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Microsoft Insider Details Xbox 360 Red Ring Problems
kylemonger writes "A blogger at the Seattle PI has interviewed a Microsoft insider about the Xbox 360 project. The insider purports to have the background story on the 'red ring of death' (RROD) failures and why they are so common. 'RROD is caused by anything that fails in the "digital backbone" on the mother board. Also known as a core digital error. CPU, GPU, memory, etc. Bad parts, incompatible parts (timing problems) bad manufacturing process (like solder joints), misapplied heat sinks or thermal interface material, missing parts, broken parts, parts of the wrong value, missed test coverage. Any one or more, on any chip, or many other discrete components, would cause this. And many of the failures were obviously infant mortality, where they work when they leave the factory and fail early in use. The main design flaw was the excessive heat on the GPU warping the mother board around it. This would stress the solder joints on the GPU and any bad joints would then fail in early life. There are also other significantly high failure rates in other areas, like the DVD.'"
It's terrible!
Ring
of
Niggers
Oh noes!
Now the niggers won't be able to play Double Dribble and Dr. J vs. Larry Bird! Or whatever the niggers play on the video game systems these days.
RON PAUL '08
stop.
niggertime!
Sincerely,
Dr. Ron Paul
In other news, MS disclosed in a press report that internet pirates were the cause of the failures pirates were also blamed for the slow Vista sales, and how Microsoft Bob failed.
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This is so incredibly offensive I have to speak up. Ron Paul loves all races and freedom.
Who is defaming Ron Paul by linking him to blatant hate speech?
Is it Mitt "Future Mass Murderer" Romney?
Is it John "Off His Rocker" McCain?
No, it has to be Mike "Hitler" Huckabee. That dirty trick playing Satanic Preacher has gone too far! Quit your dirty tricks, you sorry excuse for a Hypocritical Baptist Minister.
Mike Huckabee is the real nigger hater here, but he doesn't hate spicks as much as Mitt Romney does. There are so many options for the racist voter in the Republikkkan party.
Hahaha yeah, so long as we pretend that Sony entered the console business last Christmas, this makes sense. You've made a fantastic argument so long as reality isn't taken into consideration.
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That's just because they haven't sold any yet.
problems and they had to pull the laptops off the market. Microsoft's Xbox originally used the Nvidia GPU but Microsoft tried to shaft Nvidia and got sued for it. Microsoft finally gave in and paid up after Nvidia asked to see Microsoft's books but when it came time for the Xbox 360, Microsoft went with ATI. And now we hear that the GPU is getting so hot that it's warping a circuit board. Surprise! And that has got to be pretty hot to do that. Did you know what FR-4 PCB stands for? That is Fire Retardant 4( FR-4 ) Printed Circuit Board( PCB ). It is what a standard circuit board is made of. I thought the Fire Retardant part seemed appropriate. ;-)
Anyways, what the heck were they thinking when they designed these? Burning PCBs are not good and IMO, only should occur in failure situations not general operating conditions. So I'm wondering if they saw the spec's on the PS3 and figured they needed more oomph from their system and overclocked the GPU? That or maybe their original cooling designs were too noisy so they figured they could get away with 50% cooling and 50% less noise. Regardless, a whole bunch of other parts will also show failures if there's enough heat in there to warp or burn the PCB so it sounds like the majority of the problem is cooling and that seems to be a system design issue. IMO.
Red Ring of Fire... How appropriate.
How's the PS3 doing? I've not heard much in the way of failures there. Just stuff on slow sales due to pricing and the Blue-ray/HD-DVD wars. Any of those PS3 clusters showing signs of over heating?
LoB
"Anyone who stands out in the middle of a road looks like roadkill to me." --Linus
The number of cycles and the amplitude of temperature change from low to high determine how quickly it will fail. Certain games will consume more bandwidth on the GPU, which has the most substandard thermal solution on the mother board, making it a lot hotter, warping the mobo and flexing the solder joints. Weak joints fail quickly. The better the game, the more often it will be played, again accelerating failures.
WHAT
THE
FUCK?!?!
Only a certain amount of bandwith should be used, or else? I don't know if it's just me, but shouldn't it run for as long as I want? With whatever game I want? Without breaking I mean
Another little gem:
I imagine the next big outrage will be when some of the folks who waited till Falcon to buy a console for reliability reasons, and has to send it in for service, gets a Xenon back!
You're a retard. Try reading between the lines next time.
The frustration inspired me to create a squidoo lens where I can complain about my experience with this stupid XBox 360 red ring of death problem.
http://www.squidoo.com/Xbox-360-Red-Ring-Problems/
Should we all simply expect any and all new Microsoft products to break?