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What is an Open Source Company Really Worth?
CNet has an interesting profile of MySQL, JBoss, and Zimbra, exploring what an open source company is actually worth. "Given how slowly revenue accumulates in an open-source company--assuming it is recognizing subscriptions over 12 months--bookings is probably the valuation metric being used or at least strongly considered. It surely is the metric by which the start-up wishes to be measured. So while Savio suggests we open-source entrepreneurs may be "sleeping with dollar signs in (our) eyes," there's clearly a lot of work to do before most open-source companies are worth selling. It's not worth selling out for $100 million. Not for the venture-backed companies, anyway."
So I guess since no one reads TFA anyway the link wasn't included...
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http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9853461-16.html
How did this make it to the front page? Someone needs to know that links are better than just a summary. I'm honestly interested in reading for this, but instead of clicking on a link (hello, this is the web!) I have to Google around for it. Lame submission.
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How do you value ANY company?
They own stuff (buildings), they have staff and they have current revenue.
It really shouldn't be that hard.
I wouldn't evaluate the worth of Oracle based on what I thought the
value of the Oracle RDBMS sourcecode was worth. I would look at what
they are selling to people.
With enterprise software, frontend licensing is just the tip of the iceberg.
MySql corp really isn't that much different than Sun, IBM or Oracle in this respect.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
A public company (think RedHat) trades for X times earnings. Buying RedHat would rationally need to have a return after debt service and 'thinning'. The software is free, but the services and integration and packaging that RedHat does is where the money is.
A private company like Digium, who does Asterisk, has a NIBT and may have additional potential for digital PBX widgets (look at their recent deal with 3Com for an example). They'd probably bring in 7 years run rate as a buy price.
Hyperic, while smaller, has great community development and might bring in more, because of a wider breadth of products touched. I'd value them at 10x annual run rate.
MySQL AB did a great job. Hurray for those guys; they deserve what they got. I hope that Sun can integrate MySQL well without butchering the company and product. Professional results can pay off.
---- Teach Peace. It's Cheaper Than War.
What's missing from the article is the usual valuation of a closed source company. Anyone know the answer to that?
This has it backwards. After a vendor such as JBoss has created a fully functionnal application server such as JBoss, what are properties such as WebSphere, WebLogic and JRun worth? How much would you pay once you realize you can get the same outcome for free? Sure, there are some old companies out there who still need the warm fuzzy that comes from paying $15,000 for WebSphere--but in the long run, what is that business worth? Not a lot. JBoss has already pulled a fast one anyway. What used to be free, circa JBoss 4.0.2, (embedding the app server in a shrink-wrapped application) is now for a fee. I used to work for a company that bet the farm on JBoss 4.0.2. And you know what they're doing now? PAYING JBoss. They have no choice.
When a program is "GPLv2 or later" and "Contributions are signed back to the company", if the OSS software is useful the GPL's patent poison pill actually makes it a more attractive buyout target.
You see, when Apple buys out CUPS, or Sun buys out MySQL, they can distribute the code under whatever liscence they want as copyright holders.
Which means, for THEM, its non GPL. But for everyone else, it is GPLv2 or later.
Thus you can still get community support with copyright transfer, but you have a competitive advantage in selling/using it commmercially.
I wonder if the FSF realized that this is a side consequence of GPLv3 and the "or later" clause?
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It's worth whatever someone is willing to pay. As is anything else in this world. Make something valuable to someone with lots of money and they'll pay lots of money for it. It really is that simple.
The extremely poorly articulated point of the posting and article is that open source companies are often criticized because they face a serious issue other software companies do not. That issue is the re-use of their source code by other companies.
What is to keep another company, say NySQL Inc. from taking the source code to MySQL, compiling their own product, and then reselling it? Nothing. You might say "It's illegal!", but that's ONLY in the USA. I'd bet there are at least 3 companies in China reselling MySQL right now. Since they keep their source code release up to date, this means NySQL's product will always be up to date. And since NySQL has a bigger presence in China, Chinese customers will always go to them first.
A better summary of TFA: The three most recent high-profile Open-Source acquisitions were massively overvalued (20x+ annual revenue). If you're not being offered at least an order of magnitude more than what your company is actually worth, you aren't trying hard enough.
;-)
Of course, if $100mil is the best offer, I'd still take it
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Of course not! It's nothing! It's peanuts! What an insult! What do you take me for, some kind of fool? One day you'll all look up from the gutter, you will, and see King Zoidberg caressing your fancy box!
I recently sat next the Digiums VP of sales on a flight. Personally, I feel Digium is on the cusp of a revolution in telephony, but the company needs some good leadership to capitalize on it. I also just spent two days reinstalling freaking TrixBox which had trouble dealing with the crummy TDM400 card I bought from Digium. The VP of sales seems to think their future is in proprietary software sales, like the deal with 3Com. He also is hyped about some acquisition of some proprietary software front-end to Asterisk, but the whole worlds seems to use TrixBox, and I don't see anyone lining up to switch to a non-free alternative from Digium.
Understanding open-source company strategies is a bit mind-bending, and unfortunately, I don't think Digium's current leadership gets it. They may be missing the real opportunity. Instead of making the software great and easy to use, which would lead to virtually universal adoption, they're doing the opposite, to help sell their services and proprietary solutions. If they were able to understand the value of being the provider of virtually all new telephony systems as an open-source platform, I think they'd bag their current strategy.
Problem is, most people think of open-source ventures as having 0 assets, and being worth 0.
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Their current management fits their profile and run-rate. Attracting and incentivizing management takes time, as well as the ability to structure the organization for rapid growth. One more PBX company will need to battle with seventy+ PBX/keyswitch companies already in the marketplace. They're distracted by their hardware revenues, as this makes up a disproportionate amount of their current revenues. I'm hoping it's a phase they're going through or things might go badly for them despite the current quality (very good) of their stable branch of code. Their community relations people have a bit to learn, but herding cats isn't easy. Overall, we would agree.
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Link to article: http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9853461-16.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20