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Two Videos of E-Lead's Noahpad in Action

Engadget has a couple of great videos depicting the new 'Noahpad' laptop offering from E-Lead. This laptop offers a new kind of touchpad that is integrated with the keyboard. An interesting idea to be sure, but I doubt I could ever get used to typing on something this strange.

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  1. funny video by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ok, I know its not the point of the article, but if you want to make a serious product demo video (which it seems like they did), wouldn't you first want a native English speaker to massage the copy a bit before the British guy reads it? Excellently dictated British Engrish (Britgrish?), its a first!

  2. They call that a keyboard? by KublaiKhan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm fairly sure I saw that same design on a recent list of 'worst keyboards of history'--I'm getting carpal tunnel just thinking about typing on that abomination. Not to mention it's one of those flat things of the same type as your typical McDonald's cash register of late '90s vintage--and the chief difficulty of that kind of keyboard, besides the anti-ergonomic layout, was that frequently used keys would wear away, and the contact would become exposed--and shortly thereafter, break.

    The designer should be either shot, or forced to use it.

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    1. Re:They call that a keyboard? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      From the look of the video it was something a bit different... the trackpad appears to detect where your finger is (what letter you want to type) but to actually type it you seem to have to press the WHOLE half of the keyboard down for some reason. Watching the short bit where the guy was "typing" looked really painful. You can't type properly when the whole keyboard has to depress and then return for every keypress!

    2. Re:They call that a keyboard? by KublaiKhan · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wait, hold on...you're supposed to use this thing SMS style, with your thumbs?

      Now I know the designer's braindamaged. Nintendo thumb is bad enough; this guy apparently wants to turn us into thumbless lolcats or something.

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    3. Re:They call that a keyboard? by YuuShiSann · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you watch carefully, the guy using the keyboard needs to look at the keyboard while he is typing and his sleep is slow too. So I think the guy doesn't know what a typist needs. Typist needs to touch the 2nd key before the 1st is releasing. Merging all keys together will disrupt the feel for the typist. The design is good for those who type by using a single finger. That's why I think the inventor is not a good typer. It is an interesting design but without much practical usage. I feel bad that he invested his money on creating such a product.

    4. Re:They call that a keyboard? by Qzukk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      that frequently used keys would wear away, and the contact would become exposed--and shortly thereafter, break

      It looks like this design is different. It looks like two gigantic "keys", that are actually touchpads with a keyboard printed on top that have a switch underneath to tell the difference between just touching it and pushing down on it.

      The keys would eventually rub off, but then you're down to a blank touchpad. Anyone know how long it takes for laptop touchpads to wear out? Most likely, the switch underneath each side would break first.

      The virtual desktop thing is what amuses me most. I remember the bad old days when XFree86 defaulted to allocating the largest screen possible whether your monitor could handle it or not, leading to endless streams of newbies on IRC asking how to turn the damn screen scrolling thing off.

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    5. Re:They call that a keyboard? by mikee805 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They say in the voice over that a user us more likely to accept a bad keyboard than a bad pointing device(in windows). And they are trying to fix the pointing device, since most laptops have the emphasis on the keyboard. In short they are admitting the keyboard sucks, but thats not their focus.

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    6. Re:They call that a keyboard? by Samgilljoy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The commercial reminds me of nothing so much as when Homer Simpson introduced that monstrous car he designed for his half-brother Herb's company.

      I'm also a little confused by the CEO's assertion that "most people have laptop computers".

      Most people in the world don't have a computer at all, so he can't mean them.

      Most people who do have computers own desktops, so he can't mean them.

      Perhaps most people he knows have laptop computer, in which case, he can expect to sell the Noahpad to his mom and his friends, but I don't know about the rest of his market.

      Are we absolutely sure the Onion didn't do that commercial?

    7. Re:They call that a keyboard? by CastrTroy · · Score: 2, Informative

      I have a couple optical trackballs, and they do get a little cruddy. It doesn't so much affect the tracking as it affects how smoothly they roll. I only have to clean mine about once a week. It only takes 2 minutes. I think it's a small price to pay. I like that the trackball is always in the right spot on my desk, and that I don't have to devote a lot of deskspace to it. I also like that I can constantly keep on "moving" without having to pick the thing up and readjust the position of it all the time with like regular mice. This is actually quite and advantage in FPS games.

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  3. Add this to the Top 10 Worst Keyboards of all time by HockeyPuck · · Score: 3, Informative
  4. Agreed. by More_Cowbell · · Score: 2, Insightful
    It certainly is strange, and I'm not so sure I could get used to it either. But then wasn't the same said for many of the things we use daily when they first came out?

    My question is why? The video seemed to emphasize the idea of having a 10" screen on a 7" device. Where is the great application for this? I mean where is it you are needing to bring a portable that you have room for this but not a 10" version? It's not like it will fit in your pocket.

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    1. Re:Agreed. by CastrTroy · · Score: 2, Funny

      You obviously haven't seen the size of pants most teenagers are wearing today. You could easily fit a 7" laptop in those those pockets.

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  5. Old skool ease of use by El+Cabri · · Score: 4, Funny

    Finally, using a point-and-click interface will resemble using VI. The beard-suspender set rejoice !

