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FBI Burying Doc Showing US Officials Stole Nuclear Secrets?

BoingBoing is reporting that the FBI may be burying the existence of a document that proves US officials stole nuclear secrets for eventual sale to Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. "One of the documents relating to the case was marked 203A-WF-210023. Last week, however, the FBI responded to a freedom of information request for a file of exactly the same number by claiming that it did not exist. But The Sunday Times has obtained a document signed by an FBI official showing the existence of the file. Edmonds believes the crucial file is being deliberately covered up by the FBI because its contents are explosive. She accuses the agency of an 'outright lie.'"

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  1. *Shudders with fear* by naturalog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you think this is scary, try to imagine all the things that we don't know about.

  2. Art of War Chapter 13 by techpawn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    7. Hence the use of spies, of whom there are five classes: (1) Local spies; (2) inward spies; (3) converted spies; (4) doomed spies; (5) surviving spies.
    8. When these five kinds of spy are all at work, none can discover the secret system. This is called "divine manipulation of the threads." It is the sovereign's most precious faculty.
    9. Having local spies means employing the services of the inhabitants of a district.
    10. Having inward spies, making use of officials of the enemy.
    11. Having converted spies, getting hold of the enemy's spies and using them for our own purposes.
    12. Having doomed spies, doing certain things openly for purposes of deception, and allowing our spies to know of them and report them to the enemy.
    13. Surviving spies, finally, are those who bring back news from the enemy's camp.
    14. Hence it is that which none in the whole army are more intimate relations to be maintained than with spies. None should be more liberally rewarded. In no other business should greater secrecy be preserved.

    Oh yeah, we're so stupid that we're going to let some reporter just find this filing we're trying to hide... NOTHING TO SEE HERE!
    The Art of war has been around since 5 BC, misinformation has been around longer than that...

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  3. Re:More attention by smittyoneeach · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Then again, maybe it is getting exactly the attention it deserves.
    It's kind of hard to tell at this point whether the allegations of the existence of a file by a whistleblower amount to Watergate or Haditha.
    If we swapped the media for the government, could we tell the difference on either end?

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  4. Re:Gee... by GroeFaZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Right, and as we all know, there is no difference between "I did not have sex with this woman, Monica Lewinkski" and "No, this document that might prove if officials from our government are involved in trading nuclear weapon technology secrets with the country the 9/11 hijackers were from does not exist", the latter of which chosen because it happened within everyone's attention span, or so I hope. Nope, lies are lies, and now back to whatever is on TV right now.

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  5. US media will *not* touch this, probably ever by Eternal+Vigilance · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So it's up to the foreign press, in this case the Times Online. (Makes my head hurt that a Murdoch-owned outlet counts as the best source of investigative, or at least reportive, journalism.)

    "The FBI has been accused of covering up a file detailing government dealings with a network stealing nuclear secrets" http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3216737.ece

    Which was itself a follow-up to

    "For sale: West's deadly nuclear secrets" http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3137695.ece

    Basically, the story was that Sibel Edmonds, an FBI translator listening to comm intercepts looking for Middle Eastern "terrorists," discovered evidence of a network of US, Israeli, Turkish and Pakistani nuclear weapons secrets trading. She's told the FBI - they fired her. She told Congress - they placed her under a gag order and threatened to jail her if she talked about it. She's even agreed to tell the story to any American media outlet (which means she's willing to go to jail so people can know), as long as the outlet agrees to tell the whole story, and not edit it to hide the truth. So far, all American sources have refused to cover the story.

    Interesting tidbit - the CIA front company, "Brester Jennings," for which Valerie Plame worked before she was outed by Cheney and company, had as its mission tracking nuclear weapons activity in the ME. Outing Plame meant the Brewster Jennings cover was completely blown, like a wiretap being discovered. Which means that Plame's outing, with its supposed rationale as payback for exposing Bush's lies about Iraq and uranium, may have been nothing more than a convenient two-fer with a great cover story, when the real goal was to take out CIA assets who were getting too close to something far more important.

    Sibel Edmonds' web site is http://www.justacitizen.com/>here.

    "I'd say what she has is far more explosive than the Pentagon Papers." - Daniel Ellsberg

  6. Re:Double standards... by Philotechnia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm going to guess that we have a fundamental disagreement on what constitutes the best interests of national security.

    I would imagine that a great many of those items classified as "matters of national security" are items that would damage the bureaucratic class, and would more or less do no harm to the security of the American people. Or, perhaps this abuse, if it exists, actually harms the people, by failing to show us what government truly is, and by keeping us ignorant and placated. After all, the bureaucratic class is damaged only by our indignation at its existence, no?

    The specifications of advanced military technological research (i.e. the Manhatten Project), and the identities of covert operatives are the only two things off the top of my head that justify being classified. Note that this does NOT include the amounts spent on or general focus of military research, nor the purpose and spending on covert operations. I want to know what my government is doing, even in these areas, ESPECIALLY in these areas, because it is here that the greatest potential for abuse lies, in my opinion.

  7. Re:Double standards... by azrider · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The words "matter of national security" should carry a bit of weight.
    This would be the case if the phrase (and it's cousin - Executive Privilege) were not used so frequently and so obviously to hide illegal/unethical actions on the part of members of the current (and former) administrations.
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  8. Which party will be embarrassed if it comes out? by dpbsmith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Won't someone at least hint at who those officials were, so that I can start making my ideological prejudgments on the credibility of the allegations?

  9. Re:Gee... by ushering05401 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The fact that it is not a surprise is what makes it so heinous.

    The initial reaction of outrage that a populace has after finding out something rotten about their gov is one of the strongest tools of a citizenry to police their representatives. See, if there is this sudden burst of emotional outcry politicians have to get all hands on deck to control the situation... not knowing how far or deep the populace is willing to pursue the issue they must fear the worst. Knowing the populace is acting on emotions causes those who want to keep their power to make wide sweeping and highly visible adjustments to the system to calm the emotional response.

    Once that initial outrage is gone, the citizenry are reduced to working through channels controlled by the very people who are acting against their best interests.

    Just a thought.

  10. Why the gag order? by Pros_n_Cons · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I read about this the other day on fox so although you didn't see it on CNN other news sites apparently did.
    People on slashdot haven't mentioned yet the reason for the gag order apparently is cause they want to investigate the officials and see whats going on.
    I know its a good knee jerk reaction to yell conspiracy but if you caught a spy in your midst wouldn't you want to counter intel back instead of just firing him and posting the paperwork? This whistle blower might have blown an investigation for all we know.

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  11. Re:Gee... by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know, it's sad when we can look at the Kenyan political system and wish ours worked as well. At least when elections are stolen there, the people give a shit.

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