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Biofuels Make Greenhouse Gases Worse

vortex2.71 sends us to the Seattle Times for an account of two studies published in the prestigious journal Science pointing to the conclusion that almost all biofuels used today cause more greenhouse-gas emissions than conventional fuels if the full emissions costs of producing these "green" fuels are taken into account. "The benefits of biofuels have come under increasing attack in recent months, as scientists took a closer look at the global environmental cost of their production. These plant-based fuels were originally billed as better than fossil fuels because the carbon released when they were burned was balanced by the carbon absorbed when the plants grew. But that equation proved overly simplistic because the process of turning plants into fuels causes its own emissions — for refining and transport, for example. These studies... for the first time take a detailed, comprehensive look at the emissions effects of the huge amount of natural land that is being converted to cropland globally to support biofuels development."

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  1. Names are easy... connecting the dots... by denzacar · · Score: 5, Informative

    Use of U.S. Croplands for Biofuels Increases Greenhouse Gases Through Emissions from Land Use Change
    Timothy Searchinger 1*, Ralph Heimlich 2, R. A. Houghton 3, Fengxia Dong 4, Amani Elobeid 4, Jacinto Fabiosa 4, Simla Tokgoz 4, Dermot Hayes 4, Tun-Hsiang Yu 4

    1 Woodrow Wilson School, Princeton University, Princeton, NJ, USA. German Marshall Fund of the U.S., Georgetown Environmental Law and Policy Institute.
    2 Agricultural Conservation Economics, Laurel, MD, USA.
    3 Woods Hole Research Center, Falmouth, MA, USA.
    4 Center for Agricultural and Rural Development, Iowa State University, Ames, IA, USA.

    How Green Are Biofuels?
    Jörn P. W. Scharlemann and William F. Laurance

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  2. Re:Stupid Article by LaskoVortex · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is one reference. Original references are usually much less alarmist than the stupid news stories created by journalists who don't understand what they are reporting. This is corn ethanol, which is known to be an inefficient source of energy, so the Science article comes as no great surprise--though it does contradict an earlier report in PNAS. The journalism mistakenly groups all biofuels with corn here (unless the article irresponsibly leaves out other references). Independent studies would need to be done for every biofuel source to warrant the sweeping generalizations of the Seattle Times article.

    There should be a law.

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  3. Cellulosic ethanol by milsoRgen · · Score: 5, Informative
    U.S. Production:
    still in development; no current production

    Sources of Cellulosic Ethanol:
    • Agricultural residues (left over material from crops, such as the stalks, leaves, and husks of corn plants)
    • Forestry wastes like wood chips and sawdust from lumber mills, tree bark
    • Municipal solid waste (household garbage and paper products)
    • Paper pulp
    • Fast-growing prairie grasses, such as switchgrass, which require less energy (tractors, fertilizers, etc.) and can grow on marginal land


    Energy Balance
    Fossil-fuel energy used to make the fuel (input) compared with the energy in the fuel (output)
    1 to 2-36

    Greenhouse gas emissions (production and use)
    Gasoline=20.4, Cellulosic ethanol 1.9 (lbs/gallon)

    Sources: U.S. DOE; U.S. EPA; Worldwatch Institute
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  4. Re:Hm... by Planesdragon · · Score: 5, Informative

    to produce 1 gallon of oil equivalent for ethanol requires inputs of, say, 1.1 gallons of oil. 1: Sorry, you got the ratio wrong. One gallon of oil produces, worst-case, the equivalent of 1.1 gallons of gasoline as ethanol.

    2: Even this slim ratio applies ONLY when you use corn kernels to produce ethanol. Not the stalk. Not the cob. Just the fracking kernel.

    Brazil gets a 300% energy efficiency for growing sugar cane to make ethanol. That's "spending 1 gallon of gas to get the equivalent of 3 gallons."
  5. Re:Hm... by qw0ntum · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm not surprised that biofuels actually make the situation worse. I've been saying that all along; our nation's approach to biofuels (particularly using corn) was a poorly thought out political move to cater to the corporate farm lobby. It was really convenient in that it allowed politicians to act "green" and look like they were moving away from supporting big bad Middle East oil (which is in large part financed by American companies under American-supported governments... that's a discussion for another day). Maybe this report will finally start convincing people that biofuels really, really aren't a proper solution to environmental problems. The only way to REALLY hit the root of the problem is to reduce consumption of stuff. I'm not going to pretend that's easy or even practical, but this talk about biofuels, alternative energy, etc. is just pussy-footing around the real issue that we as a species are consuming more than this planet can support.