  6. Harsh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    > The designer should be either shot, or forced to use it.

    That's WAY too harsh a punishment for the poor keyboard designer. I mean, all he did was design a hard-to-use keyboard, so he can't possibly deserve a punishment that awful.

    Better just to shoot the poor guy.

  7. could work. But not this one. by Janek+Kozicki · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Summary: they are using "Virtual" screen option, available since years in X11. Throw in two touchpads (one for mouse, second for scrolling on virtual desktop) and totally DESTROY the keyboard layout.

    Two touchpads are nice. I don't mind the lack of per-key response when typing, probably could get used to it. But the keyboard layout? C'mon, that will be the next PCjr of "dual-touchpads". PCjr inveneted pc101 keyboard layout, see?, so I bet that they just invented "two touchpads" thingy.

    If this is ever gonna work, it will be touchpads overlaid on a classical keyboard, and the border frame between them will be just to fit between the keys.

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  8. Re:Blogtard Noise Machine by mevets · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mod -1, Investor

  9. Re:Blogtard Noise Machine by Bryansix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not only is the keyboard a lame idea but the idea of making you scroll around the screen because the resolution of the desktop is greater then the monitor is dumb too. Been there, done that. It sucks. You miss pop-up windows all the time and never know what the hell is going on.

  10. Fractured English by Rorschach1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I love how the voiceover - done by someone who's clearly a native English speaker - sticks exactly to the fractured English script. You've got to wonder if it just wasn't part of his job to point out all of the errors, or if the non-native speaker who wrote it had too high an opinion of his own language skills to listen to him.

    1. Re:Fractured English by rasputin465 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh my GOD... I didn't watch the second video until after reading your comment. This is hilarious coming from a native speaker.

      "With this special feature, User can press any part of the touch pad... Just like the mouse, no matter THERE your finger tip touches any part of the touch pad, you just gentle touch, and it can execute input function."

      It's strange that the language in the first video is fine. You get the impression that the narrator tried to be nice and speak correctly for the first video, got in an argument with the script writers over lunch, and then said "Fuck it" for the second one.

  11. GREAT business model! by JonTurner · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why force buyers to purchase two? Customer satisfaction, that's why! Because, when that keyboard pisses you off for the last time, merely throwing one Noahpad across the room might not be enough to soothe your rage.

    Think about it. Wouldn't the *crunch* or that thing hitting a masonry wall at 40MPH with all those little *$(@#$# keys spilling onto the floor be really satisfying? You know it!

    Thanks, E-Lead, for putting the customer first!

  12. Slow typing speed by jon3k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This would _dramatically_ decrease your typing speed. On a normal keyboard, once you depress the first key, before the key has even traveled back to its starting position you've struck the next key. This is possible because the keys aren't physically linked. The key press isn't signaled once the key has returned to it's starting position, but after it's depressed completely. For you to type any two letters on the left or right hand side you have to wait for the "key" (the whole side) to return to the starting position.

  13. Re:very targeted ad campaign by Carnildo · · Score: 2, Funny

    ads? I don't see any ads because <ad blocked>


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  14. Laptop by the anti-Steve by geophile · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Look, I know everyone is saying the same thing, but sometimes, you know, you've just got to express yourself.

    This has got to be the absolute worst computer I've seen since the Adam. That keyboard is insanely ill-conceived -- the key layout, the split, the two big buttons idea. The display is horrendous. I've seen that sliding window idea on laptops and it really just completely sucked. Horrible. And it's just about the ugliest laptop I've ever seen.

    An abortion.

    Dreck.

    Awful.

    How sad that someone devoted all this time and money to such a piece of crap.

    Whoever invented this is the anti-Steve.

  15. They're just setting out to prove... by Chysn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...that British men sound smart regardless of the words coming out of their mouths.

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  16. Not if you rewrite the keyboard driver by MickLinux · · Score: 2, Informative

    Let me assume you're right, regarding this keyboard.

    I'm not sure you are.

    Quite simply, since the keyboard is also a touchpad, there is no need for you to actually depress the button to record a keystroke. A simple touch will do it. The depressing of the keypad is good for other functions, such as:

        (1) Mouse button. No different than a mouse.
        (2) Function keys/shift. Hit your key lightly, and it's a key. Hit it and depress, and it's a function key.

        I imagine that you could even select a function key with one hand, temporarily redirecting the other hand to an alternate usage. For example, select "c" on the bottom row, and you immediately put the other hand into greek (or hebrew, or math) characters. Select "Z" on the bottom row, and the other hand is shifted. Select "B" on the bottom row, and the other hand is mouse.

        For a greater extension, imagine that you have the same four "function" keys across the bottom of either keyboard. Then you essentially have four full keyboards of functions.

        In other words, even if this laptop were in Windows and completely unusable, it would be great to get this little gadget into Linux, and rewrite the interface.

        Now, my only other concerns are (1) uploading/downloading ease (does it have USB for a USB drive?) (2) expandable usability (printers, cams, etc: USB would be fine) (3) Power concerns (how long does the battery last? Does the battery feature pyrotechnic surprises?) (4) Durability.

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