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Programmers At Work, 22 Years Later

Firebones writes "In 1986, the book Programmers at Work presented interviews with 19 programmers and software designers from the early days of personal computing including Charles Simonyi, Andy Hertzfeld, Ray Ozzie, Bill Gates, and Pac Man programmer Toru Iwatani. Leonard Richardson tracked down these pioneers and has compiled a nice summary of where they are now, 22 years later."

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  1. wow by rucs_hack · · Score: 4, Funny

    killer site design....

    1. Re:wow by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      killer site design.... Yes, crummy.com certainly is crummy. But you must admit that it is still up after going live on the front page of Slashdot. Can your image laden, flash driven, AJAX-ified, web 2.0 site claim that?

      It's also licensed under the creative commons and has not one ad. Can your site say that?

      Sometimes, a bulleted list of black text on a white background is a godsend to these old eyes and more than gets the jobs done.
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      My work here is dung.
    2. Re:wow by nomadic · · Score: 4, Funny

      My favorite part is the use of the word "weblog." The whole thing has a very appropriate reminiscent theme.

      At least they didn't refer to "difference engines."

    3. Re:wow by ipb · · Score: 5, Insightful

      * text is too wide, 66 characters is said to be the ideal. At my resolution, I got lines with >150 chars, That's not a bug, that's a feature.
      I absolutely loathe sites that don't expand to match the width of my browser.
      On a 1920x1200 screen any site that only lets me see 66 characters will earn my wrath forever.
  2. Sounds like Fire in the Valley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you like reading about the earlier days of personal computing, I'd also recommend Fire in the Valley by Freiburger and Swine which has a ton of cool anecdotes and dramatic confrontations.

  3. Inaccuracy - Gates is no longer richest by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Informative

    Bill Gates. Then: founder of Microsoft, popularizer of the word "super". Now: richest guy in the world. After a stint in the 90s as pure evil, semi-retired to focus on philanthropic work.
    Not even second-richest any more .. http://www.stockmarketsview.com/mukesh-ambani-becomes-worlds-richest-man/22/, http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/03/news/international/carlosslim.fortune/index.htm

    A billion ain't what it used to be ...

  4. Re:Who is that? by Finallyjoined!!! · · Score: 4, Funny

    He certainly isn't a programmer, unless that now means exploiter or programmers :-)

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    If I had an Ass, I'd call it Fanny Bottom, then I could slap my Ass; Fanny Bottom, on the Arse.
  5. Informative by peipas · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've always wondered whatever happened to Bill Gates.

  6. Exploiter "of" - sorry.... by Finallyjoined!!! · · Score: 5, Funny

    Damn microsoft keyboard....

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    If I had an Ass, I'd call it Fanny Bottom, then I could slap my Ass; Fanny Bottom, on the Arse.
  7. very good book by kisrael · · Score: 4, Funny

    This was a very good book. Probably my favorite bit was hearing the history of Pac-Man
    Best Quote:
    "I thought that one of the things women like to do is eat. So I started working on a game concept based on eating."
    --Toru Iwatari, inventor of Pac-Man

    Hearing about the SwyftCard idea was cool too.

    Some of the best things were the artifacts, from in house materials to source code to random sketches and napkin plans:
    I made some banners for The Gamers Quarter with the early sketches of Pac-Man:
    http://kisrael.com/viewblog.cgi?date=2007.11.13

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    SO YOU'RE GOING TO DIE: The Comic for Dealing with Death
  8. Re:Peter Norton by sconeu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I heard he still takes the time to get his picture taken for Symantec products that have the Norton name on them. They still pay him royalties over using his name,

    Can he sue Symantec for defamation of character? The real Norton Utilities were lean, mean, useful, and essential. The current Norton-branded crap from Symantec is slow, bloated, is DRM-laden, and doesn't play well with either itself or with others. Kind of like the Anti-Norton Utilities.

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    General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
  9. Missing: Bill Budge, Pinball Construction Set by RobertB-DC · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a teenager in the early '80s, I wasn't terribly aware of the people who were actually getting paid to do what I and my friends were figuring out how to do on the TRS-80 and Apple ][. But one name that percolated up was Bill Budge, the programmer behind the wildly popular Pinball Construction Set. It was probably the closest thing you could get to The Sims on a 6502.

    Oddly enough, I don't think I ever played it myself. Or rather, I never built anything -- I probably played some of my friends' creations. His name stuck in my mind thanks to a list in some computer magazine about "Opcodes we'd like to see". (That's an assembler term, for you High-Level Language junkies.) The only one I still remember was "PBB -- Program like Bill Budge".

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    Stressed? Me? Of course not. Stress is what a rubber band feels before it breaks, silly.
  10. Horrible, Isn't It? by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dude, you're like three years out of college at best. I know, I know, don't rub it in. Put me in the ground already, right? I feel like my bones are half dust, I'm long in the tooth, I'm on my last leg, almost completely worthless, put me out to pasture, stick a fork in me!

    Three years! In (Moore's) computer years that's like 18 generations, prior to the great depression of dotcoms or even the Civil (browser) War.

    It's amazing that some employer is kind enough to provide this old geriatric coder a job. I try to stay out of the way of the new blood and stave off death for a few more years but my old concepts of "EJBs" and "Java Server Faces" is just embarrassing to them.

    A new recruit came in the other day, I told him not to feel bad and we'd make him 1337 soon enough. He just chuckled and patted me on the head and said, "There there, old timer, we'll get you some streaming Matlock off the server while we clean up your mess."

    I miss my friends that have already moved on from this life to the next, those that are managers already. I have to remind myself that some birds aren't meant to be caged. Their feathers are just too bright. And when they fly away, the part of you that knows it was a sin to lock them up DOES rejoice. Still, the place you live in is that much more drab and empty that they're gone. I guess I just miss my friends.

    So please, when you see an ancient dinosaur like me lumbering around trying to figure out what the f*ck ruby is and why I have to put it on rails and then wonder how that was any different than what I used to be doing, please be kind. Have patience, my mind isn't as nimble as it once was. Three years of Jack Daniels and coding ravages a man and leaves him a dusty shell.

    Just promise me you'll never forget me when I'm put in the basement next to a pile of boxes next month. Please come visit, please!
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    My work here is dung.
  11. Do Not Go Gentle Into That Cold Dark Server Room by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have some C to write. While we may have had our differences in the past, what with my resource greedy garbage collector and your platform specific releases, it is becoming increasingly clear to me that one day you and I might end up in the same place--management.

    So while we may not be able to reconcile our differences now, I realize that at the end of the day we might find ourselves in the same spot of alienation and place of decay.

    In a different reality, I might have called you friend ...
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    My work here is dung.
  12. Re:Peter Norton by alphafoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was on a panel with Peter at a conference a few weeks ago. He still looks just like he did on the box covers in the 80s. Our talk was on The Future of Software and Technology or Something Like That, and of the 8 people on the panel, I found Peter's remarks to be the most eccentric and Sci Fi. He was talking about head's up displays in our eyeglasses and things of that nature.

    After we all had our say, the moderator asked if anyone of us had anything to add. The mod looked at Peter, at which point Peter, who was sitting with his arms crossed looking either bored or disgusted (I couldn't tell), stated, "Yes, I have something to say. I am out of here. See ya." So he got up and left.

    Most of the audience did not come from tech backgrounds, so I don't think even 10% of them had any idea who he was, or how much of a name he had in the olden days.