    It's also important to note that the VAST majority of our petroleum imports don't actually come from the Middle East! The DOE says so itself. Our top two petroleum importing countries are... Canada and Mexico!

    Biofuels were never about being a real solution. It was always about political capital for politicians and special interests. Now we at least have more science to show how messed up biofuels really are.

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  6. Re:Simplistic FUD piece... by mechsoph · · Score: 5, Informative

    The reason "high-fructose corn syrup" is used is because sugar cane is more difficult to grow.

    No, the reason HFCS is in everything in the US is because our high sugar tariffs make the domestic sugar price double the global price. If it weren't for the tariff, we'd import cheap sugar from our friendly neighbors down south, and US Coke wouldn't taste so lousy.

  7. Re:Hm... by flyingsquid · · Score: 4, Informative
    There are other ways of doing that: nuclear, or the massive oil fields in Alaska. But no politician seems willing to put them all on the table and compare the pros and cons of each.

    Nobody's really sure how much oil is in ANWR, but the estimates run from 5.7-16 billion barrels, with a mean of 10.4 billion barrels. To put things in perspective, Saudi Arabia has about 250 billion barrels of reserves, and Iran and Iraq put together have about that much. Kuwait and the UAE each have about 100 billion barrels. Personally, I'm in favor of developing ANWR if we can ensure that a close watch is kept on the oil companies to make sure they don't screw up the environment, but there's no way it will end our dependence on the Middle East.

  8. Re:What about solar? by martyros · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's no such thing as overconsumption.

    "Overconsumption" is akin to "overspending". If you have an income of $2000 and $100K in the bank, and you're spending $10000 a month, you're overspending. You can get away with it until your "banked" resources run out, at which case you will be spending only $2000 a month. The only question at that point is whether you've prepared your finances for that sudden change, or whether things will crash and burn (i.e., your home and car get reposessed, you have to pay exhorbitant cancellation costs for cell phone contracts, &c).

    If your income is from your capital (i.e., if your income is dividends from stocks, &c), you have an even worse problem: that the more of your savings you spend, the less income you have. If you keep spending at your "overspending" rate, you'll eventually have no capital at all. Moderation early on may mean a sustainable income of $2000, but the longer you wait to adjust to your sustainable income, the lower your sustinable income will be when you finally get your head on straight.

    Oil, coal, copper, steel, and other non-renewable resources are like money in the bank. Right now our energy consumption, as a society, is several times what our "income" is from renewable energy sources. We're running on our "bank" of oil, coal, &c. What happens when the oil & coal run out, if we don't find a renewable energy source that can provide us energy at the rates we're used to? "The market will adjust", certainly, but it's likely that it will "adjust" by massive wars, anarchy, starvation, and societal collapse. (See "Collapse", by Jared Diamond for a history of many such past societies that have had exactly that happen.)

    Renewable resources like ocean fish, trees, and soil are like the stock market. If fishing and logging happen at replacement rate, then you have a sustainable renewable resource indefinitely. But if you fish or log at more than replacement rates, then your stock of reproducing fish or trees goes down, meaning a lower rate of the sustainable resource, until the resource is finally exhausted and cannot be renewed.

    With these kind of fixed resources, "overconsumption" definitely has a well-defined meaning that has nothing to do with "externalities".

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  9. Re:Hm... by vbraga · · Score: 3, Informative

    Disclaimer: I'm Brazilian.

    Manual labor is common on northeastern plantations, where most of production goes to sugar making. On the São Paulo state (the "modern" Brazil), especially Ribeirão Preto county, you're going to find modern agricultural practices.

    The smog from cane plantations is not from the ethanol making processes. It's from older sugar cane regions, ie. northeastern Brazil or NW Rio de Janeiro, where the can is burn before being harvested. This is, yes, a *big* producer of particulates. It's not common anymore in the more modern regions and is being phased out in Rio de Janeiro. It will probably last forever in the northeast if not made illegal, since they never cared about productivity and good practices, anyway.

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  10. Re:Hm... by tylernt · · Score: 3, Informative

    Which is about 5% more expensive (and correspondingly about 5% more energy dense)
    But diesel engines are well over 5% more fuel efficient, so you still come out ahead.
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