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China Vows to Stop the Rain

Since the Olympic stadium doesn't have a roof, the Beijing Meteorological Bureau has been given the task of making sure the games remain dry. According to Zhang Qian, head of weather manipulation (best title to have on a business card ever) at the bureau, they've had success with light rain but heavy rain remains tough to control. I see a hurricane cannon in some lucky country's future.

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  1. I can just imagine by WormholeFiend · · Score: 4, Interesting

    what the post-opening propaganda will be like if that day turns out to have sunny blue skies...

  2. Someone tell John Fogerty? by Fysiks+Wurks · · Score: 5, Funny

    He always wanted to know "who'll stop the rain?" The Chinese.

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    1. Re:Someone tell John Fogerty? by croddy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Really? Have you ever seen the rain?

  3. What in the hell? by LordKaT · · Score: 4, Informative

    Am I the only one seeing this retarded mess of a theme on idle.*?

    1. Re:What in the hell? by Lulfas · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's ugly and weird and scary :(

    2. Re:What in the hell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      doesn't render properly on firefox 2.0 either
      Your mom doesn't render properly in Firefox 2.0 EITHER!

      OH SNAP!
    3. Re:What in the hell? by croddy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      holy hell man this is the ugliest theme i have ever seen. make it stop!!!

    4. Re:What in the hell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Exactly my thoughts. First the retarded comment system, now this. Looks like Sourceforge Inc is desperately trying to save on server costs by losing visitors.

    5. Re:What in the hell? by orclevegam · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yeah, my first reaction was "WTF!?!?" so I went and checked some other articles to see if it was a new site design or something, but it looks like it's just this article.

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    6. Re:What in the hell? by Thelasko · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Eyes... Burning...Must... Make it stop!
      *smashes monitor*

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    7. Re:What in the hell? by jez9999 · · Score: 3, Funny

      You must be new to Slashdot. You know how most site developers have a local copy of the site that they test on and then sync to the main site when they're finished? With Slashdot, that's the main site.

    8. Re:What in the hell? by AmaDaden · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah. They were clearly designed to be on a white background. If the background of the actual story was white I would not have a problem with this layout it. Well besides the initial "What happened to my Slashdot!" factor and a few small size issues.

    9. Re:What in the hell? by realthing02 · · Score: 2, Funny

      This really changes the idea of "Big Game Hunting" doesn't it.

  4. Operation weather disaster by elyk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Any of you ever played that game? This reminds me of a quote by the evil genius: "Everyone talks about the weather, but nobody ever does anything about the weather. Well, I'm going to do something about it".

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  5. Rain's better than smog by randyest · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think I'd prefer to get wet or use an umbrella than breathe the horrible smog that blankets Beijing. In fact, the rain is often the only thing that reduces the smog and air pollution for a shirt while.

    NPR had a story about how they're forcing 1/3 of the cars to stay off the road and shutting down a bunch of factories to try to reduce the air pollution for the olympics. Maybe just letting (or making) it rain, instead of stopping it from raining, would do even more good.

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    1. Re:Rain's better than smog by DataBroker · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think I'd prefer to get wet or use an umbrella than breathe the horrible smog [guardian.co.uk] that blankets Beijing. In fact, the rain is often the only thing that reduces the smog and air pollution for a shirt while.
      Wired actually had an article, Smog and Mirrors, about this exact same thing. They actually wrote the opposite of TFA:

      And there's always the Hail Mary play: cloud seeding. Should air quality threaten to steal the show, the Beijing Meteorological Bureau promises to have its fleet of cloud-seeding aircraft warmed up on the runways, ready to bomb the sky with silver iodide and set off air-scrubbing showers over competition areas.
    2. Re:Rain's better than smog by randyest · · Score: 4, Funny

      Great idea. They should probably all take up smoking too. That way they can build up a protective layer of soot in their lungs prior to the olympics; that's sure to help their athletic performance.

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    3. Re:Rain's better than smog by randyest · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That sure seems more reasonable. But what would make the most sense, to me, would be to have used some of that cheap labor to build some indoor stadiums and HEPA air filters. I mean, who wants to sit for hours outside breathing air that, on most days, is considered "very dangerous to breathe," raining or not?

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    4. Re:Rain's better than smog by jellie · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In a strange (?) coincidence, China is experiencing blizzards that have severely hindered their railway system due to the difficulties of shipping coal. It might not be that bad come summer time, but who knows. It might help them realize that their dependence on coal is infeasible. And maybe the US should take heed.

    5. Re:Rain's better than smog by TheGavster · · Score: 2, Informative

      What sort of energy supply *isn't* affected by a blizzard? Anything that uses fuel relies on transportation links, and everything else relies on geography. Blizzards take down the thousand-mile power lines that get wind and solar to cities just as easily as they take down a train. I would say that shipping coal across a country is actually probably *better* than shipping oil halfway around the world.

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  6. Cloud seeding and cloud freezing? by KublaiKhan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not exactly 'new' tech...the silver iodide version's been around forever, and the liquid nitrogen version doesn't sound particularly revolutionary.

    It does, however, go along with the Chinese cultural desire to control the elements, which heretofore has been embodied mostly with the rivers--the legendary "Yellow Emperor" was the first to stop the flooding of the Yang Tze; the current government has thrown massive resources into the Three Gorges dam. Controlling the rivers has been traditionally (as far as I recall, anyway) seen as evidence of controlling the land, and thus of being a legitimate government.

    Controlling the rain, then, would be an extension of this.

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    1. Re:Cloud seeding and cloud freezing? by KublaiKhan · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Controlling the water means you control the people, as well--remember, China has been, traditionally, a largely agricultural country, dependent upon a certain flood cycle.

