skype that they'd find "Splashtop" an interesting prospect.

  10. Re:All I need do is replace my whole OS by msimm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe you haven't stepped outside the university much, but most users have those apps boot at start-up because they don't know how to disable them (or worry they'll break something if they did).

    Couple that with the persistence of certain vendors installing unnecessary applications into their taskbars (and as services) and of course there's a lot of cruft that could be cleaned up.

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  11. Simple... by AlecLyons · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1>Submit a story And that's about it. If it has enough geek appeal, it will get posted. Hell, you could even try submitting it again a couple days later ;)

  12. Re:All I need do is replace my whole OS by fwarren · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well anytime Windows is acting unstable. Instead of being screwed and dead in the water. You can fire your computer back up this way. Amazingly enough. You could even use it to google out error messages to get Windows going again. Possibly even download a missing or damaged DLL? Or discover since all you do is facebook, hotmail, youtube and myspace. You don't really need Windows.

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