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Creditor Objects To SCO's Plans

I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "It seems that SCO is never without a trick up its sleeve. In the new '$100 million' reorganization plan, $5 million of which is cash and $95 million credit, one of the creditors is protesting because SCO is hiding the Definitive Documents until there's no time to object. In their own words, 'The debtors are proposing to file the Disclosure Statement 33 days before the hearing, in compliance with the requirement that it be filed at least 25 days before the hearing (F. R. Bankr. P. 3017). However, it is clear that this Disclosure Statement will be inadequate for evaluating the Plan, because it will not include any of the Definitive Documents. The Debtors are proposing to file the Definitive Documents separately, and to do so a mere five business days before the hearing, which is zero days before objections are due.'"

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  1. When ... by McGiraf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... will SCO disapear? It's enough already.

  2. Surprise anyone? by KingKaneOfNod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hiding important information has always been one of SCO's favourite strategies, right? (e.g. "Linux infringes on our IP, but we can't tell you where, how, or why.").

  3. Tagged: by calebt3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    needawoodenstakethroughtheheart
    undead
    whywontyoujustdie

    1. Re:Tagged: by Daimanta · · Score: 4, Funny

      True, true.

      Has anobody tried any holy water?

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      Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power lost.
    2. Re:Tagged: by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power lost.???

      Speaking of tags. . .

      Holding knowledge of another's dark secrets is one of the foremost ways the game of politics is played.

      I remember knowing the daughter of a political figure who had taught her well; he took her out drinking often when she was only a young teen so that she could build up a high tolerance to alcohol. He taught her how to dig up secrets in her opponents, and he taught her how to corrupt her fellows so that they would have secrets to fear losing control of. He was grooming he for political life; in short, he taught her the ways of Fear.

      Early on when I met her, I told her that my way of living was to remain open about everything; there was no secret I would be too frightened to share, and in this way, there was no way I could be bound or controlled. I saw fear in her eyes when she looked at me then, and I didn't understand why until I got to know her better.

      I have seen more harm arise from secrets kept than I ever would have imagined possible. And I have seen the most ludicrous acts which would normally be sorely condemned by society, not only easily forgiven but benefited from by entire communities simply because the participants were never afraid to share their thoughts and actions openly.

      In this way, knowledge shared is power gained, and that is the only kind of power one really needs, because Good Guys don't play chess.

      Just some thoughts.


      -FL

  4. Yes, well... by djupedal · · Score: 5, Informative

    The press release stated that Stephen Norris Capital Partners was doing the deal, that it was a limited partnership, without specifying in which state, and it listed Norris as "managing partner" of SNCP:

            "We saw a tremendous investment opportunity in SCO and its vast range of products and services, including many new innovations ready or soon to be ready to be released into the marketplace," said Stephen Norris, managing partner for SCNP....

            About Stephen Norris Partners

            Stephen Norris & Co. Capital Partners, L.P. is a private equity investment partnership formed to (i) "co-invest" alongside well established and successful private equity and leveraged buyout firms, (ii) take advantage of the business experience and relationships of its Investment Committee, including Steve Norris' long-standing relationships and substantial private equity experience.

    While the press release says that SNCP is a partnership, the MOU says it's a deal between SCO and STEVE NORRIS CAPITAL PARTNERS, LLC and it defines SNCP as "Stephen Norris Capital Partners, LLC" and it further says it's a Delaware limited liability company ("Investment Team: Stephen Norris Capital Partners, LLC, a Delaware limited liability company ("SNCP").").

    1. Re:Yes, well... by n6kuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "We saw a tremendous investment opportunity in SCO and its vast range of products and services, including many new innovations ready or soon to be ready to be released into the marketplace,"

      I guess "products and services" means troll patents and lawsuits.
      I wonder what "new innovations" of these they are about to unleash?

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  5. SCO... by Archeopteryx · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

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  6. It's a flaw in the American judicial system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    SCO was able to spew its fud at will in America, no proof required. In Germany they got slapped down. The German courts said in effect: "If you can't prove what you're saying is true, you have to shut up."

    It is pathetic that SCO has been able to drag this farce out for so long.

  7. get two more creditors and press for chapter 7 by swschrad · · Score: 5, Interesting

    that's when it will end.

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    1. Re:get two more creditors and press for chapter 7 by Nikker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The company just exists to piss us off and spread FUD. If they didn't want the stigma of the company they would have started fresh just putting the money to another company hiring the same legal team and taking it from a slightly different point of attack. They're one step away from being a new company anyway, Darl is being let go there's just going to be another one. If it wasn't for them getting so much time in people's web browsers no one would even know they existed. So in short there are people with enough money involved to make the SCO company keep to its purpose, they aren't going to win anything since the OSS community is too fluid to necessarily point out a single block of code to bring down the whole "framework".

      If anything now would be the time to advocate the Linux idea / OS more than ever. Computer kids out there get called all the time to fix friends and families computers, you should offer a special $20 install that would involve you installing a distro on their computer. The price is variable of course but distro's could work with the installers to make the going rate tempting enough for anyone to attempt to offer it at the price. People would look at it as quick cash, distributions would see that the easier it is for someone to install and educate the end user the more people will install their distribution for a price. Eventually as people grow more aware of the OS they will search out to install it themselves, at this point the OS will be so easy to install and run it will catch like wild fire.

