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Pentagon Working on "Human Fear" Weapons

An anonymous reader writes "Animals use pheromones to attract each other for sex, and warn each other of danger. Now, Wired reports, military researchers are working to harness the 'human fear' pheromone to create a scent of terror. The pheromone could lead to smell-based terrorist sensors, and new weapons that rely on 'contagious' stress."

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  1. What could happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I fear it might not work.

    1. Re:What could happen by spun · · Score: 5, Informative

      I think you may be right. The vomeronasal organ is vestigial or nonexistant in humans, and there don't appear to be any connections between even vestigial vomeronasal organs and the brain.

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    2. Re:What could happen by fictionpuss · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I fear it might not work.

      I fear it's too late..

    3. Re:What could happen by RDW · · Score: 4, Funny

      'I am not a biologist, so I'll just ask; "Is it reasonable to assume that there even is a fear scent in humans?". Is there any evidence of it's exsitence in closely related species?'

      Well, with that kind of defeatist reality-based reasoning, how can we ever hope to complete the development of the Gay Bomb?:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb

    4. Re:What could happen by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2, Funny

      The odour is produced bacteria found exclusively in Dick Cheney's asscrack.

      Admit it! Even the thought of this incites fear and disgust!

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    5. Re:What could happen by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Informative

      actually fear weapons are quite effective...

      They did some testing and a army team facing a fight when told the enemy all has body armor piercing ammunition the dynamics of the team changed drastically and started to show signs of fear which would reduce their effectiveness as they would be much more cautious in their attack.

      Fear weapons have been used forever, they are called spreading rumors or false information that keeps your enemy at bay. The Russians did it to the United states for nearly 50 years in the cold war. They made it look and sound like they had a crapload more weapons and bigger meaner ones than they really did. It scared the shit out of the USA to the point where we even had the populace shaking in their boots and afraid of the USSR.

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    6. Re:What could happen by pushing-robot · · Score: 3, Funny

      Franklin Relano Doosevelt?

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    7. Re:What could happen by spun · · Score: 3, Funny

      Then why do I get so horny when I sniff your sister's panties? Because my sister has incontinence problems, and you have a shit fetish? OH SNAP!
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    8. Re:What could happen by Knowbuddy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I know the original poster was kidding, but ...

      Many people think of pheromones as "pop science" or put them in the same category as aether and quintessence and whatnot. But, I can prove to you that pheromones are very real and can do very interesting things. It's simple:

      1. Drive to your nearest large zoo, accompanied by a few women.
      2. Visit the gorilla area. Try to stand downwind.
      3. Ask the women how they are feeling.
      4. Profit!

      If you don't have access to women who will get into your car, go to the zoo by yourself and talk to random female passers-by. Or, find a guy that you can actually talk to, and have him talk to the women for you.

      Point being, a large number of the women will say that they feel uneasy or uncomfortable. Check their arm- and neck-hair: most of the women, and a large number of the men, will go pilo (fine hair stands up), maybe without even realizing it.

      Smell the air. Does it smell a little like sweat? Maybe like a gym locker room?

      There is a biological response in humans to the musk produced by gorillas. Most people might not even realize they're smelling the musk, as it's very easy to mistake for the sweaty smell of a large human crowd. Oddly enough, the reaction is generally noticeable for gorillas, but not nearly so for other large apes such as orangutans, chimpanzees, bonobos, etc.

      (If you happen to live in the Central Florida area, the gorilla exhibit at Disney's Animal Kingdom is perfect for this. There's a section that is often downwind of the gorillas and is surrounded by two high walls, and you have no choice but to walk through it.)

      Seriously. Next time you're at the zoo, check it out. No matter how smart you are, sometimes your genetics get the better of you.

    9. Re:What could happen by suggsjc · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nope, but close. People always wrongly associate this quote. It was actually his son Franklin Relano Doosevelt, Jr.

      So yeah, I realized I had made a mistake just as I was clicking Submit. Why does that happen? You can realize you screwed up the instant that you do it...

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    10. Re:What could happen by Muhammar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Our military has a long tradition of funding crackpots and loonies that do secret work on blood-curdling woodoo, see "The men who stare at goats" from Jon Ronson and "Imaginary Weapons" from Sharon Weinberger. Even the Scientology Church could learn new "spiritual tech" from our military experts.

      The idea of activating fear circuits by chemicals sounds like a pure moonshine - but there is no need for it because the military has already the equipment to project a loud shrill interference-laden high-pitch sound that makes one to run and feel like loading the pants at the same time (directionally projected over a half-mile distance). There are radar-like dishes to send microwave frequencies causing intense burning skin sensation through clothes. There are super-potent bad-trip producing hallucinogens and odors that make one puke his guts out. Even the good old tear gas can make enormous impact when the pavement is first sprayed with a thin film of lube slime...

