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Library of Congress's $3M Deal With Microsoft
Cory Doctorow sounds the alarm over a Library of Congress deal with Microsoft that will have collections locked up in Silverlight. I'll double the Microsoft deal and offer them $6M in perl scripts and an infinite value of free OS software if they let me (or Google or any other honest company) publish their collections in free formats. "This deal involves the donation of 'technology, services and funding' (e.g., mostly not money) with a purported value of $3M from Microsoft to the Library of Congress. The Library, in turn, agrees to put kiosks running Vista in the library and to use Microsoft Silverlight to 'help power the library's new Web site, www.myloc.gov.'"
Yes they are stupid about it, it IS a lose lose situation, anyone want to email the Library of Congress? Time for some registered voters to get involved instead of arguing on slashdot. http://www.loc.gov/help/contact-general.html That;s the contaxct info, I'm not sure which of those categories it falls under, but someone should write out an email and have a load of people send it in. Congress don't listen to common sense, they DO listen to voters.
The concern is over the use of Silverlight for the website. Silverlight as of yet does not have a end-user ready version for several operating systems, including free ones such as Linux. There is however a Moonlight project by the Mono guys to bring Silverlight to those operating systems.
Silverlight is planned for Linux: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070507-mono-developers-to-bring-silverlight-to-linux.html
The important thing is not the kiosks, but if they also are going to run Silverlight on the publicly accessible parts of their services. In that case they are limiting the access to their records to those that are able to run Silverlight.
If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
Its not a trade off, TFA states that the plan is to use both: silverlight (for their website) and vista locally for their kiosks.
Seems like you asked and answered the crucial question: Really what's one proprietary format over another, granted Silverlight seems to be Windows only.
Or they could do it with (amongst others and just as big names I know): Google, Redhat, Novell, Canonical and dozens of other companies who are FOSS and provide paying customers with support.
It isn't just proprietary, closed-source companies who offer support.
The LoC also gives away a lot of money, in the form of grants, for fellowships & university programs. So they could cut some of that, but someone else will feel the pain.
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http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/development_tools/silverlight.html
It's just another piece of software that will need to be installed to access information. They haven't excluded anyone that I am aware of, unless you're still using a Commodore VIC-20.
I hope all the linux users here like using Novell's distro, here's some evidence that Silverlight is entirely patent encumbered That's Miguel and Novell speaking.
Tell him what you think!
Such as found on the front page, http://www.loc.gov/ (homepage/swf/main.swf)
I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask where they're goin' and hook up with 'em later.
To Whom It May Concern:
In my opinion, it is a bad idea to restrict access to some of this nation's most prized possessions by requiring a non-standardized, non-open software package in order to access valuable information both in an online format and to visitors at the Library in Washington D.C.
Microsoft's Silverlight is an unproven and immature new technology. While Microsoft believes that the software will become very valuable, it does so by restricting access to operating systems and web browsers that only Microsoft deems worthy of using this new technology. With respect to Microsoft's anti-trust history, it would behoove the Library of Congress to steer clear of this technology. Especially considering several states fear Silverlight may be a source of future anti-trust violations.
I would strongly urge you to reconsider implementing Microsoft's Silverlight in favor of an open and freely available technology such as AJAX, SVG, and H.264. By using open and free standards and technology, you will be: 1. Allowing open access to all citizens, not just those deemed worthy by Microsoft. 2. Guaranteeing open access to all citizens for the foreseeable future, without restrictions imposed by Microsoft as upgrading becomes a necessity. 3. Guaranteeing open access to all citizens for the foreseeable future, should Microsoft demand a fee for access to its technology. 4. Allowing open access to all citizens without requiring them to bow to Microsoft's restrictive licensing agreement.
Thank you,
(your name here)
Cataloging and Acquisitions I would think...
http://www.loc.gov/aba/contact/
All the way at the bottom.
I'm using this one, someone please post if there's a more appropriate place.
Web Site Comments looks like the appropriate place to tell them what you think of non free information and non free formats.
The LOC should not host works that can't be exactly reproduced for non commercial purposes. Rights holders who disagree with that can host content on their own dime and pay for their own advertising. At the very least, the copyright status of works on the LOC site should be unambiguous. Serving them that content with restrictions is a waste of everyone's time and money. Sooner or later, all of the work will have to be redone because non free formats are always flash in the pan. Non free content will violate everyone's rights and pocketbook in the mean time. There's no amount of equipment, software or money that M$ can come up with overcome the cost of giving them control of our national library. Our heritage and freedom is worth more than the $20 billion in cash they have.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
I sent it using form on a href='http://www.loc.gov/aba/contact/general_form.php'>this page
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Unfortunately, M$ is already well on the way to locking down content in libraries...check out this mysterious new machine that recently appeared in our local library...'free' audiobooks for download. Which aren't free in any way, shape or form, of course. Microsoft windows DRM encumbered/infected/infested audio files, which librairies have been brainwashed into purchasing, for literally tens of thousands of dollars, and ignoring/publicizing truly free(dom) sites such as libravox.org
Check out this site for all the horrifying details of how librairies are selling out:
http://www.stratford.library.on.ca/downloadlibrary.html
The issue with Moonlight is that its patent encumbered, and the only vendor that Microsoft has a licensing agreement with is Novell. While they've indicated that they don't intend to sue users of Moonlight even if they don't use Novell Linux, they haven't entered into any soft of legally binding covenant and could go back on that decision at any time. Therefore, unless you use Novell Linux, you have nothing other than Microsoft's word protecting you from a patent infringement lawsuit if you use Moonlight.
We all know what to do, but we don't know how to get re-elected once we have done it
True, it's worth saying though that it won't be a default part of Debian/Ubuntu, Fedora/Redhat, etc. due to the patent policy.
Notice that one of the tags given by K. Dawson to this story is "googleisevil".
Since when do the editors tag stories? I was under the impression they only filtered tags from users (and even then, only subscribers got to tag publicly).
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It in fact IS an issue about Mac and Linux users.
Silverlight for Mac PowerPC is at version 1.0, with Intel Mac at 1.1. And Silverlight for Linux is vaporware. Either way, though, it's wrong to require a plugin to do things that don't need it. The few silverlight things I've seen (on a Windows box at work), most could have used plain old HTML + JPEGs -- the Silverlight requirement was flat-out gratuitous. A few had inline videos. And the fancies could have easily used flash -- flash is already ubiquotus, reinventing the wheel is ridiculous
For quite a while, actually. I remember somebody pointing out in their sig that CmdrTaco had tagged one of the stories he'd posted himself as "slownewsday". You can see kdawson and CmdrTaco's lists of posted tags from their profile pages (linked for your convenience), but be warned that those pages take forever to open.