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Experts Claim HIV Patients Made Non-Infectious

Misanthrope writes to tell us that Swiss scientists are claiming that with proper treatment HIV patients can be made non-infectious. "The statement's headline statement says that 'after review of the medical literature and extensive discussion,' the Swiss Federal Commission for HIV / AIDS resolves that, 'An HIV-infected person on antiretroviral therapy with completely suppressed viraemia ("effective ART") is not sexually infectious, i.e. cannot transmit HIV through sexual contact.'"

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  1. AIDS free world by qmaqdk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If this is true, then it effectively means that the world can be AIDS free in a generation. I'm willing to bet it's not going to happen, though. The drug companies have no interest in this.

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    1. Re:AIDS free world by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We've had a cure for tuberculosis for quite some time as well as polio, yet they are still around. TB still kills many people and has become drug resistant, because people don't take their meds on a regular schedule. If you don't take your aids medicine on time ( a more complex drug regimen), you will still be infectious. But none of that is particularly new. The new aspect is that they say that its not contagious when you have been on the regimen for a while.

      Now, the optimistic among us would have hopped that those on drug regimen knew they could spread the disease and modify their behavior accordingly. So this announcement should actually have little affect. If you were doing what the doctors told you to do, you weren't spreading the disease same as before. Maybe this would act as a motivation for some people? But it also might cause people to engage in riskier behavior and compound the issue.

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  2. Wow by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can you imagine the shitstorm that would ensue if they're wrong? It takes a whole lot of balls to not just put your reputation on the line like this, but the lives of thousands of people too. I really hope they're right.

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  3. Re:I'm not infected baby... Really.... by KublaiKhan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not all people who contract AIDS are engaging (voluntarily, anyway) in high-risk behavior.

    Also, treating STDs would provide opportunity for conversion of high-risk behaviors into lower-risk behaviors, e.g. you're in the office anyway, why not have a little talk about safe sex while you're there?

    Hence, treating the other (usually more obvious) STDs would presumably impact the treatment of AIDS for a number of reasons--counselling, earlier detection, and possible reduction of the viral load to a less-dangerous level.

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  4. Re:Your best bet... by KublaiKhan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're asking people other than you to change their behavior based on your principles?

    If you can figure out how to accomplish that reliably, then every government, armed service, advertising agency, and school wants to speak with you right now.

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  5. Re:Your best bet... by TehDuffman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is abstinence really that difficult? Yes
  6. Re:Small pox? by fabs64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Smallpox? You kidding me? The eradication of smallpox was a time of big governments, big non-profits, and a concerted effort for the greater good not for profit.

    Also, back in the late 1700s, someone couldn't patent a scab off of a cows back.

  7. Re:Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Everything is funny. Some things just aren't funny to you.

  8. Yes... by msauve · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the CDC.

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  9. Re:Encouraging news by tezbobobo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You may have read the article but your missing some pieces of the puzzle. The people who catch and spread aids via condom misuse are those who do not care in the 'heat of the moment'. Birth control pills don't enter the equation because they have nothing to do with the spread of Aids, except perhaps to persuade those who do not have them to use a little more abstinence.

    The best way to deliver these drugs would be to use a system similar to implanon if available, whereby any drug are implanted subdermally and released slowly. The benefit is that by having a steady stream lower doses can be used. Secondly, governments are constantly comparing the future costs of care for incapacitated aids patients to current treatment cost. When a sufficiently effective solution presents itself - if the cost benefit is good - governments *will* pay for it.

  10. Re:Encouraging news by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    or if your symptoms were so nondescript it could be a 100 things.

    Well shit. If you rule out the hard cases, an RN could do anything a general practitioner doctor can.

    That SHOULD be why they make the big bucks - the hard cases with confusing or nondescript symptoms. As a practical matter, most of them bail on anything they can't churn through in a 15 minute office visit. Even specialists are starting to suck. They can't be bothered to do any research, if the usual blood work doesn't solve the problem, they'll just roll through tests until they get lucky, or you just give up. Or die, maybe. And if your symptoms fall between specialties, you're completely fucked, because they can't be bothered to fill in knowledge gaps with...again...research. Which would help them put evidence together with their own expertise to make a successful diagnosis OR at least find the right specialist. But for most doctors, forget it.

    i'd say the most likely case here is that the doctor is right, and you just THINK you know better.

    I can back up the OP. I had a problem for 8 years that multiple doctors consistently failed at. None even came up with a guess, just saw me for an appointment, sent me off for the wrong test, told me they didn't know what it was, and referred me to someone else. When the 5th doctor in the chain referred me to the first, I said to hell with it and decided to live with the symptoms. I eventually got sick of that, and successfully diagnosed it myself. With Google, effort, and a brain.

    I feel sorry for others though. I'm a scientist and have good research skills. People shouldn't have to be forced to do their own medical care.