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Green Light for Human/Animal Hybrids

Henneshoe writes "BBC News is reporting that two research facilities have been given the green light to create part human, part animal embryos. According the the report, 'Scientists want to create hybrid embryos by merging human cells with animal eggs in a bid to extract stem cells. The embryos would then be destroyed within 14 days.' The decision to allow the embryos was made after research showed that people in large are OK with the idea."

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  1. I can hear the excuses already... by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    "Your Honour, I was just working on creating a Human/Sheep hybrid."

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    1. Re:I can hear the excuses already... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Your Honour, I was just working on creating a Human/Sheep hybrid."
      This is one area the governments of the world would love to see success. They have been trying to turn people into sheep for untold millenia, to varying degrees of success.
    2. Re:I can hear the excuses already... by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 5, Funny

      Q: Why to Scotsmen wear the kilt?

      A: So the sheep don't hear a zipper.

  2. people in large are OK by KillerCow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The decision to allow the embryos was made after research showed that people in large are OK with the idea


    I am glad that we are trusting the unwashed masses to make important technical decisions that they know nothing about. If Britney says it's safe, then it must be. God bless Democracy.

    I, for one, welcome our species hopping virus overlords.
    1. Re:people in large are OK by ajs · · Score: 5, Informative

      I am glad that we are trusting the unwashed masses to make important technical decisions that they know nothing about. I think you misunderstand... the government almost certainly wanted to make sure that there would not be backlash against the idea after having ALREADY made their decision on a technical level (since the advisers in question would have been the ones to bring the issue to that level). However, I'm sure they formed the question in a reasonable way that didn't imply that the island of Dr. Moreau would be coming to a Kwiki-Mart near you. Slashdot, on the other hand....

      Even the summary, once you get past that horrid title, makes it clear that we're not talking about changing the DNA involved, but rather using eggs from animals to grow cells that were taken from a human. I can't really imagine why I'd have a problem with growing cells from a human that way vs. previous experiments that have cultured human cells in a stand-alone environment.

  3. paging... by debatem1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dr. Moreau unavailable for comment.

  4. Public Permission? by ranton · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Since when should the perception of the public decide what research is done and which is not? I can at least understand why a panel such as the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority would want to have their opinion heard, but why would they waste their time consulting the public?

    Why even create such a government body if they were just going to conduct opinion polls to make their decisions? If you are going to assemble a panel of scientists and ethicists to regulate the scientific community (well at least in the UK), at least you would hope they would use their expertise instead of referring to the public.

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  5. Suddenly... by pwnies · · Score: 5, Funny

    Furries across the world rejoiced in their parents' basements.

  6. How is this better? by shadylookin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I know a lot of people are against cloning human embryos extracting the stem cells and then aborting them. So how on earth could splicing humans cells with animals, harvesting it, and then aborting it possibly be construed as better? Personally I don't care either way, but I can't see how you could be happier with cross species embryos than with good old cloning from a moral standpoint

  7. Re:Green light for animal cruelty by pla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is animal cruelty, plain and simple.

    Because 14-day-old embryos have such well-developed nervous systems that they can appreciate (nevermind even "experience") pain?



    Do you know how many embryos are going to be destroyed

    No. Do you?

    More importantly - So what? At that stage of life, you have organic scum in a tube. What it could someday turn into has no relevance to its status at that developmental level.



    There are better ways to get stem cells people.

    Yes - Yes, we do indeed have better ways. But the goddamned fundies don't seem inclined to let us use the numerous extra embryos from human fertility therapies (nevermind abortions), so we need to find new, even more absurd, ways to get them.

  8. Re:There already are UK furry conventions by cansado · · Score: 5, Funny

    See the furry convention map for more worldwide.

    No.

  9. Ridiculously Misleading Article Title by calcapt · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7193820.stm

    I find this incredibly irritating. The specifics of the term "hybrid" are not elaborated upon and the continual use of the term"human-animal hybrid" allows for people to develop the notion that scientists out there are actually creating some monster chimeric creature.

    Not. True. If you click on "Q&A Hybrid Embryos", found in the right hand nav bar, you'll see what I mean. I've provided the link below:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6233415.stm

    This second link elaborates on why these eggs are considered "hybrid". Genetic material (DNA) is essentially removed from animal cells, leaving an empty nucleus and functional cellular machinery. In other words, you have a cell without DNA that looks very much like a human cell without it's DNA. The scientists then inject human DNA into the animal cell's nucleus; at this point the animal cell reads instructions off the DNA and carries them out. The end product is essentially A HUMAN CELL, but with left over proteins and cellular material generated from the old animal DNA.

    This is FAR different from what people appear to be assuming. It's not going to generate some half cow-half human monster/creature, and does NOT "blur" the boundaries between humans and other species.