Leaked RIAA Training Video

An anonymous reader writes "Gizmodo has a clip of that RIAA training video produced with the NDAA for US prosecutors that was leaked to torrent sites a few days ago. It argues they should pursue piracy cases because it leads to bigger and badder wares, like handguns, drugs, terrorist orgs, and hardcore repeat offender criminals. It's kind of sad how far they're stretching to bring law enforcement into the matter."

Comments

While it may be true

[joeflies]

that people involved in piracy of US copyright overseas may be involved in organized crime, it doesn't seem to match the profile of the people they are suing. If they want to fight organized crime, terrorists, etc, then shouldn't years of effort resulted in at least one lawsuit against a terrorist?

And here I thought...

[hedgemage]

That music downloads only led to communism.
http://www.modernhumorist.com/mh/0004/propaganda/mp3.cfm

You know what?

[The Ultimate Fartkno]

I'm in the entertainment industry. I'm one of those corporate media whores who "hasn't come up with an original story in decades" and "keeps shoveling sellout pop shit down (your) throats" and "wouldn't know real talent if it walked up and kicked (me) in the balls." I'm part of the complex, epic machinery that creates the media that all of you "share" because it's all shit and worthless and you wouldn't bother downloading it if you weren't "sticking it to teh mang" and at the end of the day my rent and car payment and grocery store bills all depend on selling the stuff that you all pretend to loathe while you're copying it at terabytes per day.

And, sadly, all that being said I'd still rather have you guys steal all my work in "protest" than have the RIAA represent me and blame the Pirate Bay for 9/11, herpes, Ashlee Simpson's "career," and the fucking Kennedy assassination.

Seriously. I hate those assholes.

I still have rent to pay, though, so go buy a fucking CD you torrented or something, okay?

Re:gateway crime misinformation

[DracusMage]

'Cause you start out stealing songs and then you're robbing liquor stores
And sellin' crack and runnin' over school kids with your car

I never thought that a Weird Al song would actually be a part of the RIAA's groundwork for getting the government to do their bidding. But if the RIAA says that downloading songs is going to lead to running guns and drugs, then we should take this a step further.

In order to better "think of the children" we should immediately disband the RIAA and all of the record companies. I mean, if stealing songs leads to drugs being sold to children, or guns being fired at people, we should do the "right thing" and keep anyone from stealing music. Since they can't do this the way they are going at it, then obviously we should stop the music piracy by stopping the music.

Re:gateway crime misinformation

[IdleTime]

USA should follow Norways example on how to deal with RIAA, MPAA and other such extortion outfits.
http://torrentfreak.com/norwegian-police-deal-massive-blow-to-mpaa-lawyer-080220/

"Like many lawyers in the anti-piracy arena, Tøndel tries to blur civil and criminal law to obtain leverage. The police are clear - their priority is investigating real crimes, such as murder and robbery and sadly for him, file-sharing does not fall into those categories. Tøndel must now make his claims against alleged pirates in a civil court.

Following this major setback, Tøndel wrote to the Department of Justice and demanded a meeting with them. Unfortunately for Tøndel, the response wasn't what he'd been hoping for -the Department of Justice completely refused him a meeting- leaving him to start suing IP addresses, which he's not allowed to do. Ouch."

I say this with the utmost respect

[Smordnys s'regrepsA]

Most of us WANT you to lose your job. Nothing against you personally. A lot of us know how you feel, stuck in a dieing job with bosses who don't understand what is happening with/to the world.

I don't hate your musicians, I just hate the fact that some spoiled brat can make twice as much as me with half the effort and no college degree. I hate that those brats are being taken advantage of by overgrown bullies that make more money than I can, with low level degrees from classes whose main requirements to graduate are Show Up, and Bullshit Convincingly. I hate that there are sound technicians who took years out of their lives to learn how to use complex machines to make music sound better, when I can do the same damn thing with a $500 microphone, $1000 computer, and free/second-hand software that requires a week of spare time to master ($500 mic optional, I've heard some damn good professional-quality music come from a $25 mic).


Lucky for you for as bad as your industry's future looks, it will take quite a while to crash and burn. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Re:That solves everything!

[Anonymous Coward]

Well it's obvious you haven't got a fucking clue what you're talking about because the video is NOT talking about downloads, it's talking about ACTUAL piracy. That is, counterfeiting. Copying something and then selling it for a profit. And you know what? I'm dead set against that. I support the police and the MPAA/RIAA in their crusade to stamp out counterfeiting, because that really DOES harm the producer as well as the consumer. I only wish they'd spend half the effort stamping that out as they have trying to convince people that copying DVDs and CDs is wrong.

Re:gateway crime misinformation

[timmarhy]

"If it's commercially feasible, the free market should spit out a music label that allows more flexible licensing"

Oh please not this fucking argument again. IT'S NOT A FREE MARKET, RIAA are a cartel which buys off radio stations and setups up crappy tv shows.

your argument is fine if the consumer was actually given a real choice.

Re:Sweden's neutral!

[DataBroker]

Sweden was able to stay out of the first world war and keep an "armed neutrality" during the second world war.

I went to Denmark, and was told all about Sweden's "armed neutrality". I was told that the only reason that Sweden was allowed to remain neutral was because it succumbed to Germany's will. It essentially agreed to work full-time supplying war materials (iron ore) if Germany agreed not to destroy it. For more, check out this link.

Minor disclaimer: I'm relaying info a Dane gave me on the Swedes. Don't kill the messenger. Personally, I love all things Swedish and offer the traditional salute; bork-bork-bork!!

Re:Sweden's neutral!

[Ox0065]

so...

compulsory military service (or alternatively community service) exists in Sweden. (^-^) Didn't you know?

...also, as I understood it, Sweden & Finland were instrumental in disabling Germany's hard water (read nuclear bomb) plant for long enough for the USA to steal all the technology / scientists they needed to whip up a couple first. 12 Scandinavian commandos bombed a factory guarded by 500 SS soldiers in the middle of German occupied Norway TWICE with no casualties. They went to ground in the countryside after the first attack. There had been an earlier British attempt of which there were no survivors.

http://www.espionageinfo.com/Gu-In/Heavy-Water-Technology.html