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Environmental DVD Wrecks Apple Drives

FST777 writes "The British Mail on Sunday published its latest DVD giveaway on the EcoDisc, a thin and bendable DVD format that is supposed to be more environmentally-friendly than regular DVDs. Despite the clear warning against using them in Apple slot drives, some Mac users decided to give it a go. The result? A brisk trade for repair shops in the UK. 'The EcoDisc's manufacturer, ODS, insists the disc won't break drives. "We've produced over ten million of these discs — we've had less than a dozen phone calls," says managing director, Ray Wheeler. "There are ways to get the discs out." Wheeler says the problem stems from Apple's slot-loading drives. "It uses an ejection system that doesn't get approval from the DVD Forum." He claims the EcoDisc should work in other types of slot-loading drive, although admits that it hasn't been tested in the PlayStation 3.'"

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  1. Luckily for Apple Users there is a simple fix by Bryansix · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just throw the whole computer out and buy a new one!

  2. Problem Solved! by goatpunch · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple has solved this problem by releasing the MacBook Air without a DVD drive built in- it's much easier to throw away and replace a USB accessory.

  3. Re:pot, meet kettle by Pluvius · · Score: 5, Funny

    Discs don't have ejection systems, so no.

    Rob

  4. Who is out of specs again? by Stormwatch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wheeler says the problem stems from Apple's slot-loading drives. "It uses an ejection system that doesn't get approval from the DVD Forum."
    So the drives are out of specs. Yet the DVD Forum's specs allow for thin and bendable discs? Doubt it.
    1. Re:Who is out of specs again? by timster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think it's more like this: Product A isn't compliant to standard X, but works with all products conforming to standard X. Product B also works with all products conforming to standard X, but is also noncompliant itself. And now it so happens that Product A and Product B don't work together, and the makers of Product B are blaming the makers of Product A.

      --
      I have seen the future, and it is inconvenient.
  5. environmental friendliness by fred+fleenblat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The environmentally friendly thing to do would be to have NO disc at all. Just point people at a download site and let them get the disk image from the tubes using zero plastics, chemicals, landfill, or other resources in the process.

  6. Re:environmental friendliness by pclminion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because the Internet doesn't use any electrical power?

    I agree that it's probably more efficient to download data instead of burning it on DVD and distributing it that way, but by how much?

  7. Re:Nelson points and says "Haha!" by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seriously, even Apple users I know rant about their slot loading Macs (you can pry my tray loading Imac G3 from my cold, dead fingers). Both ideas were stupid.

    Actually, the Apple slot-loading drive was a response to durability problems experienced by students when they used Mac laptops. Apparently kids were liable to snap the DVD tray right off the laptop. (Not good.) So it wasn't a stupid idea. More like an attempt to balance out a variety of needs.

    That being said, you could always get a MacBook Air. Nothing says "high technology" like a complete lack of an optical drive. ;-)
  8. Not a CLEAR warning! by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 5, Informative

    The warning was:

    "no Apple slot in drive"

    1. Re:Not a CLEAR warning! by teslatug · · Score: 5, Funny

      Clear the warning was...if yoda you were

  9. This worked for me by jlherren · · Score: 5, Informative

    A friend once put such a disk in his MacBook and then called me after he couldn't get it out. I tried several things, including opening the Mac, with no luck. After some searching I found a solution on the net: Reboot the MacBook holding it upside down... the disk properly ejected right on booting. I don't know why and I don't know if it's reproducable, as I didn't want to try to put it in again. (btw, reading the disc while it was in worked fine.)