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Deal Reportedly Reached In Writers' Strike

BlueshiftVFX writes to let us know that the writers' strike may be over. CNBC and other media are quoting former Disney CEO Michael Eisner: "It's over. They made the deal, they shook hands on the deal. It's going on Saturday to the writers in general... A deal has been made, and they'll be back to work very soon."

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  1. Is it? by porcupine8 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I've heard rumblings elsewhere that Eisner is spewing crap, and honestly he's not someone I'm going to trust without outside confirmation. When a writer says it's over, I'll believe it.

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  2. Terms? by timeOday · · Score: 3, Insightful

    With no linked article and no information in the summary, I'm curious if the writers got their Internet distribution royalties after all?

  3. Re:This is news for nerds... by rainmayun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... because many nerds watch tv.

  4. Seems like noone won by TheBiGW · · Score: 2, Insightful

    'As a result of studio cutbacks, however, many of the writers who went on strike are unlikely to return to the same big-money contracts they'd had as individuals with the studios.' It seems like no-one won from these strikes. TV companies take write downs, writers are not paid as well as they were, everyone looses.

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    1. Re:Seems like noone won by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Insightful

      'As a result of studio cutbacks, however, many of the writers who went on strike are unlikely to return to the same big-money contracts they'd had as individuals with the studios.'

      That sounds a lot to me like "We fired these guys for supporting the union, but we can't say that because that would get us in trouble with the NLRB."

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    2. Re:Seems like noone won by Sancho · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The studios weren't making as much money due to the strike. It's pretty reasonable for them to cut back on the budget. Now that the writers are willing to write again, they get to deal with the budget.

      I was pulling for the writers from the beginning, but we can't pretend that money just grows on trees like the government likes to think.

  5. Sooooo.... by nickj6282 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We're just not going to get an article with this one? Are we supposed to take Kdawson's word for it? Way to go!

  6. Darn by hansamurai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Part of me was hoping this would never be resolved and that this would eventually cause a media revolution. Whether it was the rise of local access channels or simultaneous live airing and official torrent release, I thought there was a small chance it might have really changed things from top to bottom.

    Ah well, at least The Office will be back.

  7. Re:Was that still going on? by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Personally, I thought Conan, Colbert and Stewart were a lot funnier WITHOUT the writers. It forced them to get creative for the first time in years. Now that the writers are coming back, looks like it's back to the 10-millionth reiteration of "Masturbating Bear" and other tired old skits.

    Could they have just STAYED on strike?

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  8. Re:I guess... by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I guess now the shows can go back to the same tired old bits they were rehashing before the strike forced them to get creative for the first time in years. -sigh-

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  9. Re:Was that still going on? by gnick · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Conan, Colbert and Stewart were a lot funnier WITHOUT the writers They were hilarious, but uneven. A lot of what they did was novel and fun. But, a lot was pretty weak. As fun as the "feud" was at times, other times it was obviously a lot more drawn out than it needed to be (Captain Obvious, I know...)

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  10. Re:This is news for nerds... by homey+of+my+owney · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Damn, in time for the Oscars... Why couldn't they hold out for another couple of weeks?

  11. Re:Was that still going on? by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In all fairness, I'm not sure the "According to Jim" writers deserve your vigorous defense.

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  12. Re:So... by OG · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's thinking a bit short term. If their terms are met like they were hoping, it means that they're not cut out of emerging media outlets. That's going to be an important point in the next couple of decades as people shift their content viewing to legitimate online venues and away from traditional television.

  13. Re:So what? by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Does anyone really even give a damn anymore?

    Uhh, yeah. I'd like my last season of BSG, thankyouverymuch.

    Plus a couple of other shows, but that one's top of the list.

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  14. Re:Was that still going on? by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2, Insightful
    a large portion of those who work hard to entertain you


    If someone doesn't watch tv, then how are/were they affected by this strike? They weren't. I do watch some tv but didn't really notice any change except for reruns of 'How I Met Your Mother' and 'The Big Bang Theory'. Other than that, no problems here either.

    Aside from that, this is probably one of the few times I will agree with a union demand. In this case, yes, the writers should get compensated for their work when that work is sent online, on DVD or elsewhere. The medium doesn't matter. The fact of the matter is, they worked to produced the product, they should get compensated.

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  15. Re:This is news for nerds... by bkr1_2k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because they want something to come back to when they reach a deal. If they held out past the oscars many "analysts" of the industry speculated they wouldn't be able to recover their viewers. As it is I suspect most of the decent new shows are going to be dead anyway.