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  2. Big fans eh? by Sciros · · Score: 2, Funny

    Looks like *someone* has seen Naked Gun 2 1/2 way too many times.

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    1. Re:Big fans eh? by Kuukai · · Score: 2, Informative

      Or Batman Begins.

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  3. women by EZReady · · Score: 5, Funny

    female pheromones would work for most slashdotters

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    1. Re:women by sm62704 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Slashdotter: "I smell a woman. RUN!!!!!"

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    2. Re:women by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      You can get 2-siders for nearly a dime a dozen.

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  4. The Pentagon by Smordnys+s'regrepsA · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Turning your "War on Terror" into the "War of Terror," since 2008.

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  5. Irony by traindirector · · Score: 5, Funny

    You'd almost think that after declaring a war on terror an organization wouldn't use terror against enemies in the most literal way possible...

    1. Re:Irony by drooling-dog · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Who said this is to be used on "our" enemies?

      It'll be used on ourselves, to make us more eager to accept the enemies that are provided for us, and more desperate for protection from them.

  6. Amongst our weapons by gardyloo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and pheromones...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise....

  7. The tinfoil hat was comfortable by barakn · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...but now a gas mask?

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    1. Re:The tinfoil hat was comfortable by ppz003 · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...but now a gas mask? Because you are afraid of fear gas...
  8. Bio warfare? by Fluffy_Kitten · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does that not count as biological warfare?

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    1. Re:Bio warfare? by whopub · · Score: 4, Funny

      Does that not count as biological warfare? Who cares! The whole plan stinks.
    2. Re:Bio warfare? by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, since the pheromones are not alive.

      It does count as chemical warfare, though.

    3. Re:Bio warfare? by nickptar · · Score: 2, Informative

      Alive or not, viruses are infective agents. Pheromones aren't.

  9. terra! by Lord+Ender · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The pheromone could lead to smell-based terrorist sensors, and new weapons that rely on 'contagious' stress."
    Awesome. Now people who are afraid of flying will have the added benefit of getting cavity-searched as a result of their fear.
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    1. Re:terra! by sexybomber · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yep, and once again, the real terrorists (who are presumably fanatical enough that they're not afraid to do what they're planning to do) will slip through.

  10. Too unreliable by Z00L00K · · Score: 5, Interesting
    You must consider that there has to be many reasons for people to send out stress pheromones, late for work, fear of flying, claustrophobia etc.

    And there is no reason that a suicide bomber actually is afraid - that phase may have passed over months ago and the person may have actually come to terms with his/her destiny.

    So someone is barking up the wrong tree again...

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  11. Fear Eh? by mixmatch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You mean a squad of guys busting into your house with sub-machine guns doesn't cause this effect?

    1. Re:Fear Eh? by sm62704 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They rated you funny, and it was, but you should have been rated insightful. I just recounted an episode last summer in the next to latest journal about how I, a hazel eyed gray haired geezer had my civil rights violated by the local police, FBI and DEA.

      As I was talking to the FBI gay, er "guy" before he searched me (putting his hands on my balls, why can't they have female cops search men? UGH!), he asked why I seemed so nervous. I went from nervous to incredible, thinking "WTF is this dumbass smoking?"

      "WHAT?? Because half a dozen big armed men just accosted me!" I replied. I didn't add "You stupid fucking authoritarian dumbass cocksucker!" as I would have liked to.

      Actually I wasn't scared at all, but I was mad as hell. What I was afraid of was that they'd piss me off enough that I'd do something stupid. Like slap one of them upside the head with a hooker.

      Dumb fucking cops. Nothing in my life has made me less respectful of police officers. They're called the D.I.R.T. team and the name fits the dirty bastards, all of whom IMO belong in a prison or somewhere worse.

      Now I understand why all the rap songs are so disrespectful of the police. I mean, I'm a white old guy, imagine being a black young guy.

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  12. Fear is not always a bad thing... by LiquidMind · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A weapon that exploits fear 'scents' could backfire just as easily. Traditionally, fear will cause someone to flee or at the very least become nervous and therefore have his/her decision-making skills crippled. But for some, fear is a great motivator. If i'm gonna get into a fight and feel extra fearful because of this exploit, i might come back twice as hard to overcome whatever is in my way.

    just a thought....

