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Mozilla Celebrates Its 10th Birthday

I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "Mozilla has turned 10 today. It's been a long, strange trip from being the once-dominant browser, going down to almost nothing, and returning to something like 25% of the browser market. 'With a sliding market share, Netscape decided to focus on its enterprise oriented products and gave away the browser but most importantly allow volunteers to work on the product. Mozilla was nothing but Netscape's user agent (the name a browser uses to contact the web server), a reminder of the first Netscape code name. Over time, Mozilla would become the name of the open source project, AOL would buy Netscape and Internet Explorer would get up to 90%+ of market share leading to the worst period in web browsers' history where innovation was a niche for Opera and IE remixes users.'"

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  1. In fairness.... by Otter · · Score: 4, Informative
    Internet Explorer would get up to 90%+ of market share leading to the worst period in web browsers' history where innovation was a niche for Opera and IE remixes users.

    Putting aside the fact that users who were sufficiently upset by this "worst period in web browsers' history" could always go back to Lynx and Viola...

    This seems a bit unfair to kfm and Konqueror, which made web browsing on Unix tolerable while Mozilla was still in shambles, Galeon, which put the first decent browser around the Mozilla engine, and whatever that Mac browser was called ... OmniWeb? Plus CyberDog!

    1. Re:In fairness.... by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 4, Informative

      and whatever that Mac browser was called ... OmniWeb? Plus CyberDog!

      I was there so let me elucidate. Mozilla began in 1998, so let's say Netscape died by 1998. On the Mac, the main available browsers were IE and Netscape at that point. Some people still used Netscape despite it not being supported, some used IE, some used minor players such as iCab and Opera. OmniWeb was a NeXTStep browser, not a Mac browser, at that point. CyberDog was a demonstration of Apple's OpenDoc technology, which died in 1997. CyberDog itself was only supported from 96 to 97, and never really caught on.

      In 1997, Apple buys NeXT and Steve Jobs takes over. Jobs makes a deal with Microsoft to settle remaining patent disputes (the residue from the "look and feel" lawsuits of the late 80's). That deal includes such provisions as MS investing $150 million into Apple, MS promising to develop just as many Mac versions of Office as Windows versions for the next five years, and IE becoming the default browser on the Mac, although not being built in the way it was built into Windows 98. Until 2003, Apple is contractually obligated to bundle IE and set it as the default browser.

      By 2000, the user base is fractured between just using IE, trying to get old Netscape to work, trying to get Mozilla or new Netscape to work, and trying out fringe browsers. (AOL made a few customized releases of Mozilla under the Netscape branding at the time.) In 2001, Mac OS X comes out. A new version of IE is bundled and set as the default browser. Mozilla eventually gets ported over. iCab and Opera get ported over. OmniWeb gets ported from NeXTStep (which is closer to Mac OS X than Mac OS 9 was).

      In 2002, some people, including Dave Hyatt, separate out the browser parts of Mozilla from all the other cruft, put it in a Cocoa wrapper, and release it on Mac OS X as Chimera. Chimera gains a significant userbase. It is now known as Camino for the same types of reasons that Mozilla Phoenix became Mozilla Firefox. Despite having similar goals to Firefox, Chimera's initial release was actually months before the first release of Phoenix (as Firefox was then known). At this point there is competition between IE, Chimera, and OmniWeb. Eventually, Firefox becomes available on Mac OS X as well.

      In 2003, Apple releases Safari, some months after hiring Dave Hyatt to make them a browser. Safari is built around WebKit, which is a fork of KHTML, the rendering engine of Konquerer. Later in 2003, Microsoft discontinues IE for Mac, and ever since then the main browsers on the Mac are Safari, Camino, Firefox, and to a smaller extent, OmniWeb and other fringe players.

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  2. Re:And what a great ride it's been by Anti_Climax · · Score: 2, Informative

    about:mozilla

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  3. Open Source ... by apathy+maybe · · Score: 2, Informative

    Should mention that this was the project that began the "Open Source" concept (as compared to Free Software), when a certain gun nut took the Debian guidelines for "free" and worked with Netscape and eventually created the Open Source Initiative.

    Personally, I prefer the term Free Software... :P

    Anyway, I'm using Firefox now, have done for a while. But my mother is still on Mozilla (a version that is getting on now, I can't remember which one though). One thing I've taught her, Firewall, no MSIE and much less problems (she also has a virus checker that does some small good, not sure if it outweighs the bad though...).

    I remember something nasty happening to IE years ago and having to download Netscape, and then slowly learning about this Free Software idea and eventually installing Mozilla.

    Ah, the memories.

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  4. Re:And what a great ride it's been by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Informative

    And so at last the beast fell and the unbelievers rejoiced.
    But all was not lost, for from the ash rose a great bird.
    The bird gazed down upon the unbelievers and cast fire
    and thunder upon them. For the beast had been
    reborn with its strength renewed, and the
    followers of Mammon cowered in horror.

    from The Book of Mozilla, 7:15
  5. Re:Once dominant browser? by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 2, Informative

    The summary doesn't make this clear, but the actual article is referring to Netscape as the the dominant browser from Early 1990s to 1998.

    Thems was the REAL browser wars. Do you have your Windows 95 Plus Pack yet?

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  6. Netscape really had a soul by Misanthrope · · Score: 2, Informative

    Back when I first started browsing with Netscape 1.0, it really appealed to me because of the obvious fun the developers were having.
    Take for example the Amazing Netscape Fish Cam
    http://wp.netscape.com/fishcam/
    You used to be able to hit ctrl-alt-f and it would load up a webcam with their office aquarium.

  7. Bug fixes by Kelson · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's just too bad that Microsoft didn't learn this lesson. With their browser safely at 90%+ market share and no real competitors in sight, they stopped development (except for bug fixes, of course).

    And only bug fixes that they considered critical -- security, crashers, etc. Nothing that would have fixed rendering bugs. And I don't just mean spec violations, I mean outright bugs that would make content disappear. When they did IE7, they combed the net looking for descriptions of known rendering bugs so they could fix them.

  8. Re:Thank you, /., for showing me Firefox by bckrispi · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've found that it's not the browser that causes frequent crashes, but the plugins (or themes). My home install uses the default theme, and only about 1/2 dozen "must have" plugins. My browser seldom, if ever crashes. However, there was a certain theme I installed some time ago that apparently caused a crash at least twice a day. Once I deleted the theme, I was stable again.

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  9. Re:Good Software Takes Ten Years to Write by kv9 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'd say it's faster then any other browser at this point. it ain't faster than Opera.