      Now the ones who were installing the OS move up to support / customization. What ever the price charged to do an install will be used as a type of yard stick of value. Eventually with computer power increasing and OS developers cooperation the time to install a running OS will take less time but as long as the price remains set and the operation is exact and efficient you will be making that $20-$40 in under 10 minutes. From there you can use that as a reference to charge for time in support and customization. As long as the initial price does not waver much people will build trust in the concept and the best will be in demand. This is the most diverse and distributed industry that will ever be.

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  8. Here is the real story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here is the real story:

    Legitimate businesses are dying for venture capital. And here it is, being wasted.

    1. Re:Here is the real story by HangingChad · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Legitimate businesses are dying for venture capital. And here it is, being wasted.

      And anyone with two neurons left to rub together to make a spark would know that. You'd think anyone investing 100 million dollars would be a little more careful about where their money's going, wouldn't you? But they're not really investing a 100 million, they're investing 5 million.

      So someone is willing to put up five mil to SCO in exchange for nothing. That same someone thinks that five million is not being wasted. Since they're getting nothing from SCO, what are they getting? Not that this bizarro world plan has any chance getting past the trustee, but where do they keep finding collaborators to go along with this fraud?

      Another line of questioning might ask who could get someone do go along with flushing 100 million, or even five million down the toilet? That's a shorter list. Because if SCO goes begging for dollars, they'd get laughed out of the room. So it's not SCO. That would leave Microsoft. They have lots of money. People with money usually have friends with money. But what's Microsoft getting at this point? Nothing. This case exhausted its value to them years ago. Vista is a giant, steaming turd and everyone knows it. Linux and Apple are feasting on their entrails and the EU is hitting them with billions in fines.

      So, what's the five million for?

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  9. Re:News? by Iphtashu+Fitz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's still news because the LP offering to buy them is doing so in order to continue the linux litigation that got SCO into this current situation. No surprise, there's a lot of speculation that Microsoft is somehow behind the sudden desire of this LP to acquire SCO and continue the litigation since it helps to continue a FUD campaign that Microsoft would love to see continue.

  10. Fraud by JSBiff · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know, I know, don't feed the trolls. . . but he's so cuuuuuutte.

    Judge Kimball already found that there was never any transfer of copyright. SCO's copyright registration was fraudulent (well, I suppose you could make the argument that it isn't fraud if they really *believed* they owned the copyright, but nevertheless, it's still invalid). It's already been decided that SCO does not own Unix copyrights or trademarks (the trademark issue was not decided in court, I do not believe, but by the US Patent and Trademark Office, I believe, which said that Unix was already a trademark owned by the Open Group [which anyone could have told SCO, but they wouldn't listen, of course]).

    Basically, SCO owns no part of Unix.

    There's also the *small* problem that they've never actually demonstrated any infringement by Linux, even if they *did* own Unix. Which they don't.

    This whole Bankruptcy charade, as far as I can tell, has mostly been about delaying the inevitable, so that SCO's execs and board of director could continue to get salaries and outrageous bonuses for as long as possible, bleeding the company dry and leaving a worthless, dessicated carcass for Novell, IBM, Red Hat, and Autozone to fight over.

  11. Settle it more efficiently! by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think all this court-related mumbo-jumbo should be dropped in favor of a more efficient way to settle things. Darl and Linus should meet in a forest, with witnesses from both sides. They should stand back-to-back, walk ten paces, turn around, and shoot. Darl should be given a water gun. Linus should be given a BFG-9000.

  12. Not a creditor by elronxenu · · Score: 4, Informative
    Actually it's Al Petrofsky's filing, and he's a shareholder (and not to my knowledge a creditor).

  13. Re:Never by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 4, Funny

    The fee was not $500. The fee was $699, you cock smoking tea bagger.

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  14. Re:Never by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Funny
    I'm sorry to have to feed the troll,but if there is one thing worse than a troll,it's a bad troll.They are worse than bad mimes,IMHO.If you are going to do the SCO troll,then at least post it correctly


    PAY YOUR $699 LICENSE FEE, YOU COCK-SMOKING TEABAGGERS! Is I believe the correct syntax for the troll you are attempting.Please,in the future,learn how to troll correctly or go to digg.We here on slashdot have high standards when it comes to our trolls,and many of our trolls go on to exciting careers in such fields as Microsoft zealotry and Comcast management.So in the future please uphold the high standards set before you by distinguished alumni like the GNAA and the guy that makes ASCII goatsx drawings.Thank you for your time.

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  15. Give Mr D what he is good at... by hAckz0r · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just let him use the same old foot gun. We all know he just can't miss with that piece of iron.

  16. Re:News? by PinkyGigglebrain · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Another poster pointed out awhile back that another reason for this buy out of SCO is to keep its internal records from becoming public.

    The whole thing is just a ploy to shield all those internal emails and documents that would reveal just who was really behind it all, we all know that M$ is in on it but who else could there be? What other companies or business interests have benefited from the FUD that SCO has generated?

    By buying SCO and taking it back to a privatively held company it could be quietly dismantled and the evidence of collusion and conspiracy buried permanently.

  17. Wow, Weird Writeup. by bytesex · · Score: 4, Funny

    In Other News, Capitalizers all around the World rejoice when the Definitive Documents will not be Heard of, or Seen, before the Disclose Statement has been passed before the Council of the Upper Case. Shift key Users all around the Planet will express their Utmost Pleasure at the Revealing of the Plan. Dr Evil, in the mean time, who is an Ardent Caps Lock Aficionado, will make all Debtors Disappear. It's That Easy.

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