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    1. Re:Fear is not always a bad thing... by _KiTA_ · · Score: 2, Insightful


      A weapon that exploits fear 'scents' could backfire just as easily. Traditionally, fear will cause someone to flee or at the very least become nervous and therefore have his/her decision-making skills crippled. But for some, fear is a great motivator. If i'm gonna get into a fight and feel extra fearful because of this exploit, i might come back twice as hard to overcome whatever is in my way.

      just a thought....


      It'll also work great with protesters. Roll out a few of these "fear grenades" into a crowd, and they'll either panic and flee, or band together and attack. Either way, you can call it a riot and arrest them all for showing up.

      You won't even have to bother with a mole to incite a riot anymore. Score!

  13. Oblig. Simpsons by TheSpoom · · Score: 4, Funny

    Marge: What happened? You didn't do anything!

    Dr. Hibbert: Oh, didn't I? [laughs] Nothing dissolves glue better than human sweat. I knew Bart would panic and start perspiring at the sight of this button applicator!

    Bart: Couldn't you have just turned the heat up a little?

    Dr. Hibbert: [sinister] Oh, heavens no! It had to be terror sweat!

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  14. Why Fear? by TheLazySci-FiAuthor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why don't they make a "love" weapon instead.

    After all, I thought the US was supposed to have a reputation for turning enemies into friends.

    1. Re:Why Fear? by antime · · Score: 5, Informative

      Why don't they make a "love" weapon instead.
      Already tried, didn't work out too good.
  15. The Smell of Fear by BadHaggis · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Forcing a detainee to inhale pheromones which induce a state of terror and has not been classified as torture, Therefor, it can be freely used during interrogations to obtain information. Why bother with water boarding someone when you can induce the same levels of terror through a little sniff of fear.

    On the civilian side I guess my fear of flying will be detected every time I travel and I will constantly have to visit the little security office for questioning.

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  16. UN chemical weapons convention by gnalle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How is this consistent with the US supporting the UN chemical weapons convention? http://www.cwc.gov/ http://www.un.org/Depts/dda/WMD/cwc/ "The Convention prohibits all development, production, acquisition, stockpiling, transfer, and use of chemical weapons. It requires each State Party to destroy chemical weapons and chemical weapons production facilities it possesses, as well as any chemical weapons it may have abandoned on the territory of another State Party"

  17. Re:That quote about fear by JonWan · · Score: 3, Funny

    "We have nothing to fear except Fear Itself®"

    and spiders

  18. how about a Gay Bomb? by cutecub · · Score: 2, Funny
    ... oh wait.

    They already thought of that.

    What a shiny brave new world we live in!

    -S

  19. Surreal by Deadplant · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So congress is now officially, literally, irrefutably funding terrorism?

  20. What's actually happening is... by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is, of course, pure BS. It's just psyops. The goal is to make press releases about all kinds of non-existent technological advances in an attempt to discourage certain people from even trying to board aircraft.

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  21. Miranda/Serenity by phrostie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    am i the only one who see's a parallel with Josh Weldon's Miranda from the Movie Serenity?

    this is just messed up

  22. Terrorist sensors? by Bones3D_mac · · Score: 2, Funny

    Doesn't this sound vaguely like the Cylon "detector" from Battlestar Galactica? Same crap from the sounds of it. Right up there with those E-meter things the scientologists use to evaluate your thetan levels.

    I wonder if that measurement of the flow rate of ketchup we paid for ever yielded any results...

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  23. Re:That quote about fear by JonWan · · Score: 2, Informative

    A million geeks on slashdot and I can't get anyone to post the rest of the quote.

    spiders, snakes, werewolves, sharks, dying alone, zombies, clowns, heights, big dogs, robots with human brains, Johnson's wife, and... fear itself.

    And on top of that I get modded up "interesting "

    Oh, Well....

  24. PTSD by Nezer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As someone who is now in the process of recovering from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder this, literally, scares the shit out of me.

    It is simply stunning that someone can think this is a good idea. Fear is one of the strongest and most primal of all human emotions. Use of such a weapon (if it can even be developed) would be considered flat-out torture in my book. Anyone that has lived through the hell that is PTSD where your in a constant and uncontrollable state of fear would probably agree.

    I think it's safe to say that such a weapon would inflict some sort of trauma on the victims. Research suggests that 25% of the population will suffer from PTSD when exposed to a traumatic event (sorry I can't recall where I read this so it could be BS). A weapon that has the potential to leave 25% of victims exposed to this sort of delayed hell is incredibly irresponsible. PTSD can lie latent for many, many years (in my case it's been nearly my whole life).

    Just to reiterate, this is a really fucking terrible idea. Don't fuck with fear...

    Furthermore, scared people do some crazy shit. This is a very good and very powerful survival mechanism.