      If you control the rivers, you control the land they feed and drain. If you control the feeding and draining, you control the people who need that feeding and draining to survive, and to grow food. If you control the people who grow food, you control the people who need food--and that's more or less everyone.

      It all comes back to the water.

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      A stately pleasure dome decree
  7. I know how it is going to work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Chinese military transport aircraft will take off from Beijing loaded with kids and gigantic loudspeakers. You will hear chants of "Rain, Rain, Go Away, Come Back Again Another Day".

    1. Re:I know how it is going to work... by sethstorm · · Score: 4, Funny

      How would they pay off the various goldfarming shops that employ them?

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  8. Re:Action/Reaction? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    They don't actually *stop* the rain. It's most likely cloud seeding and similar... removing all the water from the clouds by making it fall early one way or another. Now, large scale weather manipulation is bad... but a few weeks in one city isn't going to hurt anything. Yea yea, butterfly effect and all... but also dynamic equilibrium.

  9. Idly misogynist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    My wife thinks cooking and fucking are two cities in China.

  10. Mad Scienteists by Laguerre · · Score: 5, Funny

    Zhang Qian, head of weather manipulation (best title to have on a business card ever)
    Mad scientists can't start out being James Bond villains. This seems like a great place for an aspiring mad scientist to work, fresh out of mad grad school.
  11. which meme fits best? by davidwr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Vote:

    *All your weather are belong to us
    *Only old North Koreans need dry stadiums
    *In Maoist China, rain drops YOU!
    *Imagine a Beijing-Wolf cluster of dry stadiums!

    and the obligatory

    *I for one welcome our new weather-controlling communist overlords

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    1. Re:which meme fits best? by MarkGriz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not a meme, per se, but this brings a whole new meaning to "Hacked by Chinese"

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  12. Paul McCartney has a story about this by Vampyre_Dark · · Score: 2, Interesting

    He says that during his Live in Red Square concert, it looked like there was going to be a storm, and officials sent a bunch of fighter jets scrambling over them causing the clouds to disappear, and soon after, it was a warm, sunny day. The story was much more detailed than that. It involved some official giving him assurance that the weather would be good on the day of the concert and other bits. A lot more interesting than I am able to recall right now.

    I wish I could remember when he said that, I could post a link to something.

  13. Re:Cheaper Solution by orclevegam · · Score: 2, Funny

    If it's too expensive to roof the entire stadium, they could just make hundreds of thousands of tiny roofs, and maybe put them on top of sticks. Then all they do is handle these little portable roofs out to all the people attending. The athletes of course might have a problem, but the actual area they compete in is much smaller and it should be much cheaper to build a roof there. Hey, someone call Bezos, maybe he can patent that portable roof idea.

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  14. Missing tag... by The+Damned+Yankee · · Score: 2, Funny

    whatcouldpossiblygowrong?

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  15. Nothing new for the Chinese by henrypijames · · Score: 4, Informative

    This thing isn't new at all: Eighteen years ago, at the 1990 Asian Games in Beijing, the organizers already managed to control the rain quite successfully. For instance, the opening ceremony which would have been disrupted by rain without intervention, ran smoothly in fairly sunny weather instead.

    The technique is simple: Detect in advance the clouds which could cause rain in Beijing, then send airplanes to spread special dust particles to cause those clouds to rain immediately, thus "empty" them before they reach Beijing.

    I'm quite convinced the Chinese aren't the only ones who's done this.

    1. Re:Nothing new for the Chinese by silicone_chemist · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nope, it is done in the US to encourage rain to fall on the best areas. Like fields rather than cities. Texas is doing it and so are other states I'm sure. http://www.license.state.tx.us/weather/weatherfaq.htm

  16. Butterfly Effect? by EdBear69 · · Score: 4, Funny

    So if they stop a hurricane in China, does that mean a butterfly here will stop flapping its wings?

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  17. Perhaps heat. by foxtrot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Believe it or not, the United States already has this technology. And it's in the hands of the rednecks.

    There's a stock car track in Bristol, TN that holds 165,000 people, and has 43 800+ horsepower cars running around an oval just a shade over a half mile long. This generates a lot of heat-- body heat, engine heat, heat from tires cornering on concrete fast enough to turn fifteen second laps. Enough heat that, as long as the race is still running, rain clouds can blow over Bristol, drench the entire city with rain, but the pocket of high pressure due to the heat (and possibly some counter-clockwise swirling motion due to the cars) will keep the rain from passing directly over the track.

    If the caution flag flies and the cars slow down for too long, thus slowing the heat output and cooling the track, the rain may start to fall on the track, but it takes one heck of a storm to make the rain fall while the race is green-flagged.

    -F

  18. Not that much rain to begin with by specific_pacific · · Score: 2, Informative

    Winters are dry and summers and not really wet, it's very much a dry city which is why the dust is such a problem. So maybe that'll make their jobs easier :)

    They do *make* it rain by exploding these sulfer/salt bombs though. It covers car in this yellowish coating sometimes.

    Before big visits it always rains for a couple of days before because they're doing this sort of thing. Then when the visitors arrive it's blue skies all round ;) Except for that time they forgot...

  19. Ha ha. Okay, China. . , you're scaring me. by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I don't like to rustle up fear where none is needed, but you can start wars with that kind of imperial over-confidence.

    Seriously. After having had a long discussion with a very propagandized Chinese student who was filled to the brim with all kinds of English-hating, One-China, Taiwan-is-ours, imperialistic lunacy which is being fed wholesale to the half billion horney and doomed-never-to-have-wives young male population, I got a bunch of the bad chills and had to change my prosaic views on what China was all about.

    This weather manipulation thing is almost certainly propaganda for its own people designed to instill even further levels of insane national pride.


    -FL