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RIAA Wants Songwriter Royalty Lowered

NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "Lest there be anyone left who believes the RIAA's propaganda that its litigation campaign is intended to benefit the 'creators' of the music, Hollywood Reporter reports that the RIAA is asking the Copyright Royalty Board to lower songwriter royalties on song file downloads, from the present rate of 9 cents per song — about 13% of the wholesale price — down to 8% of wholesale. Meanwhile, the big digital music companies, such as Apple, want the royalty rate lowered even more, to something like 4% of wholesale. So any representations by any of these companies that they are concerned for the 'creators' of the music must henceforth be taken with a boxcar-load of salt."

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  1. Wither Lars? by GoodbyeBlueSky1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I eagerly await the insightful words of Lars Ulrich, Dr. Dre, et al to explain to me why pissing off the people who were perfectly willing to pony up good money for concerts, T-shirts and, yes, full retail priced CDs was worth it in the end.

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    1. Re:Wither Lars? by Trogre · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And Bono. Don't forget Bono.

      On second thoughts, perhaps we should :)

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  2. LAWL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is too funny they want more money in compensation for each illegaly downloaded file yet want to give less to the artists that make it...

  3. Royalty or Loyalty? by syousef · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...because they're going about the right way of lowering the loyalty rate of artists and customers alike.

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  4. Re:You're assuming... by macdaddy357 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    RIAA: Recording Industrialists Against Artists.

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  5. Seen same with H1B issue by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The H1B issue is the same way: lobbyists squirm and wiggle to bend statistics and magnify (or make up) anecdotes to sell the idea that there are not enough citizen programmers or not good enough citizen programmers and therefore the industry needs H1B's in order to prevent an economic collapse. It is all just a ploy to get cheaper labor. This is what happens when business lobbyists have more power over legislators than voters. It's that simple.

  6. Re:Yet another reason for artists to go it alone by syzler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Aren't they supposed to be on the artists' side?

    Yes, just not the artist you thought. They are really on the side of the con artists (I.E. the corp backers).

  7. Re:You're assuming... by TheLink · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If they actually use the "Save the Artists" thing then maybe someone should sue them for _fraud_ just to publicise the issue and drop the case quietly before it goes to court ;).

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  8. Re:Yet another reason for artists to go it alone by urcreepyneighbor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Stupid pigopolists. Eh. That's too close for "capitalist" for my liking. What you've got is a cartel that's trying to keep itself alive. True Capitalism - I'm talking Ayn Rand style Capitalism - would laugh at this pathetic copy.

    Aren't they supposed to be on the artists' side? The RIAA? No.... It's the Recording Industry Association of America. Keyword is "Industry".

    Trust me: the industry can find a thousand people to write crap like this:

    Oh baby, baby
    Oh baby, baby
    Oh baby, baby
    How was I supposed to know
    That something wasn't right here
    Oh baby baby

    This blatant money-grab is just one more nail in their coffin. Yes, but you didn't kill the bastard before putting him in the coffin! Duh! He's banging and screaming and pissing & shitting himself senseless - because he knows, unless someone rescues him, he'll die soon. ;)

    More artists will find ways to sell directly to the public, Well, the ways already exist.... It's easy for a new artist to go this route, but for an established band with contracts and whatnot... notsomuch.

    For the record, one of my all time fav artists does this. Ayria. She's cute, too!

    or form their own collectives with their own interests at heart. ooh, goodie! How long until they become just as bad - or worse - than the RIAA? Seriously, this tendency of people to group themselves.. is boring... and annoying.

    Of course, that's how the RIAA started, Wait, hold on! You KNOW that has happened in the past and you want to repeat it?!

    What?! Should we try Communism ONE MORE TIME because THIS TIME we'll "do it right"? Ha. Come on. ;)

    but it is well past its usefulness and needs to be replaced. Eh. The RIAA will continue to exist, in some form, for a long time. The fangs need to be removed, tho.
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  9. Re:Yet another reason for artists to go it alone by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They are constantly beathing that drum, claiming to be looking out for the "artists, songwriters, [and] musicians" but that's just propaganda. If they admitted they were just looking out for record company executives, it wouldn't go over as well. Here they have shown their true colors.

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  10. That's it... by Fuji+Kitakyusho · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From now on, I'm pirating everything, and I'll mail some money to the band.

  11. 8/13 = 62% by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Cutting 13% down to 8% is a 38% reduction.

    So everyone else's cut is going up, even though the songwriter's costs and work are the same. But the rest of the "value" chain to the consumer (which now is composed mostly of the consumer, recommending and trying to share the content) is drastically reduced in cost and increased in availability of inventory (which was typically paid off according to plan many years ago).

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  12. An Explanation of The Issues by Crypto+Gnome · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At issue is the so-called "mechanical royalty" -- payments made for copies of sound recordings, including those made by digital means, to songwriters and publishers. Basically, the problem is, when you're speaking DIGITALLY, there is no difference between "copying a recording" (ie download for the purposes of saving a file) and "performing a recording" (download eg streaming, for the purposes of audio playback in the physical world).

    For This Reason, New Media Players (Apple, Yahoo, Napster, etc) argue that the "mechanical royalty for copyright" should be lowered significantly on digital downloads (specifically, to 4%).

    RIAA etc argue the fee should be dropped only slightly (specifically, only to 8%).

    RIAA are arguing to maintain profits for their (arguably, exceedingly dinosaur-like) "distribution model".

    "While record companies have been forced to drastically cut costs and employees, music publisher catalogs have increased in value due to ...... alternative revenue streams made possible, but not enjoyed, by record companies." ie "we see you've worked out new ways to make profits, so pay us (even more) money even though we have not contributed anything new to the equation".

    The New Media crew are arguing the way of sanity and intelligence. (ie trying to push the 'downloads are effectively performances, because there's no way to differentiate' argument)

    New-media companies want the rate to go even lower, contending that it should disappear when music is digitally streamed.
    Every time you hear something new from the RIAA it boils down to "someone needs to shovel more money into our bank accounts, without any additional effort or contribution on our part. Our business model dictates an infinitely increasing profit margin, for infinitely decreasing effort, ad-infinitum."

    And the same can be said of those ISPs who intend to violate the concept of "net-neutrality". ("someone's making money , and the bits cross our network. Ignore the fact we already billed someone for those bits, I want to directly bill BOTH the producer AND the consumer of those bits, even though they have NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with me").

    That's not a business-model, that's a fantasy.
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  13. Re:Yet another reason for artists to go it alone by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The only thing they know to do is lose money.

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  14. Re:Yet another reason for artists to go it alone by Eskarel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Communism according to Marx is the small town writ large. That's it. No magic, no huge government aparatus, no secret police, it's just the idea that as we evolve as a society we will find a way to interact economically with each other in a billion person city the way we did when we had a town of 20 and we knew everyone. It's basically ethics without observation.