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P2P Fans Pound Comcast In FCC Comments

Not Comcastic writes "Two weeks after officially opening proceedings on Comcast's BitTorrent throttling, angry users are bombarding the FCC with comments critical of the cable provider's practices. 'On numerous occasions, my access to legal BitTorrent files was cut off by Comcast,' a systems administrator based in Indianapolis wrote to the FCC shortly after the proceeding began. 'During this period, I managed to troubleshoot all other possible causes of this issue, and it was my conclusion (speaking as a competent IT administrator) that this could only be occurring due to direct action at the ISP (Comcast) level.' Another commenter writes 'I have experienced this throttling of bandwidth in sharing open-source software, e.g. Knoppix and Open Office. Also I see considerable differences in speed ftp sessions vs. html. They are obviously limiting speed in ftp as well.'"

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  1. Re:Failure of the natural monopoly by JCSoRocks · · Score: 3, Informative

    FiOS is available in some areas now. It got put in my old neighborhood right before I moved, so sad. My friend has it though and he claims it's faster than cable. I don't have any numbers but, what the heck even if it's just a little slower, anything's better than comcast...

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  2. How to view submitted complaints by verbalcontract · · Score: 5, Informative

    Go to this page and put "07-52" into the "Proceeding" field.

    Comments are in PDF form, so turn off "View in Browser" in Acrobat.

  3. Re:Trading one monopoly for another? by denis-The-menace · · Score: 2, Informative

    I heard that when you switch to FIOS they remove your POTS lines.

    Also, from what I'm guessing, it you don't like your ISP providing the FIOS connection, you cannot get another ISP that can use that FIOS connection.

    IOW: you are just locking yourself into another monopoly.

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  4. Re:fortunately by MBCook · · Score: 2, Informative

    Thanks to the 100M cable limit, Ethernet can't be used easily for that without going to fiber optic or something else... so much for the easy cost.

    I'm trapped with Comcast too. AT&T says they are deploying U-Verse near me (they've been doing the digging) but I expect it will be at least 1 year or two late. I can't wait to move off.

    There are a few options. You can use WiFi links over long distances with better antennas and a good line of sight... but this requires the other person to be able to get something like DSL etc. WiMax will fix this in decent sized areas, since it can cover a larger area than WiFi by a large margin. Too bad it's not available yet and will end up really expensive (you didn't expect Sprint to go cheap, did you?). You could use a 3G cellular modem... no... wait.. those are expensive and slow (compared to cable). Then there is white space internet which is only just starting to get tested by the FCC on an experimental basis. Powerlines don't seem to work well (big wires work like antennas? No!). Satellite is too slow (latency) and expensive.

    So if you are stuck on Cable, like me, enjoy. You'll be there for quite a while.

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  5. Re:Bit Torrent has been hijacked by thieves by schnikies79 · · Score: 4, Informative

    If ISP's didn't oversell bandwidth you would be paying $300/month for internet access.

    Overselling isn't the problem. Way, way overselling is. Some things can be oversold without a problem, including bandwidth.

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  6. Re:Industry move by Tassach · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm on Comcast, and I upload pictures to my photography website via SCP. The uploads get throttled after the first couple of MB. Encryption makes no difference to what they're doing. They don't need to know what's in the packets to decide whether or not to throttle them -- they can make that decision based on what's in the header.

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  7. Re:Industry move by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Informative

    Probably most do, I know of the people I work with more then half do. How so?

    • Most Web hosts don't allow unlimited outgoing access anymore.
    • Work servers are, of course, monitored. Unless you're the only admin... :)
    • Shell account providers, even ones that cost money, are becoming few and far between.
    • Most of us can't afford a coloc server.

  8. Re:Trading one monopoly for another? by cdrudge · · Score: 2, Informative

    They typically convert your copper POTS line to a fiber based one. From the point of view of your telephone service, there is no difference. You can't have DSL over it though. You can however request that they leave your copper phone line alone if you desire DSL from an CLEC. There is no sunset date for existing Verizon copper but one day eventually Verizon wants will turn off all copper and at that point you will be SOL.

  9. Re:Here we come Verizon by fred911 · · Score: 5, Informative

    "these people are horribly incompetent and have horrible customer service"

    Say what you will, but they are the ONLY ISP who didn't roll over and provide their customers info to the RIAA. Theyd
    fought for their customers right of privacy to the Supreme court and PREVAILED.

      In this day and age... that means something.

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  10. Re:u didnt share that HBO show? by DCTooTall · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well with the Warcraft updates, Blizz DOES have a server which you can download from. If you are behind a firewall the blizz client will sometimes connect to their own server to download the content from, it's just slow as hell. The nice thing is that with the supposed 10mil customers they now have, it makes it a lot quicker to get EVERYBODY patched then it would be if everybody was having to connect to the same choke-point to download the latest 300meg patch to be able to connect to the server.


    You can also download the patches from other 3rd party websites. The link if I recall is located within their support site.

  11. Re:So about that witch hunt... by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's false. There are numerous (Wireshark-confirmed) reports of RST injection happening on ANY TCP stream with a signficant amount of upstream bandwidth for more than a very short period of time.

    For example, there's a well documented incident where Comcast's RST injection is killing Lotus Notes sessions where moderate sized (>1MB) attachments are sent.

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  12. Re:Here we come Verizon by erroneus · · Score: 4, Informative

    Were you not paying attention when Qwest actually stood up and refused because they read what the law says?

  13. Re:Industry move by sith · · Score: 4, Informative

    While I'm not a pro-comcast person or anything, what you're seeing is disclosed - it's the 'powerBoost' feature which gives you a bucket of really fast bits up/down stream, after which you throttle down to the speed you've purchased (8/1 or 6/384k or whatever).

    So, I can get like 3mbit upstream for a bit, but then it scales back to 1mbit/sec. If I stop the transfer and wait a bit, then start again, I'll get the fast speed again for a little bit. Same is true on downstream - I'll get ~24mbit/sec down for a bit, then it'll throttle back to the 8mbit I pay for.

  14. Re:Here we come Verizon by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 5, Informative

    "let's compare national security, and rolling over to a government agency, as required by law"

    The phone companies didn't have to turn over anything "as required by law". The government made a request, and all the others gave them what they wanted when it WASN'T required by law. It wasn't a legal demand, because the government didn't have the legal right. Qwest basically said "show us the warrant and you can have any of the information it specifies". Seeing there never was any warrants, nothing was turned over by Qwest.

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