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  16. Re:I need only three words to explain this by howdoesth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Joss Whedon, Dollhouse. I was really expecting Dollhouse to get killed during the strike before it ever even had a chance to get off the ground, but it looks like Fox is fully committed to letting me see it, fall in love, and then break my heart after 14 episodes. Thanks, guys.
  17. Writers' incomes by jacobw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah. As it is, those folks only make $75000 to $100000 a year. That's not much to live on.
    Actually, writers' incomes are all over the place. According to the WGA's annual report, 45% of its members had no income at all in 2006. (Or, at least, no writing-related income; they may have been waiting on tables or doing something else to pay the bills.) Of those who DID work, 25% earned less than $38,740, while 5% earned more than $685,000! With such a wide disparity, you can juggle the statistics to suggest pretty much anything you want. The studios said something like "Working writers earn an average of $200,000 a year" while some writers said things like "the median income of a writer is below $5,000." I suspect both those statistics are, technically, true--notice that one is about an average while the other is about a median.

    Personally, I think the most useful way of looking at a writer's salary is this: 55% of WGA members are employed in a given year, and among those who are employed in a year, the median income is about $107,000. So, with a 55% chance of earning $107,000, your expected annual income is $58,850. This is an excellent income if you are young and single. If you have kids and a mortgage, and you live in LA or NYC (two of the most expensive cities in America), then it's still a good wage, but it's not mansion-and-a-yacht level. This confirms my own experience--the WGA is basically a middle-class union, negotiating with multibillion dollar global companies.

    (I know--I'm making a number of assumptions in my analysis, but I'm not a statistician and I have to simplify things a little. I'd welcome corrections from any of the numerous Slashdot readers who must be better at statistics than I am!)
    1. Re:Writers' incomes by crashfrog · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So, with a 55% chance of earning $107,000, your expected annual income is $58,850. This is an excellent income if you are young and single.

      Except that it's also a 45% chance of having no income at all (at least not from writing), and that's not so great. It's pretty hard to pay the rent with a 55% chance of having money.

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  18. Re:I guess... by zenkonami · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, I think this past decade has been one of the most creative decades for Television since the medium began. Anywhere from BSG, The Sopranos and 30 Rock to Lost, The Office and Heroes. And let's not forget Firefly.

    Now are the geeks happy?

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  19. Re:Was that still going on? by Deagol · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You could ditch (broadcast) TV entirely. Rent movies and quality TV shows on DVD. It takes a few weeks/months to "decompress" from the frenetic need to have some sort of constant visual stimulus to occupy your spare time, but afterwards, you'll both be much better off. Read, play cards, listen to music, or, you know, *talk* with each other. :)

  20. Re:Outsourcing Scriptwriters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You mean comedy that is actually funny?

  21. Re:I guess... by moosesocks · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've actually been rather impressed with some of the new TV programming over the past few years. Also remember that 99% of anything is crap (and that includes reality shows)

    Lost is far from formulaic and repetitive, although the writers have been taking it a bit too far, and need to start winding down the series (ideally in one or two seasons, rather than the proposed three). I lost track halfway through the second season, so I can't comment on how it's been recently.

    Heroes is one of the most popular shows today, and has terrific nerd-appeal. The current season has been somewhat subpar, but the original series was engaging and enjoyable.

    Battlestar Galactica is easily the best-written and produced Sci-Fi series to air in years. It's also quite a bit more palatable for normal audiences.

    24 is the best 80s action movie ever made. Although I don't particularly agree with its politics, it's quite an engaging storyline.

    House is quite good. Perhaps becoming a bit repetitive, but definitely the best of the "medical" shows.

    Mythbusters? How can you read slashdot and not love mythbusters, even in spite of their disregard for the scientific method?

    The Daily Show and Colbert Report singlehandedly got an apathetic generation interested in politics. That's no small feat.

    Over in the UK, they've got Top Gear, The Mighty Boosh, the current incarnation of Dr Who, along with a fantastic array of other programming that doesn't make it to the US -- Thanks to advances in filmmaking technology, their documentaries and nature series are also absolutely captivating to watch.

    (After writing this post, I feel the need to assert that I'm not a couch potato! The magic of TiVo lets me save the good stuff for saturday nights.)

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  22. Re:Outsourcing Scriptwriters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Hell yeah! It'll be the only new and interesting thing on television in the last 20 years. I'm all for it.

  23. Re:Was that still going on? by netsavior · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Who lost their houses?
    the thousands and thousands of working class people who run lighting, sound, catering, construction, etc etc for these shows.

    The writers and the studios are probably among those LEAST effected by this strike.