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Big Delays, Small Laptops: OLPC XO Recipients Mad

PCWMike writes to tell us about the growing concern over the failure of OLPC to deliver laptops to some of its customers. PC World editor-in-chief Harry McCracken notes that record-keeping was poor for some of the people who paid via PayPal. A report on LinuxJournal also suggests that customer information was lost due to errors in the database software used by OLPC. Quoting PC World: "OLPC spokesperson Jackie Lustig acknowledges problems with the ordering and the fulfillment process, but says the biggest challenges are a short supply of XO laptops and the organization's ability to meet consumer demand for the XO laptop. Some also wonder whether chronic delivery problems for Give One, Get One donors may bode poorly for the 15 countries slated to receive nearly 500,000 XO notebooks. Lustig says delivering in bulk to just over a dozen countries is infinitely simpler than processing and delivering 80,000 individual laptops."

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  1. Money transferred but no accountability? by Malevolent+Tester · · Score: 5, Funny

    They're really getting the hang of foreign aid. I applaud OLPC for their quick adaption.

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    1. Re:Money transferred but no accountability? by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Funny

      Also, they've unashamedly fucking over their early adopters and strongest advocates. Have they been acquired by Apple?

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  2. Why am I not surprised? by mi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Starry-eyed desire to save the world is a good drive, but fulfilling the orders and delivering on the promises requires a lot of mundane work. One needs to get "all corporationy" to provide consistently good service...

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    1. Re:Why am I not surprised? by rtb61 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Actually not true, in fact getting 'all corporationy' really means how far can you minimise service, support and the cost savings achieved do not exceed the number of customers lost, including the customary PR=B$ snow jobs, which attempt to convince the customer they are the only one with a problem and it was their fault anyhow and even so the corporation still cares about their problem and it will be completely resolved in two weeks, two more weeks, yet two more weeks, just two more weeks, honest just two more weeks, 'er', two weeks after a likely to be successful class action law suit is initiated.

      All OLPC needs to do is ensure they are able to focus upon delivery or subcontract those services out to a logistics company that can achieve those goals at a reasonable price. The logistics route is often simpler as those companies can readily handle break down packaging from bulk to individual orders as well as final delivery to the recipient and if required keep the recipient advised if there are any delivery delays.

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  3. It *is* simpler by BlackHawk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He is absolutely correct; a half-million units shipped to just 12 to 15 destinations *IS* simple by comparison. Just look at the complexities of UPS' operations in moving 80000 packages within the boundaries of the US, and that becomes apparent.

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    1. Re:It *is* simpler by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Interesting

      He is absolutely correct; a half-million units shipped to just 12 to 15 destinations *IS* simple by comparison. Just look at the complexities of UPS' operations in moving 80000 packages within the boundaries of the US, and that becomes apparent. Yep. This is why any company that does significant amounts of shipping has an entire department and sometimes more than one department devoted to it. Some companies even have entire shipping divisions. Moving a large number of packages quickly is a significant undertaking and that's why there's an entire industry called the logistics industry devoted to it. A friend of mine works in the logistics industry and her job is to coordinate the shipping of packages and crates to various places around the world. It's a big job.
  4. Please reconcile by mccalli · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the summary:

    "OLPC spokesperson Jackie Lustig acknowledges problems with the ordering and the fulfillment process, but says the biggest challenges are a short supply of XO laptops and the organization's ability to meet consumer demand for the XO laptop....Lustig says delivering in bulk to just over a dozen countries is infinitely simpler than processing and delivering 80,000 individual laptops."

    But how can that be, if the problem is short supply of the laptop?

    Cheers,
    Ian

  5. I hate being so untrusting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...but PC World, questioning OLPC's ability to deliver? And goodness me, look here: Intel and Microsoft with their alternative. No doubt Classmate sales-pitches will involve a lot of paraphrasing from articles of this type.

    It seems that a lot of recent OLPC stories are being drummed up to try and discredit them, and it is a bit sickening.

  6. Database Software Problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    But but but....The database sotfware is open source...It couldn't have screwed up since there are so many eyeballs looking at the code.

  7. Seems a bit mean-spirited... by Obstin8 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    This article, and others like it that I've read, seem a little bit mean-spirited. OLPC is, after all, a charity organization - a noble one at that -, and not some high-volume order fulfillment logistics operation. All these articles suggest a crass, inflated-expectation, instant-gratification, "I WANT IT NOW!", type of consumerism to me.

    I'm in Canada, and waited 7 weeks for my XO to arrive. No biggie. I've waited almost as long for Dell to ship correctly configured servers on occasion. Those were biggies. Were my expectations appropriate for each company? I think so.

    I'm sure that OLPC will honor all their commitments and get these orders out as soon as they can. Sometime s**t happens, and things falls through the cracks. People should just take a deep breath, and ask themselves if they'd rather have their XO right now, or have the one they donated delivered first.

    G1G1 doesn't stand for "Get one, give one".

    1. Re:Seems a bit mean-spirited... by apathy+maybe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly. OLPC project is not a fucking business.

      Their core job is not to make and sell laptops to individuals. What would be great here (and if the free market really actually worked...), would be for a dedicated company to step in and sell the things directly to people in over-developed countries. That way the project can get on with developing and distributing to governments, and someone else can distribute to individuals.

      Of course, they might cost slightly more because of the profit motive, but heck, most of them are seemingly being bought by geeks who already have 3 computers and can afford an extra $50 or so.

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  8. Re:Focus on what they do best? by adriccom · · Score: 5, Informative

    Oddly, that is who OLPC partnered with to do G1G1, and who share the blame for the screwups.

    Please see the draft flowchart, if you like:
    http://wiki.laptop.org/go/How_laptop_delivery_works

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  9. No, most people would be patient... by gorim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the online tracking database worked. As of now you type in your email address or order number and it can't find you. This leads one to believe that the order was lost even though payment was already extracted. At least with your Dell shipment, Dell could tell you the order was in the system and will ship in X time.

  10. the silence is the problem by xeno · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I ordered two -- in the first hour of the first day of the promotion -- to be shipped to my house in the US. As of today, I have nothing. No laptops, no email, no nuthin.' I phoned and confirmed that my order number does exist and indeed I have been charged for both the laptops (in November) and $50 for shipping (the day after Christmas).

    But it's not the lack of laptops that's turning me from an interested and cheerful donor, to mild annoyance when it didn't show up before Christmas, to contemplating reversing the charges. It's the lack of information. Sure, there are delays. Sure, there are priorities for getting big shipments out to major educational recipients. But I gave these folks $850, and I don't even get the courtesy of a *status* message?

    According to the schedule, mine should have showed up a month ago -- at the absolute latest. Before Christmas. I made the mistake of telling my kids about it, thinking I would teach them something about partnerships and donations, etc etc, and that's my own fault. But *still* even after phone calls and tracing and corrections... when I check the laptopgiving.org page, it tells me the order number is invalid, and that my email address is not found.

    The kicker is that I work for a UN agency that manages large refugee aid programs, and I had to borrow an OLPC from a friend to show it to the Education & IT department directors. They're very interested in the OLPC, as it fits some of the educational needs pretty nicely. What am I going to tell these guys when they ask whether the project is well-run, has decent governance, and can deliver?

    Sheesh.

    -Jon

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